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I had never heard them before seeing 24 Hour Party People, which prompted me to proclaim their genius. I've been trying to start the revival ever since.

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

despite my love for all things Hannett, I just don't
like the *sound* of Bummed.

I have to agree. Besides 24HPP, I also relistened to Bummed recently and it didn't leave as much of an impact. Felt like a great EP that led into a great album, or rather it felt like that's what should have happened.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 April 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The Egg 12" is the best HM ever - a pity that it's never been dug out for CD.

this was a BeMusic production, right? perhaps it will be appearing on the next LTM BeMusic compilation.. (i don't know if it is, but i guess it's entirely possible)

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Bummed could really use a remaster

― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

These guys' songs only really make sense to me when I see Bez or an actor playing Bez dancing to it.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

but you can always count on some jackass replacements fan claiming it's crap

Hey now. In college, my Mondays and Replacements albums coexisted quite happily in my record crate. We played "Hallelujah" at parties, and "Here Comes a Regular" at the end of the night. Corny as fuck, OK, but there you go.

― spittle (spittle), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that's unusual i think. that song in particular used to bum me out, man. i first heard the mondays and stone roses and the early 90's british stuff i love(d) on this radio show late sunday nites in houston where i grew up. he would be playing all this stuff that was new and awesome to me (incl. U.S. stuff like pixies) and then throw that in there and my heart would sink. like "that's the stuff people like along with this?!" i would just swear up and down i never would get into it because it seemed so cliched and ridiculous to me. so it goes back almost fifteen years now, my hatred of them. not that i'm justifying it, i'm only being honest about what their work engenders for me and always has. they are a (perhaps unfair) but very real scapegoat (of sorts) for me.

― duke gone, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

huzzah! My vinyl copy of Pill n Thrills arrived today! I am excited. I can feel the US baggy revival comin on... (okay maybe not)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

double huzzah! Today I received my copy of "Squirrel and G-Man". So which song on here has the "24-hour party people" lyric refrain...? Cuz I don't see no song called "24 Hour Party People" on the sleeve.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

it ain't on that one. I think it was a b-side of "Wrote for Luck" but if anyone knows different/more step in (or step on, hahahah)

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

You have the original version of the lp. 'Desmond' was replaced by '24 Hour Party People' on later copies.

― rw, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

say what? I feel cheated.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It looks like 24 Hour Party People was issued as its own single. I guess I have something else to hunt down now.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

the song's also on the film soundtrack, slightly remixed

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"carnt smile"

― duke union, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

What's the title of the last song? "Cobalt"? That's one of my favorite songs ever

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

24 hour party people is on the "Loads" compilation that was released about 10 years ago. It was limited edition; however, it seems to be limited to anyone who wants one.

― Keith Watson (kmw), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The double CD was limited edition, the single was more widely available.

― kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

that song is also on the palatine box

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/sleeves/smileitsmonday.jpg

http://www.norfolkwindmills.com/sleeves/smileitsmonday2.jpg

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 12 June 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

I am "feeling" them again at the moment. Great.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I might go back to the "Time Machine" thread and change my answer. This is the band I probably would have liked to have seen the most. Their shows must have been a complete mess.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 16 September 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

The G-Mex video is a riot. Soaked in MDMA. Bez is enjoyable to watch.

― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

they are horrible

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 September 2004 04:43 (twenty-one years ago)

well i wouldn't invite them over to mum's

― mentalist (mentalist), Thursday, 16 September 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Rowetta has just auditioned for the X factor! And she's through!

― Madchen (Madchen), Saturday, 25 September 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that was truly mad! It was weird that no-one involved in the programme made that connection...

― M Carty (mj_c), Saturday, 25 September 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The book of 24 Hour Party People by Tony Wilson goes to great lengths to talk about Bernard Sumner's production on the first album without ever explicitly denying the John Cale credit. Maybe the John Cale credit was a joke? It doesn't sound like an oversight/fabulation on Tony's part - he talks about how Bernard was the secret great producer of the 80s, inheritor to Hannet's mantle on his Bemusic stuff yadda yadda, but that with the Happy Mondays he was dumbfounded by their sloppy genius and just recorded them straight.

The book also suggests that the group were taking Es and listening to house when Tony first met them, which may owe a bit more to creative license.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 26 September 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anybody have a reasonably accurate Bemusic discography - I know the obvious, but..

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe the John Cale credit was a joke?

i can remember reading an interview with cale where he mentioned recording the mondays. he said something about how he was trying to get straight and hid in the control booth cos they were running around like maniacs and offering him all sorts of temptations in the chemical department.
i think barney produced the 'freaky dancing/ the egg' single though.

― zappi (joni), Sunday, 26 September 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The "can I get an 'E'" line from the movie was cheap but hilarious.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I remember Uncut's New Order history which described Bernard high on acid in the studio with a lab coat on. I think he's an amazing producer.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 26 September 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

My friends and I covered "Bob's Yer Uncle" for our high-school talent show! It was a combination of the album version and the remix with the synth-line. We even had a Bez and a Rowetta - and we won!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Barney produced first Mondays single, Cale first Mondays album. Wilson confused? someone please publish book in Australia and reveal.

― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jedmond - try here for a start: http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/bemusicnotes.html

― Bill E (bill_e), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

It's published in Australia Kit - someone gave it to me for my birthday this year.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)

little matchstick owen.. genius

― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:25 (twenty-one years ago)

woo!

though I've been looking in Kinokuniya for a year and it wasn't on Chaos when they had a book department :(

― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Tim, you really have to get 'Twice As Nice' if you enjoyed CAI.

http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/ltm2398.html

Absolutely worth the price for the staggering version of Shark Vegas's 'You Hurt Me' [Could still be a massive hit if rereleased], and 52nd Street's ultra-funky 'Look Into My Eyes'. Even the Royal Family and The Poor track is good.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 27 September 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Bill E - thanks for the info (it's safely fallen into the must aquire section)

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

The Peel Sessions are not to be sneered at, yo. In fact, I'll go as far as saying the Peel versions of "Freaky Dancin'" and "Cob 20" are the equivalent of aural heroin.

― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also "Olive Oil", too.

― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

more leik aural kfc amirite

― EsteBAN LOUIS JAGGER (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 24 September 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Heavens, no. I'm a vegetarian.

― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

wouldn't stop you "going for a kentucky"

― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 25 September 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha! Okay I totally get the joke now, thanks guys.

― Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Monday, 25 September 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

tart tart a lost classic too.

i just found out : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GktTYL7FO4E

― pisces (piscesx), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

love the delightful 12"

― PAUL FUCKING ROBINSON (electricsound), Thursday, 18 January 2007 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

You fuckin' betcha! I just put that in a podcast I did...

― White Dopes on Punk (Bimble...), Thursday, 18 January 2007 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

The Happy Mondays' reputation seems to describe a great divide between American and UK pop aesthetics. In the US, they're just another early-90s cutout bin band, like EMF or Jesus Jones, as some of the comments above attest. I was an American living in England as they emerged, and they utterly baffled me. I remember a NME review of the time describing how they were the summation of all that was great about Manchester from the Buzzcocks to the Fall to New Order to the Stone Roses. But to my ears, they took the weakest elements of all those bands. I appreciate the looseness, the regular guy appeal, but for me the beats don't gel and the songs seem hook-free. My English bandmate was shocked and gleeful that I was looking to unload my copy of Bummed.

― bendy (bendy), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

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