Lester Bangs - Classic or Carburetor Dung?

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I don't know what it means on ILM but...

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bobbins

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

a little bit of this and that

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link

derives from the Lancashire cotton mills, I think.

fetter, Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link

Psychotic Bobbins and Carburetor Challops

fascinating linguistic evolution - a technical term from the mills is generalised to mean rubbish in lancs dialect and in this vein used to refer to techno(?) in a thread title on an online message board and this definition sticks for years among people who have never seen a bobbin or been to manchester

bangs is using it literally I assume

Left, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

something similar could be said about challops where the ILM usage (roughly hot takes?) is closer but still different from the definition I was familiar with (balls) but idk what the original meaning is or where it comes from

Left, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link

a little bit of this and that

That sounds more like gubbins than bobbins tbh.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

Challops = challenging opinions

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

Yeah that might have been the cover story of the circa 1973 Creem issue with a giant quaalude on the cover.

It is entirely possible that I am conflating articles, but in the one I am thinking of he said of cocaine, "It will make you feel like the greatest person in the world. Yes, even greater than Erik Estrada." That would put it in at least 1977, although I am not sure how much sense that makes, since he left Creem in 1976.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

it’s more that the person posting thinks they’re posting a challenging opinion, isn’t it? Like, “there, I’ve said it”

brimstead, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

re challops

brimstead, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

i can't really read lester anymore. he's better when you are young and dumb and reading bukowski or whoever. and he's very dude. i do like that eno thing! but he could be really dense in a cringey way. or it seems like that now. like people have said, he was young when he died. i think i was older than 33 when i STARTED writing rockcrit. i definitely stole from him. couldn't help it really. i grew up with creem. and the voice.
cool thing: i read at nyu at one of those conferences and jim miller was the moderator and after he said to me "i used to edit lester bangs and i know how hard it is to do what you just did." !!!! i thought that was cool. (i didn't have the heart to tell him that it wasn't THAT hard. but i did work the thing i wrote pretty hard.)

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

And his drug of choice was fuckin' cough syrup, ferchrissakes.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

OG lean addict! he probably would have been a big dj screw fan if he had lived.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 October 2023 21:03 (one year ago) link

I don’t know what it’s particularly a sign of, but someone has to cite or write their own version of the The White Noise Supremacists article every so often. I remember that happening 20 years ago, and recently a guy who was in a popular band at that time wrote his own! Carlos D didn’t even bother to mention Lester despite hitting all the same notes

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 19 October 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link


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