Lily Allen - This summers biggest racist?

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i think i hate england

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 5 May 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Try not to hate… keith allen’s daughter or not, she can write some sweet lyrics. Anyway, those missing mixtape tunes are 9 is ‘She taught me to yodel’ by Peter Barry, the junglist tunes at the end are ‘Incredible’ by General Levy, not UK Apache and that ‘31 seconds’ tune is called Valley of the Shadows by Origin Unknown from about 1993 (I think) – like someone else said, the mixing is a bit rough but the tune selection is spot on, reminds me of my own tapes :)

― runforcover, Friday, 5 May 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i think she's adorable and her music is light & fun like most good pop(and I was totally not sold on MIA or Lady Sov, or Nellie McKay either)

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

LDN is the happiest song about pimps and crack whores and old ladies being mugged ever.

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I lean towards Jess's take for now. It's a case where reading about people's reactions to it probably says more than hearing the music itself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:43 (eighteen years ago) link

the mixtape is good, though! "piracy is terrorism" = still great, right?

― DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link

for rough orientation, think nelly furtado.

(not an insult in my book.)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 5 May 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.

reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

It feels about as hip to choose the former as it did admitting that a lot of that Arctic Monkeys album was actually decent :/

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Lily vs. M.I.A. is a troubling decision.
reasonably familiar, safe, bourgoise, appealing, genuine knack for vocals
or

"new" sounding, abrasive/exciting/radical popette, charmless, vocally annoying, little ability to own her tunes

And which is who again?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread is doomed.

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:10 (eighteen years ago) link

and to reiterate, she put credence on her mixtape

― jergins (jergins), Friday, 5 May 2006 06:18 (eighteen years ago) link

lol look what I have started, I am of no relation to Lily Allen nor do I work for her! jus like the music and thought I should spread the word... which I think i have done succesfully.
I don't like the video, jus looks cheap, cant fault the songs though.

E-clex
www.eclex.bravehost.com

― E-Clex (E-Clex), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link

It's spelt Creedence. And Creedence rule.

(x-post)

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link

is this the beginning of a Creedence revival?

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link

(and yes, I'm sorry)

― StanM (StanM), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:44 (eighteen years ago) link

You'd better put some clear water between you and this thread....

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Like Lady Sov or the miserable MIA if they had any talent At. All.

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

The best thing I can imagine this being is the new Betty Boo but I have a horrible feeling I'm going to be disappointed. What exactly are the words Belle and Sebastian doing on this thread?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link

keith allen’s daughter or not, she can write some sweet lyrics

That's the first thing I always look for in any form of music - good lyrics

― Vitbe... *pause*... Is Good Bread (Dada), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow this thread has gone from hype to backlash within the space of a week: that's a new ILM record!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:23 (eighteen years ago) link

This is feeling more "like" cheese vs. chalk every post, and I'm regretting the Lady Sov comment quite a bit.

― fandango (fandango), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

actually i think the first strokes thread STARTED as backlash.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Doesn't count then. I haven't looked but I assume the Dave Matthews band one did too.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

right, ok, i went to her myspace finally and she describes herself as "pop/indie/ska".

i never want to hear any of you so-called 'pop' 'kids' mention her name to me again.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 5 May 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Lily Allen.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 May 2006 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

If it ain't grindie, Lex ain't fucking with it these days.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link

in grindie mode

― the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Too bad Lex! I have now been made aware of exactly which "team" is working on this. I like LDN and will be blaring it out before I go out.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

the 'mixtape' sounds good.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 5 May 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link

dude the mix is GREAT! the only thing that lets it down is jammer's "go dj" (#15)

so's we don't get confused - "Go DJ" is by JAMMIN' (aka DJ Zinc) (NOT the later grime dude Jammer, whose early productions were routinely FABO!)
agreed re Zinc, most of that whole run of breakstep is dud
one tune at a time ain't bad though, whole night of em's excruciating

love Lily's mix!

― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 5 May 2006 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

'Go DJ' was good but obv. in '138 Trek' shadow. The version I had featured this great stringy bit.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 5 May 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link

this music sounds like what would happen if someone locked nellie mckay in a room with only forced exposure's servicing as nourishment

― maura (maura), Friday, 5 May 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Listen to the mixtape now. Great so far.

"LDN" sounded pretty good on first listen, but I think that "Smile" song on the mixtape is even better, a lovely summer jam. Old bluebeat tune plus cheeky cockernee singing works for me.

― Jeff W, Friday, 5 May 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

this music sounds like what would happen if someone locked nellie mckay in a room with only forced exposure's servicing as nourishment

ROFFLE

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

9 is 'She taught me to yodel' by Peter Barry... and that '31 seconds' tune is called Valley of the Shadows by Origin Unknown from about 1993

Agree that 9 isn't Montana Slim as I'd originally thought, but, um, which one is that '31 seconds' tune? I'm still not getting a name for 7 some dancehall guy, 8 another dancehall guy, and 17 some funky dubby thing (one of which may be 31 seconds for all I know).

Only heard two or three Nellie McKay songs but once upon a time read scads of Forced Exposures, and I'm not perceiving Lily having much connection to either Nellie or FE. I suppose she's closer to them than to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, but still not particularly close. I mean, I doubt she's fucked a pig in her life.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, as far as I know, Lily got her first ILX mention on the teenpop thread, so classic.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

#8 is selectah "wede man" on hoody records (1993)
-- DEEDS NOT WORDS (vfoz...) (webmail), May 4th, 2006 8:27 PM. (vahid) (later)

the jungle track at the end is origin unknown's "valley of the shadows (31 seconds)", omni trio VIP remix, right?
-- DEEDS NOT WORDS (vfoz...) (webmail), May 4th, 2006 8:29 PM. (vahid) (later)

uh, hello?

― Captain TeenTalk (vahid), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Lily's stuff is pretty good! Not so much M.I.A. or Lady Sov for me - more like The Streets' "Let's Push Things Forward" meets Ms Dynamite's "Dynamitee" and lots of Lina. Lex you will really like it!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

But her voice reminds me a lot of Martina Topley-Bird, plus the Morcheeba singer.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Who wants to bet Lily will voice a song on the next Basement Jaxx album?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

(i meant forced exposure the publicity company, not the zine)

(also, i actually *like* this stuff! i listened to 'ldn' about six times yesterday.)

― maura (maura), Saturday, 6 May 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.lilyallenmusic.com/music/demos/5geuj0iedc/MyFirstMixtape.mp3

does this mean there's mnore than one mix? her site seems to be down...

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i meant forced exposure the publicity company, not the zine

I knew exactly what you meant!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark Ronson is pimpin' her stuff on his weekly radio show (stream available) :

Playlist for 05.05.06
(...)
Lily Allen Smile
Mark Ronson Oh My God feat. Lily Allen
(...)

oooh, and he's into our buddy Mickey Avalon too, apparently.

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

lets start talking major labels - do you think shes gonna get signed by jay-z to def jam or lil jon to BME? i think if lumidee can have a hit lily allen can have TEN hits! i cant wait til she performs on the grammies with ghostface, kelly clarkson, three 6 mafia, big'n'rich, clipse and dipset!!!

― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Saturday, 6 May 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the Lily song that's fourth on the mixtape quite a bit more than LDN. Less bouncy and twee-sounding, she does more singing.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 6 May 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

omg this is awesome! lex you are crazy if you don't listen to this!

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 6 May 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Reminds me of McKay (not Nellie).

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 6 May 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Ian?

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, 6 May 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

"some sweet French Europop thing"

I had a cynical wish that this was going to be Desireless "Voyage Voyage"....

― al dada (JTS), Saturday, 6 May 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link

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