RÓISÍN MURPHY

or writing your hot takes on the cafe's wall for whoever stumbles by

Ha, she’s signed her bathroom stall graffiti and is now like “oh I never meant for anyone to know that was me to offend”

Rough Trade have also dropped her as album of the month.

Never loved Moloko, but really loved her first two solo records and have stuck around for the ride ever since. Always found her a fascinating enigmatic kind of performer and only discovered she was kinda goofy after following her on IG during the pandemic.

All that said, I'm sort of enjoying imagining her sitting around watching each domino of this album's rollout fall and growing more and more irate.

Lesson? Don't be a fuckin incurious bigot!

so if y'all don't mind, i'm trying to keep track of the other transphobes here

so jackmaster doesn't do anything as far as running numbers (lol)... is he nominally involved? wikipedia still names him but their cite is from the guardian in 2014 and maybe just nobody updated it. anything to do with his actions at Love Saves the Day in 2018? i mean as far as transphobes go he seems like a class act.

the teenage fanclub drummer... who is that right now? they seem to have had a good number of drummers and wikipedia, well, you know. apparently euros childs is a member now? good to see him getting work, unless he's a transphobe, in which case i'm extremely disappointed... he's like the one person involved in all of this i've heard of, i think very highly of gorky's zygotic mynci.

TFC transphobe drummer is Francis MacDonald.

I didn't see it myself but apparently he started spouting his mouth on Twitter a few years back

fortunately it's Brendan O'Hare on a catholic education/bandwagonesque/thirteen

fortunately it's Brendan O'Hare on a catholic education/bandwagonesque/thirteen

― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

sure, but it's still disappointing they have a transphobe as their current drummer. being in a band with an outspoken bigot isn't really a good look.

Never loved Moloko, but really loved her first two solo records and have stuck around for the ride ever since. Always found her a fascinating enigmatic kind of performer and only discovered she was kinda goofy after following her on IG during the pandemic.

All that said, I'm sort of enjoying imagining her sitting around watching each domino of this album's rollout fall and growing more and more irate.

Lesson? Don't be a fuckin incurious bigot!

― ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever)

I don’t think she was a transphobe then… bigots don’t stay dormant for that long.

My bet is on these “fixed” views of hers appearing lockdown-onwards.

It sounds like from some of these social media posts that she's certainly been callous and perhaps less than pleasant towards trans people in the past. Whether or not her views increasingly calcified over time is probably something we'll never know, but maybe she's always been this kind of uninformed asshole.

TFC's Norman Blake has also produced/mixed the appalling Fat Cops, who feature two GC journalists, JK Rowling's husband, Al Murray The Pub Landlord, and Bobby Bluebell. I don't know if he's GC himself - I'd hope not - but it seems that he's happy to give his old scene pals a free pass. In Glasgow as elsewhere, there are too many blind eyes being turned due to personal loyalties, professional connections, careerism etc. There's also that privileged/clueless thing of thinking someone who's always been vaguely progressive/liberal and likes hip music couldn't possibly be a bigot.
I don't think the label in question is FM's btw. The boss of that keeps it well hidden, so acts on the label may well be unaware.

I tried looking up the Francis MacDonald stuff and found people discussing another terfy Glasgow singer who has seemingly avoided cancellation through tweet deletion

mentioned earlier in passing but my wife's heart was broken when she discovered one of her fave indie solo artists is apparently not just a bit conservative but seems to have some absolutely awful thoughts she has successfully buried from view, due to having a vv small cult and apparently realizing she shouldn't follow certain IG accounts nor post vile thoughts under her artist account anymore.

I still think of RM as the singer on 'The Truth' by Handsome Boy Modeling School, in fact that's basically my entire experience of her music.

This chat does make me wonder that on top of all the other ways she's pulled the pin on her career, who the heck is she going to collaborate with in the future? Can't be many people among the type of producers and artists that she's been working with that'll want to be associated with her views, even if they do happen to agree with them in private

I mean yes there is always the keyboard player from elbow and the (ex) banjo player from mumford dream team but

Album of duets with Van Morrison.

Even David 1cke is tweeting about her now, you know you're up shit creek when that happens. Tbf he does describe her statement as "grovelling" but still

she's in purgatory now. she probably doesn't exactly want to be (publicly) associated with the few people who are supporting her at this point, and is losing fans at an alarming rate.

It just gets worse for her: Brendan O'Neill has penned a Spectator column in defence of Murphy, "the Irish songstress".

how many cis points is that?

The two genders, songstress and funnyman

*tugs at braid*

lolll

don't know who Brendan O'Neill is, but I see his head looks like a giant red pill

ex-trot troll who is one of the preeminent mainstreamers of a sort of middlebrow fascism in the UK

he is the british media's red pill if you like

For some reason I initially read Brendan O'Neill as Brendan Perry for a second and my heart skipped a beat

mentioned earlier in passing but my wife's heart was broken when she discovered one of her fave indie solo artists is apparently not just a bit conservative but seems to have some absolutely awful thoughts she has successfully buried from view, due to having a vv small cult and apparently realizing she shouldn't follow certain IG accounts nor post vile thoughts under her artist account anymore.

― omar little, Thursday, August 31, 2023 11:38 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

If this person's name rhymes with "doubt giblet" I will be very upset

wouldn't be anyone who has "make speech free again" as their twitter profile

Already been through Calcination

def not Scout! xxp

name names!!

i wish i had the receipts on this one, but the reason i'm not is just because my wife's friend is also good friends with this musician, and i don't really want to create a whirlwind for her either. plus she's so minor league, just absolutely zero profile basically. it wouldn't do anything but turn her a martyr rather than remaining no one of major importance.

I don't think Big Terf is scouring ILM for potential new martyrs but I could well be wrong there

ex-trot troll who is one of the preeminent mainstreamers of a sort of middlebrow fascism in the UK

― your original display name is still visible (Left)

i'm sure there are trots who _aren't_ trolls, i just don't think i know any personally

there's at least one anti-trans site that has used old posts on this site as ammo fwiw, not exactly major-league shit but one can't rule out the possibility

wow i fucked up that quote, oh well

trots are basically trolls after about 1990 - long before then in many cases - arguably the big man himself was one of the best

as for the other thing I guess that was wishful thinking on my part, sorry

being a trot means being a #resistance liberal patriot to an entity that no longer exists so the various splinter groups all had to go in weird new directions if they were going to survive - the o'neill/spiked/LM crew were seeing the writing on the wall and taking a hard right turn relatively early and they've been fairly well integrated into the conservative establishment by now

i have suggested a terfwatch 77 thread before, still not sure if it's a good idea, but would solve this question at least

at what point do trots become indistinguishable from advocates of hoxhaist posadism, i guess is the question

I don't think Big Terf is scouring ILM for potential new martyrs but I could well be wrong there

you say terfmartyr...

inertia and residual organisational muscle memory from having an actual political tradition at one time is the only real difference now so I guess the answer is until that burns out and/or adapts to new agendas and we've been there for a while now xp

that and having much more boring fixations than communing with aliens from your bunker or whatever

The @Independent's review of the new Roisin Murphy album spends paragraphs fretting that she might be "cancelled," but barely touches on *why* LGBTQ fans feel hurt, betrayed, and used. Fortunately this person in the comments section nails it pic.twitter.com/jYV37TolHg

— Chris Stedman (@ChrisDStedman) August 31, 2023

otm

hunt for new collaborators goes on

she apologized. u can keep her

— Ariel Pink (@arielxpink) August 30, 2023

shot by both sides

Lol that’s a new low