Is the Beatles 1962-66 (the 'red' alb) the only record of theirs that you need?

(think I just coined a word ^^^^)

nd with the two 95/96 songs, the signature element beyond John's ghostly demo vocal is George's playing…his solo on "Real Love" is fantastic, and redolent of who he had become by 1995,

yeah, it's a terse, stringent thing -- I love it.

Man I would love to hear those two 95 singles stripped of the Lynne frosting. Even, if possible, dig the Lennon vocals out of those tapes more cleanly, using the new tech, and remix the whole.

exciting to hear them get back to basics with this one: just 4 guys in 4 different rooms in different cities across different decades and some guys are dead and one is part computer, playing rock music

― waste of compute (One Eye Open)

Lol

Even, if possible, dig the Lennon vocals out of those tapes more cleanly, using the new tech, and remix the whole.

This is pretty much what the 2015 1+ mixes were. I'm not sure I can imagine them being usefully cleaned up further imo, they were risking the endearing drowsiness a bit as is (the piano intro to the 2015 Real Love in particular finds it gone completely).

This isn't even as close to as good as Handle With Care

I didn't realise the 1995 singles were remixed for 1+ - will check them out! Didn't find a lot to enjoy for Now and Then, the verse melody is pretty good, but the temptation to put Every Beatle Thing on Every Part of the Track was clearly too great.

the remixes on 1+ are awful, they mysteriously used different vocal and guitar tracks; the vocal track is alright but it's a noticeably worse guitar take. no idea what the thinking was there.

I didn't realise the 1995 singles were remixed for 1+ - will check them out! Didn't find a lot to enjoy for Now and Then, the verse melody is pretty good, but the temptation to put Every Beatle Thing on Every Part of the Track was clearly too great.

really? I mean IMO it could have gone way further. I think it's pretty restrained, particularly compared to Free as a Bird (I'm going to note that I like both Bird and Real Love a lot). It really does sound more like a solo Lennon recording with the others helping out sparingly, to me anyway. They could have recorded a lengthier, more beatle-y coda but didn't.

omg - or even a 'When We Was Fab' "indian' style string section coda at the end.

yeah. I mean I partly wish they had done that (ala Free as a Bird, where the coda is one of the best parts) but also, I'm kind of glad they didn't.

the thing about the AI-proof-of-concept possibility is that's it's utter nonsense to say the vocal couldn't have been teased away from the piano using just good old pre-AI EQ. I've seen mastering engineers make audible thuds just go away, and they're still technically there on the track, you just can't hear them anymore. Using AI here really is a "why don't we do this instead of the way we already had" thing imo.

it's just some kind of mastering software gussied up by calling it AI

I don't know. Taking away an isolated thud vs. a constant musical instrument in a totally different operation. When you do that kind of thing solely with EQ you get that weird underwater effect (like Lennon's vocals on the 1995 songs).

yeah, yr right I'm sure. idk the whole ONLY NOW WAS THIS POSSIBLE framing feels like sales which is so dumb. they do not actually need to sell this thing, it will sell itself

Joan otm

I think this is just OK. And I agree with whoever said upthread that it sounds a lot more like a mid-70s solo Lennon track than a Beatles track - a sort of b grade Number Nine Dream.

These methods are far more than just EQ. They're pulling out components which completely overlap in the frequency domain, using correlation with other frequency bands. EQ, no matter how great, can only boost or minimise frequency bands as a whole. This software is separating just the components which belong to the voice, or the piano, or whatever is being isolated.

Not that you need paul & ringo (or their endorsement) to do it, but my bet is cutting up the lads' dialogue from Hard Day's Night and autotuning that into a novel song would be more satisfying.

e.g.
Grandfather (He's so Clean)
I'm a Mocker

exciting to hear them get back to basics with this one: just 4 guys in 4 different rooms in different cities across different decades and some guys are dead and one is part computer, playing rock music

― waste of compute (One Eye Open)

underrated post

hi dere ilm! the love me do is the slower version with ringo on drums if that's why it's sounding...slower.

akm already said that, don't mind me!

Please everybody, if we haven't done what we could have done, we've tried

i think that stereo treatment of Love Me Do is amazing, really jazzed to hear a real stereo mix of She Loves You now.

Yeah, the guitar is clearer! This site says George played his Duo Jet on that first session with Ringo on drums (Gibson Jumbo acoustic on the later version), but it does not sound like an electric guitar to me.

http://www.beatlesebooks.com/love-me-do

what is this shit?

production on this makes it sound like a recent macca album - which no shade on macca but if what you want is the impeccable sound of post rubber soul beatles, why on earth would you listen to this?

not a great song, yet one for the name a demo/acoustic/live version that is superior to the studio version thread

Having posted the spotify link yesterday, I guess Alba is saving his final views for the video.

I am still digesting

think this is a one-time listen to me. birdistheword's review kinda sums it up.

these AI isolated vocals will age like Star Wars Special Edition CGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opxhh9Oh3rg

video is by far the weirdest thing about this whole endeavour

If they can fake, like, Hank Williams singing Fuck Tha Police or whatever, why couldn’t they process Paul’s vocal to make him sound like his 28-yr-old self? Hearing 80-yr-old Paul singing alongside much younger John is super jarring.

Song is ok. I can think of 30 ways it could have been better, but they sure could have fucked it up a lot more. Fits fine on an imaginary “disappointing long-awaited Beatles reunion album” comp. I especially don’t like how heavy they made the chorus feel, like it didn’t need to be produced as an epic; it’s not an epic song.

the musical style transfer ai tech is not really that great, as all the goofy ai covers on youtube demonstrate. i don't think it's really at the level where they'd be ready to use it for something like this

C/D: Microsoft Songsmith

i think de-aging paul's vocal would have been a bad idea. in fact I'm sure they had vocals from 95 they could have used and decided to go with new ones for a specific reason: that it better fits with the now and then theme.

that video: doesn't start promising at all (ghost john on a beach??? no) but I like the hello goodbye footage mingled in with the newer stuff. Pete Best footage was exactly what was expected which is disappointing since that's not 'never before seen footage' but jackson did stablize it

Certainly the Beatle Cloning technology has reached new heights going by the 2 Pauls and the 2 Ringos. A frankly excessive number of Beatles, we can only hope this tech won't be used for evil.

the age discrepancy in the vocals is the only part of this that isn't kitsch

I found I liked the song better despite the pure cheese of the video - reminded me that the Fabs were funny guys after all, and that goes a long way to redeeming the "late period plodder" vibe of the track. And as pathetic as it is, I still feel some weird connection to them as people, like they were great friends from college, or family I've not seen in forever.

kinda shocked at how ugly and clunky the video is, doesnt look any better than when they did that stuff in Forrest Gump

thought the video was kinda sweet... then @1:47 oh ffs

lol yeah same, so thankful to peter jackson for giving us that unforgettable image of beloved human rock band "the beatles"

Couldn't they have gotten Ringo and Paul in the same room to shoot their scenes in this...

yeah that's one of the worst parts of it. I'm sure there was budget for that, yeesh.

The Ringo and Paul pretending to sing in the same room bit is supremely ugly. Are they trying to play up the compositeness of the song? Or make it seem more huff-and-puff than it sounds?

i have no idea what jackson was thinking with that; well I think he was trying to match the kind of goofy hello goodbye stuff (which I do like...why does mingling that footage in with the current stuff look more realistic than composing these two guys together when they shot in the same month? I just read Paul's bit was filmed on an ipad. c'mon).

good god that video is godawful. Jackson did such great work on the documentary stuff so far, this is shockingly bad.

hobbit syndrome

Unfortunately the video reminds me of well done YTPs

Feel like they could have put these Hello Goodbye outtakes to better use. Jackson in maudlin mode is the worst.