RÓISÍN MURPHY

UK politics on ilx is hardly "holier than thou" ffs, it's minimum bog standard left wing views, which Dorian doesn't share.

tbh I probably muted him bc I found him annoying, not for his politics

the man has a podcast with ian dunt

I remember DL’s absolute dismissal of the role of white supremacy in the Tory victory in 2019 as a factor, but sure, these things don’t have any consequences for people in the real world.

the man has a podcast with ian dunt

yeah idk anything about his politics and have no idea who "ian dunt" is. only surprised bc he seemed like a smart, reasonable, and uncontroversial person when he posted here.

Should always call him The Spectator's Dorian Lynskey

couldn’t be less surprised at the p*phides thread. would be great to see someone with similar status in that world of culty british music / culture writers go against him. not going to happen is it.

when will the woke ilx mob stop ragging on professional centrists for not being holier than thou enough?

No idea who ian dunt is either. Rhyming slang?

You know ilx politics but you don't know who Ian Dunt is?

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai) at 4:47 4 Sept 23

No idea who ian dunt is either. Rhyming slang?

I had no idea about this story - I assumed this thread kept popping up because she had a new album out - until I saw a thinkpiece by Brendan O'Neill's little mini-me, Ella Whelan, in the Telegraph today.

The piece, beneath a photograph of a lonely Glinner just thinking abaout things, was about a mea culpa from some Irish writer I'd never heard of along the lines of "Sorry Glinz, you were right all along", which was apparently provoked by the response to Murphy's comments.

Meanwhile Murphy herself seems to have decided to act as if the whole incident never happened and carry on promoting her "fantastically reviewed" new album.

Basically this was just more content thrown out to the Terf Intustrial Complex. Her ex-fans have moved on.

That Irish writer was John Boyne, who may be the biggest piece of shit to ever slip from Ireland's stinking arse.

Out of curiosity I asked a friend who is active in trans research and trans rights work (but does not follow music or pop culture at all) if this had crossed her desk, and no, of course she had never heard of RM.

That Irish writer was John Boyne, who may be the biggest piece of shit to ever slip from Ireland's stinking arse.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/07/roisin-murphy-hit-parade-review

I have some sympathy for Snapes having heard what does sound like a good album months ago but at least knock one star off!

Yeah, Laura did the best she could.

This is the third time in four years that John Boyne has tried to make nice with Glinner. Coincidentally he picked up 600 new followers for defending Murphy last week, and has a new book out soon.

As well as fighting with the Auschwitz Museum for getting the Holocaust wrong, he is so dedicated to doing his own research and thoroughly analyzing what he reads that in 2020 he included monster body parts and fantasy mushrooms in a historical novel, because he googled “how to dye clothes red” and found a Zelda video game walkthrough.

I mean I was excited for the album too because I really like Dj Koze as a producer and was interested in hearing what he could do with Roisin - and yeah I’ll probably listen to it either way - but a 5 star rating is a bit exaggerated just going by the singles released so far.

Given the Guardian's previous approach to trans rights in the past few years I would not be surprised if Snapes' rating was originally lower and an editorial decision was taken by someone above her

we don’t have to review this record

idk maybe it’s better that ppl have a conversation about it but as a queer person and a trans woman this has totally annihilated whatever pleasure i could take in her music

so like why even handwring

boyne wrote a novel about a trans teen a few years ago, which was fairly typical ignorant cis writer muddling through, didn't come across as outright malicious but still offensive and very out of touch. then he accompanied it with a very both-sides newspaper column on trans rights, rambling about how he supported trans rights but rejected the term 'cis' and he supported navratilova's transphobia but not linehan's and rightfully got a lot of shit for all that. in response to being criticised he's tripled down (as he did when criticised by the auschtwitz museum) and eventually decided actually linehan is right.

i'd been thinking this could shape up to be her best solo album but it isn't (fortunately?), merely good-not-great. some wonderful tracks ("free will" especially) but also some that don't really work with very strange processing on the vocals.

it's weird to feel glad to be a bit underwhelmed by something

"I checked!"

Well, those reports were unconfirmed by the label. They have made no official statement whatsoever and they are not intending to donate proceeds from the record to charity. I checked!

— Róisín Murphy (@roisinmurphy) September 8, 2023

How nice for her.

if I ran an acclaimed indie label with a newly outed TERF, I would simply have issued a statement from the start and said trans rights with my chest and not through a source but I do not run an acclaimed indie label so what do I know

if you want to get a feeling for how twitter is going outside your bubble then have a look at the replies and QTs on Snapes's review. and the community note they've added.

The transphobes and Hadley Freeman are losing their minds (again).

Ratings aside that was a very well handled review.

in all seriousness, I still respect Ninja Tune for what was initially reported (and I hope Roisin is wrong) but their own silence is confusing (is it for legal reasons? safety?) considering Raisin's own silence is what really escalated the situation imo

can always rely on this guy for a bad take:

Your reminder that Róisín Murphy is being vilified for comments whose substance accords with what is now accepted to be best practice by the NHS.

Yes, I'm still banging on about it. I will do so as long as that vilification continues. Because this is some bullsh*t right here. https://t.co/xwyxKZhoVV

— (((David Bennun))) (@DavidBennun) September 8, 2023

Lots of TERF love-bombing as usual.

The quote-tweets on her ‘I checked..’ comment tell a far more interesting story. Mostly probably because TERFs don’t know how to use quote-tweets.

Big 'we get as many complaints from one side as the other' outcome for the Graun

Which is interesting in itself considering TERFs say ‘99.9% of people’ agree with them.

Do they also say they have the backing of "the silent majority"?

Freeman snidely side sniping at Snapes is it

You're in for a rude awakening when the wave of performative support from the worst people on the planet you are currently enjoying for being an open bigot ends and you realize you destroyed your career. And for what? To make queer people's lives harder? Embarrassing.

— André (@jygglypuffdadTV) September 8, 2023

she liked a tweet criticising boyne for apologising to linehan so who knows what the hell she's thinking lol. using twitter again can't possibly help her though

be mad if someone had stripped all the vocals and just had a wicked DJ Koze record to listen to wouldn't it. pic.twitter.com/OiVgcGOw5j

— bloatyhead (@bloatyhead) September 8, 2023

yes please re: instrumental release

I'm not on twitter anymore so I can't see what she responded to, but has it turned out that Ninja Tune is not donating to charity and not actually dropping her?

The story about Ninja Tune donating all proceeds came from "a source familiar with the matter told the Star on background" not from the label itself.

at the very least, Ninja Tune is definitely not publicizing her at all.

It sounds like Murphy checked with them and found it isn't true. If you believe her.

Well, those reports were unconfirmed by the label. They have made no official statement whatsoever and they are not intending to donate proceeds from the record to charity. I checked!

— Róisín Murphy (@roisinmurphy) September 8, 2023

I do feel bad for the producers who worked hard on this (is Koze the sole producer?). My most streamed piece of music by a wide margin was for a rapper who later got (rightfully) canceled. :/

never seen anyone implicitly so happy to learn a charity *wouldn't* be getting money