Favourite Van Der Graaf Generator Album?

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He does indeed.

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 9 August 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Thought you would.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 9 August 2009 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

IIRC the "gay" member of IQ was supposedly Tim Esau, the orig bass player, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't actually true. Not that it matters one iota.

If any of the 1st wavers were actually gay, I imagine they'd have kept their traps shut abt it, I mean it was the seventies, wasn't it.

The "asexual" thing is a total red herring, I know for a fact that members of King Crimson got mad action when they toured the st8s, if members of Pink Floyd, Yes etc didn't as well, well I mean really, come on, you know. That was one of the annoying things about that BBC doco, that they played up the asexual/dorky side of it, when a bunch of these guys, when they were young (esp Gabriel, Wakeman) were great-looking dudes.

f1f0 (Pashmina), Sunday, 9 August 2009 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, on top of that, I remember seeing Hammill in Leeds in the late 80's, and there was a coteire of hippie girls in brightly-coloured home-knit jumpers, who were up at the front, doting over the guy, and that's when he was middle-aged!

f1f0 (Pashmina), Sunday, 9 August 2009 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Hammill's always been a v. good looking guy, true.

AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS HATE ME NOW (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 9 August 2009 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

So that's who you modelled yourself on back in the 80s? ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 9 August 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

The "asexual" thing is a total red herring, I know for a fact that members of King Crimson got mad action when they toured the st8s, if members of Pink Floyd, Yes etc didn't as well, well I mean really, come on, you know. That was one of the annoying things about that BBC doco, that they played up the asexual/dorky side of it, when a bunch of these guys, when they were young (esp Gabriel, Wakeman) were great-looking dudes.

i wasn't really referring to their action, more the vibe of the music. which is generally - GENERALLY - not about screwing. or dancing.

ETERNAL WAR AGAINST THE DICKS IS ALL WE CAN RESPECT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 9 August 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I finally voted He to He. It's a tough poll because so many of these albums are so good.

Nate Carson, Monday, 10 August 2009 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Indeed. I do wonder how the albums from the last few years will do however.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 August 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

or indeed the 1st album. 0 for them all maybe?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 10 August 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i really, really like the first record. but i really like that early prog period generally. but i can't imagine anyone thinking its their best.

ETERNAL WAR AGAINST THE DICKS IS ALL WE CAN RESPECT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 10 August 2009 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

currently listening to 'the least we can do' and it's pretty good

cockles (country matters), Monday, 10 August 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 10 August 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

vote!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Now!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Please?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wau @ turnout even if 15 of them were pfunkboy socks ;)

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

only 15? at your last count I supposedly had 300 to your 12

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted Still Life fwiw

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway the most important vote was Geirs. What did he vote for?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

worth doing a hammill poll or shall we just declare Nadir's Big Chance the winner now and be done with it?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

not to distract, but seems as good a place as any given content above...
somewhere online (that I haven't been able to find again) I read a review of Yes - Going For the One, which stated (erroneously?) that U.S. audience/fans deserted en masse and didn't buy as many of the album, cos there was a rumour at the time that Yes were gay:
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/yes/11-1.jpg

considering Rush seemed to have joined in the following year, the implications are funny, especially when you consider the likes of Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson and his UK art gang may have subversively manipulated prog visual trends (see rumours about cover of U.F.O. - Force It for additional reference).

nice to see Godbluff at #1, Still Life way too low.

Paul, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I was thinking about GFTO during the naked female form thread. Maintain it should have just been 'naked form'.

cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

well it hasnt stopped males on covers being posted. so post away on it

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Great turnout! Especially considering how often I play VDGG for folks who've never even heard OF them.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

well you are a dj ;)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

worth doing a hammill poll or shall we just declare Nadir's Big Chance the winner now and be done with it?

I wouldn't say it was a certain winner, some of it's not very good

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

half the shite we vote on here isnt very good but it still wins!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

This is true

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:06 (fifteen years ago) link

when you consider the likes of Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson and his UK art gang may have subversively manipulated prog visual trends (see rumours about cover of U.F.O. - Force It for additional reference).

If you mean that Genesis P-Orridge and Cosey Fanni Tutti are on the cover, then that's no rumour, it's true

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't say it was a certain winner, some of it's not very good

yeah, i'd vote for ph7 or the future now before NBC.

ETERNAL WAR AGAINST THE DICKS IS ALL WE CAN RESPECT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

then that's no rumour, it's true

actually, one rumour has it as Pete and Genny!

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

not Hammill, that is - here:
http://www.paranaiv.no/files/images/ufo_force_it75.jpg

VDDG poll's getting Gristlized - VDDG would approve!

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link

actually, one rumour has it as Pete and Genny!

Pete never had long hair. Unless it's a wig.

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post)
though the post-punk/industrial(-folk) band that reminds me of VDDG = Eyeless In Gaza

why? Martyn Bates' OTT vocals, strange lyrics - e.g. the Hammill-worthy: "bite lips to blood in realisation, senses register cacophony"
plus the stark instrumentation, use of organ (lack of fear to write mental/sentimental love songs, Englishness, etc)

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

oops VDDG = VDGG

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link

(agreed the dude on the left looks more like Genesis)

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd recognise that arse anywhere

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

cheeky implants now? (sounds like a line from twatter)

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link

twatter

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link

did we do a Van Der Graaf epics poll? (couldn't find on search)

Paul, Thursday, 13 August 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, I've been listening to Godbluff all afternoon and it's clicked.

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Truly the band of the 70's.

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

fucking told you so
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Pawn Hearts used to be my favourite til I eventually heard Godbluff.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yes you did, well done :P

would still rank them scorched earth >>> the sleepwalkers >>> arrow >>> the undercover man but it's much much closer now, they're all super songs

don't see still life being eclipsed, that record is righteous, and pawn hearts is probably entrenched as my 2nd choice, but this is probably 3rd now, either it or quiet zone/pleasure dome at any rate

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:34 (fifteen years ago) link

REALLY fucking love quiet zone/pleasure dome

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link

The Undercover Man is getting better the more I hear it

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

...but Scorched Earth is a moment in time. It's righteous the way good religious texts are.

You are Rebels! You are all yankees (country matters), Monday, 24 August 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link


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