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― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:24 (nine months ago) link
I mean I don't just listen to an album once, especially not an Autechre album where you often need 5-6 listens to know what the hell is going on. the live sets are cool because you can just put on a different one each time, because they're similar enough that you start to recognize the different bits but different enough to make it interesting. no doubt Rob and Sean have had the thought of making albums where the algos actually do are a little different each time you hear it, to me the NTS Sessions hinted at that sort of thing, but obviously there are no widely adopted protocols to make that possible. having 7 versions of the same live set is kind of the same idea though
― frogbs, Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:26 (nine months ago) link
I would love for them to put out an "album" where each "song" is actually a generative algorithm that spits out a track with slight variances each time; with or without potential parameter inputs. Seems on brand for them. Key snag here would be the legal ramifications of such a release, and how might they retain IP/copyright ownership over the generated track and how they'd be able to tell which ones in the wild were "theirs".
― octobeard, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:17 (nine months ago) link
yeah people talked about that when the random minidisc came out, and someone said unclear IP rights was exactly what stopped Autechre from doing it. reliability of that statement unknown obv
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:18 (nine months ago) link
Listening to London set B from the latest drop and it's really gorgeous. Love how rounded this set sounds, the different elements aren't jaggedly cutting into each other, it all has a lush organic and silky flow/mix to it. Making me even more pissed I am missing the Australia shows by literally a week. Hope they hit up North America soon. Haven't seen them since 2014
― octobeard, Friday, 18 August 2023 22:43 (nine months ago) link
> I would love for them to put out an "album" where each "song" is actually a generative algorithm that spits out a track with slight variances each time; with or without potential parameter inputs.
sounds a lot like what eno did with his koan thing...
https://intermorphic.com/archive/sseyo/koan/generativemusic1/
― koogs, Saturday, 19 August 2023 06:27 (nine months ago) link
I tried London A and Bergen, wasn't really into either, but London B still seems fantastic to me.
2015 live fans - where should I start?
― toby, Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:42 (nine months ago) link
nagano - though I realise now I've never actually listened to any of the US ones, rectifying now.
― crutch of england (ledge), Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
nagano grafenhainichen - this has the most going on towards the end, of the first seven anyway. according to a lol spreadsheet i made at the time.
― crutch of england (ledge), Sunday, 20 August 2023 14:55 (nine months ago) link
> have only downloaded the mp3s, they're 140-190mb each....> 700mb for all mp3s,
i think one of these things was true but even 140 x 6 is not 700 (1.1GB it quoted me)
but took no time at all using work's under-utilised wifi!
― koogs, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 12:52 (nine months ago) link
use ansi-standard dates, you dweebs
― koogs, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 12:55 (nine months ago) link
limited edition print on sale, how much of a sucker fan am i? https://autechre.warp.net/ae_live
― crutch of england (ledge), Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:13 (nine months ago) link
my 2016/2018 download only came with one image but i see the individual files there each have their own
― koogs, Thursday, 24 August 2023 15:18 (nine months ago) link
fucking in the fucking venue row fucking 3 rn
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:40 (nine months ago) link
\m/
― crutch of england (ledge), Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:46 (nine months ago) link
Magical set from Actress in support
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 10:49 (nine months ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 09:40 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
3? how extravagant
― imago, Sunday, 27 August 2023 10:51 (nine months ago) link
I asked to switch seats because of a bass rattle and am now sitting above the stage
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 11:00 (nine months ago) link
Excessive bass can be an issue. Almost ruined my Helsinki '22 gig, as the concert hall made primarily for acoustic classical music performances was definitely not suited for booming bass.
― jvc, Sunday, 27 August 2023 11:53 (nine months ago) link
The set was radically, transcendently new. Grimy, oily beats, brutal sonics, overwhelming, huge rushes, complete 180 from the abstraction of the last decade. Positively evil, pummelling, wow.
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:24 (nine months ago) link
thanks to a kind personhttps://we.tl/t-nptWp9F7Ex
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 28 August 2023 03:01 (nine months ago) link
Thanks, I will make this my first time listening to live AE!
― 50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link
complete 180 from the abstraction of the last decade
I don't believe you but I'm happy you had such a good time!
(downloading now)
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Monday, 28 August 2023 21:22 (nine months ago) link
you weren't lying
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 28 August 2023 21:32 (nine months ago) link
hehI think I made an immortalised WOO around the 22 minute mark
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 28 August 2023 21:47 (nine months ago) link
Loving the emphasis on hip hop beats on the Sydney set. Damn. Will be in Sydney next week so maybe I can hear some faint echoes of the show reverberating off random buildings in the CBD or something while I'm there.
― octobeard, Monday, 28 August 2023 21:48 (nine months ago) link
Whoever posted that 2023 set, thank you, finally listened to it today and it is bleakly gorgeous
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 September 2023 21:53 (eight months ago) link
There is a lossless version on archive.org now by the way
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 23 September 2023 21:54 (eight months ago) link
https://archive.org/details/Autechre2023-08-27
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 23 September 2023 23:09 (eight months ago) link
I don't know if anyone ever mentioned these (I was surprised to find them) - here's two shows from 94 & 95 :
https://www.mixcloud.com/oscillate_sound_system/autechre-live-oscillate-1494/
https://www.mixcloud.com/oscillate_sound_system/autechre-oscillate-21295/
― StanM, Friday, 13 October 2023 08:38 (eight months ago) link
noice
― behold the thump (ledge), Friday, 13 October 2023 09:29 (eight months ago) link
The 95 set is superb.
― behold the thump (ledge), Friday, 13 October 2023 10:49 (eight months ago) link
it really is
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 14 October 2023 12:00 (eight months ago) link
https://nialler9.com/autechre-conversation-about-music-art-funk-and-emotion-interview/
― just sayin, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:21 (seven months ago) link
what i'm getting from that is that they only really like people called Mark.
― koogs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 09:58 (seven months ago) link
Autechre actually popped up in the novel i'm reading at the moment, Ian Rankin's 'A Question Of Blood' (2003):
'You're going to tell me you've never smoked or had a drink?'
But of course he wasn't going to say that. Doctors had higher stress levels than cops. One thing she had done - her own initiative - was trying to get into ambient music. Lemon Jelly, Oldsolar, Boards of Canada. Some hadn't worked - Aphex Twin and Autechre; not enough meat on their bones.
― koogs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 11:34 (seven months ago) link
I enjoyed that interview, some interesting links/tracks to check out later.
― behold the thump (ledge), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:07 (seven months ago) link
lmao
Sean: Yeah, I mean, Rae was written in a really emotional state as well. I remember exactly what I was doing, where I was and everything when I did thatDroid: It’s funereal, it’s just absolutely stunning.Sean: Yeah, it was a hangover (laughs) It wasn’t even real sadness, I wasn’t even going through anything. I was just, I was just feeling really fragile that day.
Droid: It’s funereal, it’s just absolutely stunning.
Sean: Yeah, it was a hangover (laughs) It wasn’t even real sadness, I wasn’t even going through anything. I was just, I was just feeling really fragile that day.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:09 (seven months ago) link
I love these guys so much
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 17:10 (seven months ago) link
OMG "Rae" confirmed Sean solo track??
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link
article got me to go listen to one of the 2014 live sets, which I haven't done since 2016. at the time it all seemed like too much, impenetrable. listening to it now of course, it just sounds like prime lucid stuff.
I guess it would make sense that an Autechre album released at time t+1 would prepare you for the live set appearing at time t. Autechre's music only really legible to time travelers, to the displaced.
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:35 (seven months ago) link
I love the 90’s stuff all the way through, but even since then, I often find the emotion in your music to be almost unbearable – going back to tunes like, Yulquen, Overand, Nonima, and some of the stuff on SIGN. I almost can’t listen to it. I can’t even describe the emotion; It’s like a kind of ache, you know, this kind of mix of yearning and joy and loss. And even the happy songs like, Keynell 4 or Chicli seem to be touched with sadness.
This statement by droid nails it for me too. Sean's response was spot on - really touches on the emotional connection both those bands share in terms of that melancholy and sense of longing. The other emotions I'd attribute to Ae are menace and swagger, too. Not enough is written about that.
What a great interview!
― octobeard, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:43 (seven months ago) link
Also, humble brag on that hand written letter from Thom Yorke haha
I found the bit about how their focus has shifted to the live dumps to be kinda fascinating but also a bummer, because I really don't like those. I just don't have time to listen to an hour of slowly shifting Autechre at a single sitting. I want an album I can pull individual tracks from as time permits, and occasionally listen to front to back.
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:54 (seven months ago) link
Agreed.
I think it would be different if they released these live sets in smaller bunches, or like one every month or two - but 5-25 at once (or whatever) is just kinda psychically overwhelming.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:58 (seven months ago) link
agreed but the live stuff feeds into the studio albums now right? like every time a new album comes out I feel like people are going "oh this is that bit from last year's live set", etc
but yeah I agree great interview, I love how even after 30 years they both come off as very creative and questioning individuals who still don't claim to know the right or wrong way to do anything. I thought it was cool they brought up Lynch so much, they're similar in that their work is also emotional in very hard to describe ways
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:06 (seven months ago) link
I guess this means their next album is going to SLAP
― octobeard, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:13 (seven months ago) link
was pretty amused that was the one topic where they just went "nope, not gonna talk about it". dont look now but we're coming up on 3 full years since PLUS by the end of the month, the longest gap between Ae releases yet. not that they don't deserve the break!!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:18 (seven months ago) link
Good lord is 3 years the longest gap? Could have sworn it was longer but now that I look, 3 years was the gap between LP5 and Confield as well as Exai and Elseq.
Given they're actively touring and releasing recordings, it's all good - not like they're hinting at retiring just yet (thank goodness). Just hit up Cali soon please!
― octobeard, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:24 (seven months ago) link
I wouldn't mind if they only did live sets from now on, the only thing I would like is that they split them up into smaller tracks rather than just one long hour+ track. I don't always have the one hour to listen to this stuff and sometimes I want to listen to one specific thing from the live sets and not the whole thing.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 19:28 (seven months ago) link