nooooooo
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:38 (one year ago) link
yeah this seems to be real - the account is in a few FB music groups I'm in, and it seems convincing enough to make me believe it's definitely her own personal/private profile. Really fucking grim when you consider that so much of her profile is based on leaning into being the "hip" choice of gay icon, it feels like the LGBT+ audience are worthy of using for acclaim and profit but not affording autonomy and respect to.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
one of the grimmest aspects of the transphobic war has been this endless parade of allies and libs deciding that they've reached the threshold of their tolerance and have no choice but to side with hate
i guess at least there's some masks off
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link
not her real account.
this is her official space :
https://twitter.com/roisinmurphy
different avatar pic.
been through recent likes/replies and this aint in the listings i can see.
― mark e, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
it's not from the twitter account as far as i understand this
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link
isn't it from her FB page?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link
ooh bugger .. dont follow her on FB so missed that small detail.
:/
― mark e, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
yeah, this is from her Facebook page, and I mean "her" page - her own private profile, not the page you can like and follow her as a fan of an artist. I've seen her pop up in threads on groups like W0rld 0F Ech0es and in the comments of mutual friends, not just recently but a good few times over the years. Much as I would love for this to be fake I don't have much doubt at all about it being real.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
someone on that Twitter thread describing this as her "Donna Summer" moment and it does feel apt. She could have kept this private opinion to herself, and been this awful, with the fanbase being none the wiser. The fact she felt compelled to make this comment despite being fully aware it could be screenshotted and shared tells me how little she actually values the fanbase that she's built over the past thirty years.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
I was today years old when I discovered Roisin was a TERF. Really saddened and shocked particularly as she moves and thrives in LGBTQI+ spaces— DJ Heidi Lawden (@DJHeidiLawden) August 22, 2023
people are saying it's real & she doubled down when challenged by a trans
which, fucking hell. hard to think of someone who this would be more disappointing from
― ufo, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
Just awful.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
as disappointing and fucked up as this situation might be, it is v funny seeing TERFs who odds are have never listened to a note of her music before today suddenly proclaim her to be a genius goddess
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
She's also on record admitting to previous drug-fuelled hedonism in her younger days. So... drugs to alter up your brain chemistry are fine, except when they might actually help trans kids be able to live life authentically?
I mean this is not the thread for a debate on puberty blockers and it doesn't need to be but ugh what a fucking massive disappointment
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
it is v funny seeing TERFs who odds are have never listened to a note of her music before today suddenly proclaim her to be a genius goddess
this is a core terf behaviour, like all culture wars fascists
― you're a sick man, Buddy Rich (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link
I'm pretty gutted by this to be honest. This is someone that I would classify as an all-time favourite artist and I have to agree with boxedjoy that it seems especially perverse that she would hold these views when the queer community constitute such a large part of her fanbase.
Her posts are now being boosted by Glinner and his TERF armies, so unless she unequivocally apologises for her ignorance, then frankly I'll...have to check out of this album campaign, unfortunately, and re-evaluate how I engage with her work generally.
― monotony, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link
i'm honestly not surprised by this, though of course it sucks. hasn't she been kind of nasty to her queer audience previously?
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:01 (one year ago) link
also she old
hasn't she been kind of nasty to her queer audience previously
did she? not aware of anything
― ufo, Thursday, 24 August 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link
man fuuuuuuuuuu
kind of bummed tho, she was on my list of artists to really get back into
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 24 August 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link
(the first line is a joke because she is 6 months younger than me)
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, 24 August 2023 12:14 (one year ago) link
Specially disappointing coming from her.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 August 2023 12:48 (one year ago) link
I haven't looked at the financials of Big Pharma lately but someone should tell Roisin that with the worldwide international trampling of medical care for trans people, it is doubtful that anyone is making a buck these days on puberty blockers
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
Seeing her socials get swarmed by the wee Fash-y Musk fans and Mumsnetters who’ve no idea who she even is.. ugh!
― piscesx, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link
She has been atypically radio silent at least on Instagram, she'd better come back with an actually sincere and humble mea culpa, taking full responsibility, and what I hope is a genuine willingness to be a better person. I hope it's not empty ass covering bs crafted by a crisis response team.
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
As I told my kid this morning in an unrelated conversation, sometimes people you like will deeply disappoint you and sometimes to the point of no return.
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
She tweeted 'Do you believe in Free Will?' on the 22nd. And she talks about kids being confused - not aware of her talking about kids needing protection from the biggest abusers and predators out there.
― nashwan, Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link
she'd better come back with an actually sincere and humble mea culpa, taking full responsibility, and what I hope is a genuine willingness to be a better person
really hope so - she's one of my favourite most listened to artists over the last 25 years and still making great stuff and with a new album imminent that was promising now ruined and leaving me wondering just what disturbingly high % of my favourites are just one stupid post away from exposure over this particular issue
― nashwan, Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
yeah she'll either offer a real apology or double down. my money's on the latter unfortunately :(. just trying to hedge off disappointment. i'm a fan just because, at its best, her songwriting really captures complex emotional states. and her choice of producers or remixers is always superlative for a dance floor. re: being "nasty" to her queer fans, i shouldn't have said that. all i remember is reading something in some interview somewhere where someone was asking her if she considers what her queer fans want her to do, and she basically said no, she doesn't think about that at all. of course that's all iirc, i'm not going to hunt it down haha. so less being nasty to a queer fanbase, more 'doing art and not caring what anyone thinks about it' which has always been her thing anyway afaict.
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link
― the new drip king (DJP), Thursday, August 24, 2023 1:14 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
well then maybe she isn't old enough ;)
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:42 (one year ago) link
abolish gay icons imo
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
ones who aren't gay at least
disappointed but too numb to be devastated by now and there's too much great queer music to waste any more time with hers
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
i really question, based on her particular lifestyle, how much time she ever spent directly interacting with LGBTQ folks or operating in spaces w/them. there are plenty of great pop musicians who do, and are actually strong allies and supporters and actual members of that community, so...idk it sucks. i agree w/map about the emotional intelligence of her work, which is what makes it more shocking in a way. for others "i don't care what people think" is manifested in better ways, like maren morris going off at transphobes within country music without any fear.
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
like i mean her life just seems like that of a person who has a very regimented set of places she goes to, i just don't sense cultural curiosity as much as a lot about herself. i don't mean that LGBTQ folks don't live in England or Ireland or Ibiza obv. i might be projecting though, unfairly on those who are similar to her in superficial ways.
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link
sorry just genuinely very frustrated and angry at yet another dumb opinion from someone i like
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link
I didn't see her quote. What specifically did she say?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 24 August 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link
I think people (me) assumed some sort of queer affinity because of all the theatrics and costumes and personae but we need to get some better fucking standards
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
I didn't see her quote. What specifically did she say?click through on based gizmo
― vashti funyuns (sic), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link
It appears Roisin has been quietly removed from this weekend’s @homoelectric line up. The right move. Roisin should have the right to reply and commit to listening and learning. Here’s hoping x https://t.co/fvo0p3Ql9h pic.twitter.com/m9hqUNnluF— Nathaniel J Hall (@NathanielJHall) August 24, 2023
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link
she and Santana can tour together
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 August 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
+ Alice Cooper :(
― nashwan, Thursday, 24 August 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
haven't had this much disappointment in an artist in my house since my wife found out one of her favorite cult indie singer-songwriters was an absolutely awful secret right-winger
― omar little, Thursday, 24 August 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
Fuck this. I'll be skipping the album.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 24 August 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
well fuck - was looking forward to seeing her at Portola in SF. Curious what the crowd vibe will be for that set, and mulling over whether I should bother checking it out now. Ugh goddamnit
― octobeard, Thursday, 24 August 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
there's more:
There’s more. I’m friends with the person who made the original post. pic.twitter.com/nFl2WbM1w1— Cosmopolitan Outrider (@rudebwoyben1) August 24, 2023
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link
this is why we need child liberation because creeps like cannot stand the idea of children having bodily autonomy
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
*like these people
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link
“I might not be informed but I’m still going to give my uninformed opinion instead of shutting the fuck up and not engaging on politics that will alienate my fanbase”
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
idk I'm pretty tired of the just innocently blundering into this debate act and I don't really care how conscious people are of what they're doing when they choose to abuse children and cheer on pogroms etc
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
You see Ro, “calling it” as you “see it” is what’s causing the problems here
― piscesx, Thursday, 24 August 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link
She sounds like a PTA mom.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link