maybe to get back on thread track: I think it's good pitchfork deleted their egregiously racist reviews from the early 00s
― rob, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:00 (ten months ago) link
: ratings, I like Alfred's categories
― Indexed, Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:45 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinl
That's the stuff.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link
xpost - yeah alfred that was great, one of the better reviews i've read for a while i thought
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:08 (ten months ago) link
could you re-post Alfred?
― rob, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:10 (ten months ago) link
Wait -- I'm confused.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:11 (ten months ago) link
I think I'm the one confused! what are Indexed and ums talking about?
― rob, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:14 (ten months ago) link
Your point was sound, solid.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:18 (ten months ago) link
oh sorry we were talking about this PIL review
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/public-image-ltd-end-of-world/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:20 (ten months ago) link
Oh! I agree
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:21 (ten months ago) link
gotcha
― rob, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:30 (ten months ago) link
I think I'm the one confused! what are Indexed and ums talking about?― rob, Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkYour point was sound, solid.― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― rob, Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:14 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 10, 2023 11:18 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
heh
― Indexed, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:05 (ten months ago) link
I was talking about Alfred's categorical ranking system on HTV. Couldn't tell you what the difference between a 7.5 and a 7.7 rated album is, but I think having some broad categories is helpful for prioritization when you're talking about a site like Pitchfork that reviews 5 albums a day.
― Indexed, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:08 (ten months ago) link
lol i assumed that was about a prindle review of pil
― imago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link
first actual prindle review of pil
No hang on that was a typo - I meant that Leonard Cohen HAS a revolting cock. It's withered and scabby with an endless stream of pus and blood oozing out all over his testicles and underpanties.
― imago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:10 (ten months ago) link
shd have spoilered that probably lol genuinely sorry
― imago, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:13 (ten months ago) link
so NOW we know what inspired the Revolting Cocks
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link
We’re polling this, right?
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-25-funniest-rappers-of-all-time/
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 August 2023 15:02 (nine months ago) link
devin the dude erasure smh
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:04 (nine months ago) link
I would have added Boots Riley
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:06 (nine months ago) link
Just kinda bizarre that Kool Keith isn't on there
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:07 (nine months ago) link
oh he is.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:08 (nine months ago) link
But Kevin Gates? Come on.
kevin gates is very funny, more in his interviews than his rhymes tho
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:11 (nine months ago) link
the only interview I've heard with him was the Combat Jack one where he got mad at the co-host for defending prison guards
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:12 (nine months ago) link
I have uh a lot of opinions
― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 August 2023 16:33 (nine months ago) link
share 'em, why not? no slick rick or odb seem like pretty big oversights
glad they included ghostface tho, he really is one of the funniest rappers.
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 14 August 2023 17:13 (nine months ago) link
I mean, the list is so flawed that it's not worth nitpicking, needs an entire overhaul
― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 14 August 2023 17:15 (nine months ago) link
He belongs on the list but their example for Pimp C is just a line he borrowed from LL Cool J!
― JoeStork, Monday, 14 August 2023 17:15 (nine months ago) link
good to see kool keith and mf doom on there but where the hell is odb
― Hospital Radio, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 10:36 (nine months ago) link
i, uh, think they might have messed up the score on the jiggy in jersey review
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 04:46 (nine months ago) link
they fixed it lol (it showed 0.0, i swear)
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 04:58 (nine months ago) link
maybe it will get bigger but it's absolutely insane to me that this trash magazine is not running with the large top of the fold news about Gary Young
― a (waterface), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:00 (nine months ago) link
the NYT of music journalism
― a (waterface), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:01 (nine months ago) link
Yeah, I was surprised how low it was when they posted it last night. Looks like it’s moved up a few notches, but still… this is Gary f’in Young!! (Guess Dolly reuniting Paul and Ringo takes the prize)
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:05 (nine months ago) link
Quite a Mojo-ation going on: the news pieces I see at the top of the page are about Dolly Parton/The Beatles, Gary Young, DJ Shadow, Talking Heads, Gun'n'Roses and Green Day plus a couple about young whiper-snappers like Mac DeMarco and the National
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:07 (nine months ago) link
This 10.0 album wouldn’t exist without the guy (even if the review was taken down for some reason)
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:09 (nine months ago) link
ha ha taken down because Ott wanted a pay-out iirc
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:14 (nine months ago) link
It’s wild that there is currently no review of S&E on Pitchfork.com
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:32 (nine months ago) link
I guess maybe it's odd that they didn't review the 30th-anniversary reissue from last year, but if that hadn't come out, I wouldn't think it unusual that they didn't have a review of an album that came out three years before the site started.
― jaymc, Friday, 18 August 2023 14:41 (nine months ago) link
well, Pavement is kind of a quintessential Pitchfork band. And they've gone back to review tons of albums that came out before the site started. This is an odd case because there was a 10.0 review that was scrubbed because the author was kicking up a fuss.
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:43 (nine months ago) link
Yeah seems like a quirk of circumstance; maybe they’ll give it a Sunday review eventually (although I kinda like the lacuna effect in a way).
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:48 (nine months ago) link
it's totally insane and speaks volumes that there's no review. they're going back and reviewing old stuff all the time
the famous shit cat review is of a reissue of an album that came out in 1962.
― a (waterface), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:52 (nine months ago) link
i guess it just proves that they're a shit music site
― a (waterface), Friday, 18 August 2023 14:53 (nine months ago) link
Oh, I missed the Ott thing. Yes, Pitchfork reviews old albums all the time with the Sunday Review, although I get the impression that one of the main goals of the SR is to expand the canon beyond the site's 90s indie-rock roots. So Pavement might not be top of the list for the same reason that a Mariah Carey single replaced "Gold Soundz" as Pitchfork's #1 song of the 90s.
― jaymc, Friday, 18 August 2023 15:00 (nine months ago) link
Wow… S&E was #70 on last year’s list of The 150 Best Albums of the 1990s(!!) I guess times have changed…
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:00 (nine months ago) link
Things done changed on this side.Remember they used to slack? Now they dance, right?
― hardcore technician gimmicks are also another popular choice f (President Keyes), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:02 (nine months ago) link
no they Teams probably
― But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:12 (nine months ago) link
I guess I missed it or forgot when that list came out last year, because dang… that goes far beyond the scope of revisionism that I anticipated to find (I thought it would be top 5 at least).
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 15:21 (nine months ago) link
yeah that's pretty fucked up
― a (waterface), Friday, 18 August 2023 16:01 (nine months ago) link
The Gary Young item has now dropped to the second row of "More From Pitchfork" (mixed in with a mishmash of news & features from the past month). I think that stinks!
― You have been verified with your voice (morrisp), Friday, 18 August 2023 18:49 (nine months ago) link