I will close by saying shut the fuck up to Roisin Murphy and the “A” on your album cover looks like an Among Us guy
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 14 September 2023 05:53 (two years ago)
I’m just surprised that any writer would elect to be hired to write anything about this mess except “this is awful and it sucks”, the transphobia is a mere asterisk to the ineptitude of its execution. Not that it’s an asterisk, just that the album is total garbage from any standpoint. I can’t believe I stopped doing chores and enjoying a domestic life to audit this, I feel like I’ve gargled grey shit, like some dogshit that’s been left out in the sun for a week. We all own computers now, we can literally phone in better music than this aural bleach. What is it about her? Her Aryan hair? Her pinhole eyes? I literally retract every gentle criticism I’ve had about a Kylie or a Kelis or a Madonna over the years, the world does not need this music, a fucking lamp or a fucking stool masquerading as a human musician. Go to hell, Roisïn Murphy, and take this garbage with you
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:06 (two years ago)
rereading those 3 and 4 paragraphs on the p4k review and it comes across so clearly as "acknowledge the current situation and get back to our initial review assessment."
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:07 (two years ago)
I take it all back, P4k should replace the review with fgti’s
― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:10 (two years ago)
omg go off
― imago, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:24 (two years ago)
and to think we were recently doubting the value of negative criticism lol
― imago, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:25 (two years ago)
I hope it’s ok that I call Roisin English because I’m sure the Irish don’t fucking want her or Linehan any more
You didn't though, did you?
― Monthly Python (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:28 (two years ago)
I don’t remember her voice sounding so ugly and awful
koze messed around with her voice a lot on this album. it doesn't really work, one of the big weaknesses of it. idk what he was thinking/going for at all there (or with some of these tracks more generally)
i do like about half the album (though really not enough to come back to even without the transphobia) but the tracks that don't work really don't work.
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:31 (two years ago)
Gauging by her vocal performance, she’s not even English, not even human. She’s like.. a malfunctioning appliance? Or more an obsolete purchase or something? She’s a book from the 80s trying to convince you that it’s reasonable to cook eggs in a microwave.
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:33 (two years ago)
If a microwaved egg is Irish, then Roisin is Irish. Otherwise, she’s just a fucking microwaved egg
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:34 (two years ago)
She’s like.. a malfunctioning appliance? Or more an obsolete purchase or something? She’s a book from the 80s trying to convince you that it’s reasonable to cook eggs in a microwave
first thing i've read that actually makes me want to listen to it tbh
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:37 (two years ago)
"two ways" certainly does sound like a malfunctioning appliance
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:38 (two years ago)
gonna wait for the center for understanding new trigonometries remix
― imago, Thursday, 14 September 2023 06:40 (two years ago)
anyway everyone should be talking about the tinashe mini-album instead of this
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 07:29 (two years ago)
While this particular Róisín is letting the side down, it's high on the list of "Irish names that get thoughtlessly misspelled and mispronounced in the UK / US" - being a racist dick about her name is not in fact the good fight.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 September 2023 07:40 (two years ago)
was about to say the same thing. no need.
― houdini said, Thursday, 14 September 2023 07:44 (two years ago)
I’m just surprised that any writer would elect to be hired to write anything about this mess except “this is awful and it sucks”, the transphobia is a mere asterisk to the ineptitude of its execution.
I mean maybe those people genuinely like music you don't like? I think Murphy is a toxic fool and would be glad to see this record disappear but are you genuinely surprised that there are writers who like a record you think is awful and sucks? how old are you?
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 14 September 2023 07:48 (two years ago)
I still read and teach poets who were anti-semites. I believe that Polanski’s The Tenant is one of the more unsettling and worthwhile films made in the latter part of the 20th century. I am aware of the dissonance here, but really, I have written elsewhere why I don’t fuck with homophobes or transphobes because this shit is personal. It isn’t to you, which you should probably be thankful for and just move on.
I think these debates always end up focusing so much on "fandom" and "ok to like" to the exclusion of the main reason I think of when I decide to no longer support an artist - money. A recently deceased outsider Jazz artist and dead anti-semitic poets are a bad fit for Murphy, who is an artist with a new album to promote. I'd never buy a ticket for a new Polanski film, but am happy to watch The Tenant or Rosemary's Baby because he's unlikely to benefit from that in any way (specially if I pirate it). I don't want Murphy to benefit financially from her bigotry right now, if 80 years some ppl dig up this record and decide it rules that's fine.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:21 (two years ago)
The whole 'fortunately I never liked her anyway / what a relief the record is bad' thing is really tiresome.
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:31 (two years ago)
That's why I thought Laura Snapes' review was so good - it explored the art without waving away Murphy's actions, and vice versa, which seems an honest way of approaching it.
― Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:37 (two years ago)
Still seemingly loads of tickets left for her gig tonight in a 275 person capacity pub in Guildford (they just opened up a tickets only option where originally you had to buy a copy of the album to get in). Bit ignominious, maybe she needs to take Babybird up on that offer after all
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:44 (two years ago)
Just to update the .xls, these are the superstars of popular music that have stepped up to the plate for her so far afaicr:
BabybirdRebecca FergussonCarol Decker from T'Pau
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:49 (two years ago)
Dave Haslam, professional Hacienda nostalgist, can also be added
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:54 (two years ago)
Not Decker!!!
― droid, Thursday, 14 September 2023 09:58 (two years ago)
her twitter is an absolute horrorshow, think we can all guess what the T stands for now
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:05 (two years ago)
i really quite liked her and so am weirdly relieved that the album is a disappointment
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 10:38 (two years ago)
Surprised Right Said Fred haven't piped up xps
― groovypanda, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:00 (two years ago)
Noooo not Decker
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:07 (two years ago)
It's not even that I'm a fan it's just that my dad apparently used to go out with her pre-fame and it's hitherto been a fun thing to bring up.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:08 (two years ago)
Noticed that Billy Bragg was trending the other day as he was berating Murphy for her stance.
― Dan Worsley, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:09 (two years ago)
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:14 (two years ago)
as for an actually substantive post to respond to, yeah, Daniel Rf, the money thing is the big element, but I still mention the noxious views of certain writers when I teach them.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:17 (two years ago)
wow someone's touchy (like, even more than me)
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:30 (two years ago)
She’s a book from the 80s trying to convince you that it’s reasonable to cook eggs in a microwave.
lol
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 September 2023 11:52 (two years ago)
that thing where you can't find anyone that wants to come to the pub with you
Join me TONIGHT for an up close and personal, stripped back set @recordcorneruk in Guildford. EVERY ALBUM SOLD AT THE EVENT WILL BE SIGNED. Limited tickets are available 🖤 https://t.co/LFEWq9AQdE pic.twitter.com/4eaZj0cNF5— Róisín Murphy (@roisinmurphy) September 14, 2023
― NickB, Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:40 (two years ago)
Terfs HATE Billy Bragg because he speaks up for trans people.
Anyway RM actually used ‘TRA’ in her initial post, which is not a TLA used by anyone outside gender critical circles. That’s how trans people and their allies knew she’d been wormholed.
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:41 (two years ago)
Terfs hate Owen Jones too. I think that's part of how 'centrist dads' get wormholed.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:43 (two years ago)
just assume that under every soi-disant centrist there's a raving fash straining to be unleashed and you'll almost always be right
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:45 (two years ago)
Tom D has already cited the relevant Spinal Tap bit to cover Murphy's new gig strategy
― School of RAAC (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:46 (two years ago)
loads of terfs have changed their display names on twitter to Billy Bragg for some reason, when I see one I report them for impersonation, just on the off-chance that I can make their day slightly worse.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:52 (two years ago)
iirc it's some asinine point about how they're 'identifying' as him
― ufo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 13:07 (two years ago)
great fans, beautiful fans
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 14 September 2023 13:11 (two years ago)
What are some other good DJ Koze albums?
― piscesx, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:07 (two years ago)
He does great work most of the time, but he may have been trending yesterday because a TERF was complaining about being harassed somewhere and he posted "here's a picture of you from a different angle, you don't seem harassed, you're smiling" and that ... didn't go well.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:09 (two years ago)
(Billy Bragg that is, not Koze)
xp I like Kosi Comes Around a bunch. And how can it be that it came out, gulp, 18 years ago?!
― henry s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:19 (two years ago)
It’s not “it’s awful and it sucks”, it’s “it’s unbelievably inept and it’s so poorly made and performed that it’s a joke without a punchline”. Yes, I am surprised that writers misjudged a record that is bad from any angle, in any context; it’s not a question of taste, this album is dogshit with bleach sauce.
What is even more tiresome? reading endless ink about a problematic artist and then investigating to find out their music is entirely ignorable badly made garbage, see also Ariel Pink
Excluding an allegedly Irish woman from Irishness was a deliberate acknowledgement of the fact that the rise of TERFdom seems to be primarily a UK phenomenon, and is being heavily resisted in Ireland, because Irish people aren’t assholes. My regrets abt last nights “raisin” posts are not because I have any anti-Irish sentiment in me but because there’s an overtone of ageism that is unnecessary, and for that I apologize
― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:49 (two years ago)
any take which implies the person writing it is the ultimate arbiter of what's good and what's bad is arrogant and annoying
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:54 (two years ago)
I dont know who DJ Koze is but has he made a statement one way or the other in the wake of this?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:55 (two years ago)
This absurd vitriol about the album is making me want to hear it more and that's a bad thing.
― nashwan, Thursday, 14 September 2023 14:55 (two years ago)