best nu-andre 3000 verse

this feels cringe in concept, but i still need to listen lol

It’s also very embarrassing in execution

I like it. But I probably listen to more New Age/Ambient than most Americans.

The real question is what is the tour gonna be like?

Let's not get it twisted, the issue isn't that it's a new age/ambient record, and theoretically not a bad one by many measures, it's that it's a flute record by a man who, god bless him dearly, cannot play the flute

this totally totally rules, it sounds like it would be in that Chee Shimizu “obscure sound” book

100%. if someone had told me this was a lost Steve Roach, Jorge Reyes, Suso Saiz / Suspended Memories album or similar i'd totally believe them, especially on 03 That Night in Hawaii When I Turned Into a Panther and Started Making These Low Register Purring Tones That I Couldn’t Control ... Sh¥t Was Wild.

i totally disagree

I think it’s really great that someone as high-profile as Andre 3000 could generate this much interest in an album of drills for amateur flautists

i like it

the music itself is fine but it's ill-served not so much by A's incompetence, which doesn't necessarily have to be an obstacle, but by his lack of any ideas or direction

i think it's kind of a discredit to Shimizu's book to presume that the music is only there because it's rare, when in fact none of it is as lousy as this

i still find this to be okay though, largely due to what everybody else in the band is bringing

lol DJP

he should've released it as a Music Minus One record

i think it's kind of a discredit to Shimizu's book to presume that the music is only there because it's rare,

lots of music in the book is not rare at all.

i don't thimk this music requires any direction either.

obscure/unheralded/"lost"/unknown to many

lol i'm truly glad some people are digging it though. there's just a lot of solemnity to the music and i can't help at certain parts envisioning him taking a deep breath, closing his eyes and leaning in meaningfully as the cymbals swell and ... *botched rudimentary flute exercise*

maybe that makes it good actually

i just got to the end. will i listen again? i may well do. would i consider buying the 3 x lp? unlikely.

Lizzo can play circles around Andre, but I would rather listen to this by an exponential degree

imagine listening to this for the quality of the flute playing

Thelonius Monk said that the Digital Wind Instrument ain’t got no wrong notes

I didn’t mean it sounded like a mysterious “lost” album. I meant it sounded like an album that would have appeared in that Chee Shimizu book, ie it fits into that sonic framework of woodwinds and percussion sparseness and stuff

Hope that the Michael Stipe rap album encourages as much conversation

It's odd to me that the discourse around the new drum-less version of RAM is all "why does this need to exist" while some of the same people with decent taste and presumably large collections of ambient and jazz music are carrying water for a terribly pedestrian vanity project that's three times as long

I mean, good on him for following his muse, and I do believe he's sincere, but no one will convince me that a kid who owns a Laaraji album and SAW2 couldn't have whipped this together on Logic Pro in a single afternoon

maybe that makes it good actually

― budo jeru, Friday, November 17, 2023 3:35 PM

see now you've got me imagining the all-andre band from the hey ya video all doing this in unison, and yes: that 100% makes it good.

i can't help at certain parts envisioning him taking a deep breath, closing his eyes and leaning in meaningfully as the cymbals swell and ... *botched rudimentary flute exercise*

this had me laughing

agree that it's not competent enough to be an ambient jazz album and as a private press new age album it lacks direction, sense of purpose, idiosyncratic ideas

ultimately it's a bit boring

but will enjoy hearing it in the wild if it's picked up on coffee shop playlists

Feel like the track titles are undermining it for me. I've been getting into some tracks and then I look over at the names and feel cheated.

I like this, but to add to a series of FB posts by former ILXor micci0, I feel uncomfortable checking out a flute album by a star/diva when I don't normally check out flute albums.

It’s kind of like children’s books written by celebrities, yeah.

I listened to the first track last night and thought it was kind of nice. It wouldn’t bother me as background music. But not much too it, and for sure the flute playing does not distinguish itself.

idk if i can really listen to this album around the baggage but i do really enjoy some of it, particularly the parts where dré's uh capabilities or lack thereof on the flute ultimately lend these pieces a meditative, hypnotic quality, like on "that night in hawaii" and "ghandhi, dalai lama..." if i'm being honest i sometimes don't even register his playing as flute sounds and instead it's like someone dicking around on a modular synth or something and that's the spirit in which i'm enjoying it

also the piano on "ghandi, dalai lama..." is so beautiful

The band is great yah but the centerpiece of the thing is uncompelling - a rich guy that is bad at a thing hired a really talented band to try to make him sound good. Like a rich hippie guy that just got a didgeridoo and thinks he's good at it but bro it takes years to master that thing.

The second track title is so cringy. For a guy who’s even older than I am, he seems to have a pretty juvenile sensibility.

the incubus dude played the didgeridoo onstage when i saw them open for mr bungle :(

I saw that tour

I heard an interview with Andre 3000 on the radio just now, and it was so serious I couldn't take it seriously. "So there I was, taking a breathing class with Kassia, a world-class surfer, and I heard the most beautiful sound. That is when I got my first flute. Now I have 30, 40 flutes, a lot of them from my flute-maker Guillermo. I got in the habit, when I was in the back of an Uber, of playing along with whatever music was on the radio ... "

Went out on a long walk today listening to this and Don Cherry's - Organic Music Society. i enjoyed it again but did end up skipping it about two thirds in. i think it might have worked better if he had had a good editor on board. Apples and oranges I know (despite both being flute-y), but Organic Music Society did hit the spot way more.

The band is great yah but the centerpiece of the thing is uncompelling - a rich guy that is bad at a thing hired a really talented band to try to make him sound good. Like a rich hippie guy that just got a didgeridoo and thinks he's good at it but bro it takes years to master that thing.

He should have had someone else play flute and just slapped his name on the cover, a la the VU and Nico.

well this is a whole load of whatever

all those people who heard "miley tibetan bowlzzz" and thought "this is good but I wish it was 90 minutes long" will be very happy with this

everyone else should listen to that don cherry album though

i paired this with rain in england personally, which led me to discover lil b released a jazz fusion album last year

sh1t sandwich

lol i was going to ask how this compared to the lil b midi jazz album.

What are comparable vanity projects? Sting’s lute album?

andrew wk solo piano record

Pat Boone's metal album

Billy Joel - Actually I’m a Composer Not a Rock Star, Listen to my Neo-classical Bullshit

While I flip pianos

You know the primary difference here and “I AM SERIOUS COMPOSER” stuff is that André is teaming with a bunch of artists who do cassette tape releases to make improvisation-based music, all of which should ideally allow for a little bit of naïveté, DIY scrappiness and ephemerality.

Carlos Niño put out a really good record with South African pianist Thandi Ntuli this week, too, ftr.

https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/rainbow-revisited

the issue isn't that it's a new age/ambient record, and theoretically not a bad one by many measures, it's that it's a flute record by a man who, god bless him dearly, cannot play the flute

Reminds me of the Jazz Daredevil album:

Well, I Should Have... (subtitled Learned How To Play Piano) is an experimental jazz[1] album by American comedy actor and jazz daredevil H. Jon Benjamin. It was released on November 27, 2015, on the Sub Pop label.[2] The album was intentionally recorded to sound bad, since, as the album's title indicates, Benjamin does not know how to play piano, but still does so on the album,[3] and Benjamin has never liked jazz very much.[4]

The album also features actual jazz musicians such as Scott Kreitzer (saxophone), David Finck (bass), and Jonathan Peretz (drums).[5]

The funniest thing about that record was the bewildered reactions of the "actual jazz musicians" in interviews.

update i really really like the lil b midi jazz album

3k would've made a great lil b type record back in '09