Is the Beatles 1962-66 (the 'red' alb) the only record of theirs that you need?

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This might be a good time to remind people of the Prof Stoned versions of tracks by the Beatles and others. Here's the Prof Stoned She Loves You, which sounds a lot better to my ears. Available a bonus track on the With the Beatles job:

https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20231110NZfYNor6

Alba, Friday, 10 November 2023 12:28 (two years ago)

Stereo too, I should have added

Alba, Friday, 10 November 2023 12:32 (two years ago)

What’s actually gone wrong technically with She Loves You then?

it's a MAL assisted demix from mono; I haven't listened to this one yet but will later. I thought the Love Me Do demix sounded great. But I generally prefer the monos of those early records.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 10 November 2023 14:31 (two years ago)

The new mixes do sound snappy

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 10 November 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

Looking forward to seeing how all this sounds through speakers but on my earbuds Hey Bulldog might be my favourite new mix. I'll still take the mono Revolution over the new one.

Alba, Friday, 10 November 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

Magical Mystery Tour and Old Brown Shoe sound like the best remixes on the blue album to my ears.

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:15 (two years ago)

Agreed. You Really Got a Hold On Me was a highlight for me.

Forget who’s mainly singing the harmony vocal on this, is it George or John with himself?

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:17 (two years ago)

Guitar stabs on “Can’t Find Me Love” pretty shockingly harsh

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:18 (two years ago)

there's some guitar stuff missing from Old Brown Shoe which is kind of weird but the bass sounds great.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:21 (two years ago)

_Agreed. You Really Got a Hold On Me was a highlight for me._

Forget who’s mainly singing the harmony vocal on this, is it George or John with himself?

Guess I can check with that one Italian Luthier guy on YouTube.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

Who confirms that it’s George.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 November 2023 17:24 (two years ago)

prob only going to listen to the red album but it sounds dope so far

ivy., Friday, 10 November 2023 17:29 (two years ago)

Love how huge If I Needed Someone sounds.

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 10 November 2023 18:11 (two years ago)

Lots of knowledgeable types saying Fool On The Hill is a fave.

piscesx, Friday, 10 November 2023 18:32 (two years ago)

yeah I loved the sick sub bass during the flute solo, really brings the song into the 21st century.

brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

Some of the new mixes sound great but I'm decidedly not a fan of the "unburied" rhythm guitar on "Magical Mystery Tour". Takes me out of the psychedelic moment, maaaan.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 November 2023 19:50 (two years ago)

And to Alba's comment/link above the Prof. Stoned mixes are often glorious. His "Forever Changes" mix is my go-to.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 November 2023 19:51 (two years ago)

Fair

This is how the middle bit of #NowAndThen should go. In my humble opinion. pic.twitter.com/jj3h78DG3k

— Duncan Wisbey (@hubabakanda) November 10, 2023

Alba, Friday, 10 November 2023 22:15 (two years ago)

lol

a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2023 22:17 (two years ago)

this is really fun to click around in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSgFPUlhc2o

frogbs, Friday, 10 November 2023 22:21 (two years ago)

I mean, look I’m crazy I would totally listen to that whole thing with pleasure

brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:58 (two years ago)

would/am

brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2023 23:58 (two years ago)

The bass/drum parts are always great on Beatle records. I've plowed through their albums focusing on just that element.

(I've also done that just focusing on George, or just on the harmonies - that's one thing I love about them, each part is so well done, and in a way it has to be when you're building a record from parts that only four people can play on stage - like each person becomes that much more important so they need to step up.)

birdistheword, Saturday, 11 November 2023 00:20 (two years ago)

Also nice touch showing only who's playing in the graphic as well

birdistheword, Saturday, 11 November 2023 00:21 (two years ago)

Lol at that Twitter post. I had a proper (Meehhh-owwww) laugh with that :))

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 11 November 2023 03:19 (two years ago)

yeah, that was brilliant

budo jeru, Saturday, 11 November 2023 03:24 (two years ago)

really brings out how funky they could be

frogbs, Saturday, 11 November 2023 04:02 (two years ago)

i think "she loves you" and "love me do" are the worst of the new mixes because everything except the final mono master was lost for those recordings, while the other tracks at least had a bit more to work with

The de-mixing software allows them to break down all the component parts pretty impressively – Giles Martin shows how they did it with the Taxman (stereo mix) on YT. So I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.

If I had to guess, the bigger issue is the reverb that was initially put on John and Paul’s vocals. That is not something you can really “de-mix” per se. As a result, it has a pretty “roomy” sound that was probably less obvious when everything was squished to mono- or even duophonic.

All that said, I don’t hate these. Per the piece by Adam Hickey, I just want to make sure that we live in a world where all of those various versions are available and none become Lucas Special Edition’d.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 11 November 2023 16:18 (two years ago)

loving the drum-n-bass Rubber Soul. it's so chill! as i get older, paying attention to Paul's bass parts has become one of my favorite Beatle listening activities. i think of it mainly in terms of the post-acid period, but even here he's doing a lot of interesting stuff, always a little more than you might think is there. i think it adds a lot to the energy of the songs, subconsciously.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 November 2023 16:34 (two years ago)

This is kinda mad but there is a spudload of Beatles Sessions boots on Archive.org right now, which can be downloaded.

https://archive.org/details/beatles_sessions_201912_2

MaresNest, Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:07 (two years ago)

very mad, will download

brimstead, Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:17 (two years ago)

I hope these are still up next week when I’m back with access to a desktop computer.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:20 (two years ago)

is there any way to download that all together rather than file by file?

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:36 (two years ago)

Yes indeed

MaresNest, Saturday, 11 November 2023 19:42 (two years ago)

When you go to the download options window, when you click on either Flac or MP3 there's a down-pointing arrow icon to the right at the top of the list that says 1593 items

MaresNest, Saturday, 11 November 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

Just heard the “new” part in IAtW.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:19 (two years ago)

And now the distracting “unburied” MMT guitar that was recently mentioned. It’s like a YouTube play-along.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:28 (two years ago)

This “Lady Madonna” seems to be a step in the right direction though.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

I guess it’s from 2015 though.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 November 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

i can't really hear that MMT guitar but my hearing in my right ear is compromised and I haven't listened to it in airpods yet

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

I like the mix of Ballad of John and Yoko, for sure. and I've come around on the Walrus mix but I don't think it's better than the Love mix or even the original mixes. I actually first heard that song on 45 with the extra measures in the middle of it and to this day every other version sounds weird to me.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 22:39 (two years ago)

one thing I'll say about this...now and then slots in perfectly well after the long and winding road on this comp, certainly sounds like work by the same band.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:20 (two years ago)

would be cool if they sold all the stems for folks to do their own mixes, Todd Rundgren no world order style

brimstead, Saturday, 11 November 2023 23:36 (two years ago)

The de-mixing software allows them to break down all the component parts pretty impressively – Giles Martin shows how they did it with the Taxman (stereo mix) on YT. So I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.

If I had to guess, the bigger issue is the reverb that was initially put on John and Paul’s vocals. That is not something you can really “de-mix” per se.

the tech is very impressive but it's ultimately going to be more effective when more separation exists to begin with because then the software has to recreate less details. for revolver (and everything from with the beatles onward) they had the original four-track tapes to work with - usually a basic track of guitar/bass/drums, a vocal track, and then two tracks of overdubs, and so separating only guitar/bass/drums is still easier/more effective for the software than separating absolutely everything from the mono mix. if they still had the original two-track tape (with the vocals separate from the backing) for "love me do" and "she loves you" then the software would have to do less work to recreate the detail covered up by the vocal, but all that still exists is the final mono master for those tracks. even "twist and shout" from the same era sounds much better than the "love me do" and "she loves you" stereo mixes, which i'm attributing to them still having the original two-track tapes.

ufo, Sunday, 12 November 2023 00:02 (two years ago)

frankly the only great sounding versions of 'she loves you' are the mono ones, the loss of the master tape is fairly insurmountable though they tried. It's alright, but nothing packs the punch of the mono version and as time goes on, the more they try to make stereo versions of it the less impactful the song is. for a song that was synonymous with beatlemania in 64, it's not a song I ever hear in the wild anymore.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 12 November 2023 01:28 (two years ago)

I’ve noticed a slight roll off of top end on some mixes - takes the sting out of “Nowhere Man” which needs to sizzle a bit on the guitars. On the other hand “Penny Lane” sits together a little more cohesively. With some weird slurping noises pushed up higher in the mix, but that’s possibly because I haven’t listened with close attention in a long time.

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 12 November 2023 01:51 (two years ago)

I think Ringo is too prominent in the mix for some of these, but if that’s the price of getting new mixes in 2023 then I can easily accept that.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Monday, 13 November 2023 10:01 (two years ago)

Well this is one of the things that I like the most with these new mixes : hearing Ringo more/better !
Especially the bass drum.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 13 November 2023 12:45 (two years ago)

Singing a song called “Boys,” Ringo!

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 November 2023 13:29 (two years ago)

that drum'n'bass rubber soul is stunning

"in my life" drums = understated ringo perfection

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 08:06 (two years ago)


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