Is the Beatles 1962-66 (the 'red' alb) the only record of theirs that you need?

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I don't know about "over" the Beatles, but he seems to have the most balanced perspective by December 1980...

I liked the piece. I shared it with a few friends.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:42 (two years ago)

*seems to have had

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:42 (two years ago)

yeah he was good at bluffing

Left, Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:52 (two years ago)

esp in interviews he knew were for posterity

Left, Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:53 (two years ago)

Ultimately, I don't care. To divine intentions is a mug's game, especially with four guys who knew they'd created the 20th century's most persistent, annoying mythos.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:55 (two years ago)

It’s okay, but I still prefer this Last Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_Fb0AnzC0

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 November 2023 14:41 (two years ago)

the Firemen albums are McCartney going further in the direction of Secret Friend, to varying degrees of success (I think the third one is the only one that is completely successful)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

Wow, nice article (Hickey on Patreon), thanks for sharing! Didn't expect Rutles and Asimov references, and it's particularly illuminating for him to point out Lennon's last words spoken in person to McCartney ("think about me every now and then, old friend") - so the title "Now and Then" has multiple meanings...

ernestp, Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:06 (two years ago)

In 1981, a few months after Lennon’s death, McCartney invited Carl Perkins to collaborate on ‘Get It’, a song from his 1982 album, Tug of War. While working in the studio, Perkins showed McCartney a new song, ‘My Old Friend’, which contained the words: “Think about me every now and then, old friend”. Touched by the familiar lyrics, the former Beatle left the room in tears.

In a 1996 interview with Goldmine magazine, Perkins revealed an ensuing conversation between himself and Linda McCartney. “Paul was crying, tears were rolling down his pretty cheeks, and Linda said, ‘Carl, thank you so much.’ I said, ‘Linda, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to make you cry.’ She said, ‘But he’s crying, and he needed to. He hasn’t been able to really break down since that happened to John.’

“And she put her arm around me and said, ‘But how did you know?’ I said, ‘Know what?’ She said, ‘There’s two people in the world that know what John Lennon said to Paul, the last thing he said to him. Me and Paul are the only two that know that, but now there’s three…you know it. I said, ‘Girl, you’re freaking me out!’…She said the last words that John Lennon said to Paul in the hallway of the Dakota building were…he patted him on the shoulder, and said, ‘Think about me every now and then, old friend.’”

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/john-lennon-words-paul-mccartney-carl-perkins/

Left, Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

Love it. I almost didn’t believe, or didn’t want to believe, until the part where he said “Girl, you’re freaking me out!”

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

Might be time to rewatch this bit of awesomeness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiWAqhkCQZM

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 November 2023 19:24 (two years ago)

Dying at Hickeys line about the new track having “homeopathic amounts of George Harrison”

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:12 (two years ago)

yeah I knew about that last line from lennon trivia for a while now, that was certainly the driving force behind paul wanting to finish this song off.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:22 (two years ago)

and as such, in a way, I kind of wish less of a big deal was made about the whole thing (like, they didn't need to do a video); it's really a personal project.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 4 November 2023 21:22 (two years ago)

Now and Then '64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tSefoJDKsU

Now and Then '66

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABa_RH1ygC8

Alba, Saturday, 4 November 2023 23:29 (two years ago)

i am in two kinds abt the new track

on the one hand, i wish they would lose their instinct to overdecorate the christmas tree when it comes to this stuff
clean up the tape & let us have that
we dont need new backing vocals & strings & shit

on the other hand, paul & ringo have every right to be full Beatles about it and want to add to it and make it into completed content for the world to enjoy

either way it’s good that this exists as a finished song & it is quite a nice song overall imo

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 November 2023 00:04 (two years ago)

^good post

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 November 2023 00:13 (two years ago)

Dying at Hickeys line about the new track having “homeopathic amounts of George Harrison”


That killed me as well.

Especially as a big McCartney fan, that is a really, really good piece – the writing is on par with Ian MacDonald’s and, as a bonus, absent the suspect theorizing that always lurks in the background when I pull out Revolution in the Head.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 5 November 2023 03:40 (two years ago)

By the way, "Knicker Elastic King" is miles better than any of these reunion Beatles tracks.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 November 2023 09:53 (two years ago)

(x-post)

As posted on the Hickey thread, I don’t really subscribe to Hickey’s psychoanalytical theory that McCartney crafted ‘Now and Then’ ”…to be the message to himself he wanted to hear”

I suspect Paul’s main aim was give the fans what he thought they most want to see and hear: the sense that it’s a major and significant event, that the Beatles are back together for one last time, and that they always loved each other.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Sunday, 5 November 2023 10:07 (two years ago)

It’s really,really growing on me.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 5 November 2023 13:25 (two years ago)

Maudlin, safe, pedestrian, clumsy, inflated, rhythmically-dull as dishwater, tedious, frozen-in-nostalgia, a real bummer, and absolute non-music as well. And no doubt the best they can do at this point (I don't care about Macca's recent solo work). And all of this is beside the point, as stated above. It's a genuine return to 1995 when we all had to pretend to like Free as a Bird for a week, when we could all hear it was a lump of over-produced caked snot with zero joy or adventure or meaning beyond its ominous commercial significance. Credit to them for resurrecting the heady past of 27 years ago, and I hope it does wonders for their grandchildren's' bank balances, or something.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:11 (two years ago)

mccartney should take on the rest of the lennon solo catalogue next - I think he really could turn it into better pop music. he could finally add a really scathing verse to how do you sleep (how do you sleep with brian to get your name first on the credits? something along those lines)

Left, Sunday, 5 November 2023 16:30 (two years ago)

By the way, "Knicker Elastic King" is miles better than any of these reunion Beatles tracks.

That's a high bar!

timellison, Sunday, 5 November 2023 23:40 (two years ago)

XP In the late 90s a music magazine (forget which) had a feature where famous musicians sent in questions for an interview with Paul, and the question from Marilyn Manson Was "How do you sleep?" - in reply I think Paul just had a story about how in 1971 he was getting great sleep for the first time in his life.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 5 November 2023 23:46 (two years ago)

Question would he been better put to Manson.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 6 November 2023 00:09 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWFehaQEMYI

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 November 2023 00:39 (two years ago)

the '64 Ed Sullivan "Now and Then" cover is awesome

budo jeru, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:27 (two years ago)

and more enjoyable than the official release, i should add

budo jeru, Monday, 6 November 2023 16:28 (two years ago)

nooooooo

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 6 November 2023 17:03 (two years ago)

Have any of the new red album tracks leaked yet? Anyone 'in the know' on this thread who's heard any of it?

piscesx, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:16 (two years ago)

So after all this, I finally heard it. At first, I didn't even recognize it as a Beatles song.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:18 (two years ago)

lol it is so bad - george harrison otm in 1995

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:34 (two years ago)

people attribute way too much wisdom to the grumpy beatle

Left, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:41 (two years ago)

I showed my 17 year old the new video (cringe all around) and a bunch of other Beatle stuff last night and after a while she said “I think probably the quiet one is underrated.”

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:08 (two years ago)

george was a grump who hated literally everything always & only becamd moreso after the split so this whole “george was otm” amounts to a stopped clock being right twice a day

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

Did George become the hip choice to be one's 'fave Beatle' overnight after the Scorsese soc? That how it appeared to me

PaulTMA, Monday, 6 November 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

george is the most 90s beatle in many ways

Left, Monday, 6 November 2023 20:26 (two years ago)

I have zero skin in the fave fabs game - but i think in this specific instance george was indeed OTM that this uninspiring scrap wasn’t worth tarting up into an uninspiring song

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:30 (two years ago)

George was by all accounts a 100% different dude when not around Paul and John. Billy Preston, Dylan, Tom Petty, etc. all think the guy was a joy to be around.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:33 (two years ago)

ask Bernie Krause

brimstead, Monday, 6 November 2023 20:37 (two years ago)

xpost like when grouchy teen visits w other families who find them to be a delight lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:41 (two years ago)

lol

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:42 (two years ago)

Taylor later called Harrison "the very best and my most favorite person" of all the artists with which he had worked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Taylor#

timellison, Monday, 6 November 2023 21:52 (two years ago)

Wait what about Bernie Krause?

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 November 2023 22:52 (two years ago)

Mentioned earlier today.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 22:57 (two years ago)

O RLY? I can’t find it.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 6 November 2023 23:00 (two years ago)

ask Bernie Krause

― brimstead, Monday, November 6, 2023 3:37 PM (two hours ago)

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 November 2023 23:02 (two years ago)

Wait what about Bernie Krause?


weird story Re: electronic sound

https://www.theglassonionbeatlesjournal.com/2014/09/did-george-harrison-steal-credit-for.html?m=1

brimstead, Monday, 6 November 2023 23:02 (two years ago)

You're coming on like you're Jimi Hendrix," he responded, his voice rising in pitch and volume. "When Ravi Shankar comes to my house, he's humble.”

brimstead, Monday, 6 November 2023 23:04 (two years ago)


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