Is the Beatles 1962-66 (the 'red' alb) the only record of theirs that you need?

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Despite having a lot of Beatles cds, I went a long time before I heard Hey Bulldog. Probably heard their version for the first time when the albums were reissued last. I saw Ween around 2006 and they covered it. I thought it was an awesome new Ween song.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:21 (two years ago)

absolutely agree that Hey Bulldog is one of the best unheralded Beatles tracks (like And Your Bird Can Sing)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:30 (two years ago)

they should try putting a fucking beatles for sale song on red if they’re gonna add anything. still a perfect comp whatever

― ivy., Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:09 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah srsly -- "Baby's in Black" and "No Reply" should've made it.

― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:15 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Adding to the absurdity is that in expanding the 62 minute original Red album to two full-length CDs, they have almost 100 minutes to play with, and they still can't fit in these 2 minute songs.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

why "glass onion" of all things

probably the movie, sadly

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:33 (two years ago)

The Walrus Was Benoit

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:35 (two years ago)

one of the best unheralded Beatles tracks (like And Your Bird Can Sing)

who are the losers who aren't heralding And Your Bird Can Sing???

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:37 (two years ago)

why "glass onion" of all things

probably the movie, sadly

Plus it's awesome ... and, to Left's point, it more or less sums up the Beatles' mordant self-hagiography

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:42 (two years ago)

Despite having a lot of Beatles cds, I went a long time before I heard Hey Bulldog. Probably heard their version for the first time when the albums were reissued last. I saw Ween around 2006 and they covered it. I thought it was an awesome new Ween song.

I remember the Bootleg Beatles saying years ago that when the played Hey Bulldog, some people would comment to them afterwards "So you're doing your own songs now?"

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:46 (two years ago)

Crucial twitter thread about the new track:

Absolutely cannot wait to hear this song which Paul McCartney said George Harrison refused to keep working on because it was "fucking rubbish".

— Marc Moss-Jones (@kip_saunders) October 26, 2023

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:48 (two years ago)

pic.twitter.com/A8HNmW1fbe

— Marc Moss-Jones (@kip_saunders) October 26, 2023

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 October 2023 14:49 (two years ago)

harrison basically said he wasn't that into it, but he was also a grumpy fuck through that entire period and largely only did anthology because he lost so much money in the handmade films disaster, so I don't really care what his opinion of shit was.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:02 (two years ago)

he deliberately fucked things up like edited 'you know my name' on anthology and torpedoed releasing the full helter skelter...just dumb shit. I like him but he was a curmudgeon

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:03 (two years ago)

he was usually right tho

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

damn that twitter thread is probably the most annoying thing i've ever seen on the internet

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:07 (two years ago)

he was exactly wrong w/r/t his anthology decisions.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:08 (two years ago)

Wait people don’t like “and your bird can sing”? I think it was the first Beatles song I heard that made me interested in exploring their music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:08 (two years ago)

he was exactly wrong w/r/t his anthology decisions.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)

https://i.imgur.com/eDufnye.gif

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

Wait people don’t like “and your bird can sing”? I think it was the first Beatles song I heard that made me interested in exploring their music.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka)

One of my favorite bridges and one of my favorite Harrisolos.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

Going just by the demo I’d understand why Harrison would have thought it sounded like crap and not worth the time to salvage it.

I believe he wasn’t speaking ill of the songwriting itself but of the rough quality of the recording.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

I don't think there's any suggestion that people don't like And Your Bird Can Sing (except for Giles Martin and the Continuity Beatles apparently not liking it more than Oh! Darling)

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:11 (two years ago)

One of my favorite bridges and one of my favorite Harrisolos.

― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

YES!

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

I think there may be some personal investment for Paul in the song that George didn’t share, as it’s said that John’s last words with Paul by phone were reportedly “Think about me every now and then, old friend.”

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

"Don't think about pissy George"

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:22 (two years ago)

lol

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:23 (two years ago)

"and your bird can sing" is my favorite beatles song

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:28 (two years ago)

yeah I wasn't implying that people don't like And Your Bird Can Sing. I just mean it doesn't get the attention I think it should given it's one of the best things they ever recorded.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:29 (two years ago)

the demo of now and then is definitely in rougher shape than Real Love and Free as a Bird, but I'm still pretty excited to hear what they were able to do with it now. I have no problem with McCartney basically using a cleaned up sample to construct a new song around it and that MAL demixing tech sounds pretty amazing. Purists might balk but I don't care.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:40 (two years ago)

i'm not expecting to be utterly blown away but if it's as good as the other two tracks I'll be happy. Those two songs have turned out to be major earworms for me; I don't think of them are core Beatles tracks, but I like them and they circle around my head an awful lot.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:41 (two years ago)

Circling back, it's sort of insane to me that "Tomorrow Never Knows" wasn't on Red's tracklist from the get-go

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:41 (two years ago)

"Real Love" is a Good Song, "Free as a Bird" not so much.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

Great video though

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:49 (two years ago)

I guess it would have spoiled the vibe of the red album as the one your Daily Express reading uncle liked.

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:56 (two years ago)

yeah, to be sure, it would feel way more of a place opening up the refigured Blue

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 15:59 (two years ago)

I mean, if it were up to me I'd have Revolution 9 on blue as well.

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

Beatles compilations are weird, it feels like watching a CNN documentary or something. I just never listened to anything other than the albums + past masters

brimstead, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:15 (two years ago)

and anthologies, don’t know the bbc sessions well

brimstead, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:16 (two years ago)

The only Beatles albums you need are Ballads and A Collection of Beatles Oldies.

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

Forgot Hey Jude

Alba, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:17 (two years ago)

And the Christmas records set

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

Has this being linked to https://people.com/the-beatles-announce-new-song-now-and-then-8382741

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

red and blue is how i got into the beatles, via cassettes in my family's ford taurus during road trips

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

i was 7, maybe 8

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:20 (two years ago)

Mostly excited for the remixed Red album based on this: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/beatles-now-and-then-1234862777/

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:21 (two years ago)

I have a longtime interest in the crazy world that is the Beatles' compilation discography.

They've almost never got it right, ever. '1' and Love are the two most obvious (conceptual) successes imo. They fucked up the roll-out of Anthology royally. But I love Real Love and even Free as a Bird, esp if paired with the videos.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:22 (two years ago)

I'm not sure what to make of more remixes tbh. I think my tolerance ran out after Abbey Road (I did hear Revolver and enjoyed Taxman but couldn't get too excited otherwise, especially given how terrible the She Said She Said mix was).

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:24 (two years ago)

they were pretty good with Tony Sheridan but after that I kind of check out

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:43 (two years ago)

I enjoyed You'll Be Mine and Cayenne but lost interest for years until they released Plastic Beetle and Peter Blake 2000. Although I did love the movie medley.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

red and blue is how i got into the beatles, via cassettes in my family's ford taurus during road trips

― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili),

^^ This. These albums were public library staples.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

I love that the RS article is so badly written that it implies the new track uses a vocal isolated by a microphone in a flower pot.

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 26 October 2023 16:59 (two years ago)

sure but there are causes for concern with some of the frantic ~legacy building~ going in recent years especially - paul and ringo have basically embalmed themselves already

it feels like they want to wrap the whole thing up and put it on a pedestal so that everyone worship it in the approved way - just at the point that new generations are finally starting to say interesting things about the beatles which trouble many aspects of the beatle party line. the whole thing feels a little reactionary


SETTING: A boardroom at Beatles HQ. PAUL, RINGO, YOKO, and OLIVIA are seated around the table.

PAUL: “Look, Lads … “
YOKO & OLIVIA cough & shift in their seats
PAUL: “ … there’s been some disturbingly provocative commentary erupting from this new generation. We’ve got to do something to retrench the narrative. God knows what we’d do if the truth got out.”
RINGO: “You mean… The truth we’ve been hiding all these years…?”
YOKO: “We’d be destroyed!”
OLIVIA: “I don’t even know what you’re talking about. We must do something. But what?”
RINGO: “I know!”
PAUL: “I’m all ears.”
Ghost of JOHN, unheard, to PAUL: “No, you’re all mouth.” And to RINGO: “And you’re all nose.”
Harp music plays as RINGO rhapsodizes: “Imagine an extended piece, at times as hauntingly beautiful as a Krakatoa sunset, at times as bracing as the North Wind, but always artistically gripping, that digs deep into our archives and recontextualizes the familiar, exposing the hunted dreams of the unheard and unseen Beatles, subverting our legacy and cementing it at the same time. A bold new artistic horizon unlike any imagined before by an ageing pop group. Maybe with a drum solo.”
YOKO: Rolls eyes
PAUL: “Nah, that’ll just get people thinking, and that’s exactly what we don’t want. What if we just repackage the Red and Blue albums?”
ALL: “Perfect. That will nullify nascent critical interrogations of the Beatle party line.”

SCENE

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 26 October 2023 23:24 (two years ago)


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