The King Crimson studio album poll

I must have listened to "In the Court of the Crimson King" about 5-6 times last night and this morning - I love it, especially the title track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD09qQjHXsw

quonytail!

i am disappointed the elephant appears to not actually be in the room with him : (

if i'd have known of this poll, i'd have prob voted poseidon

"your mother's quite insane"

Seriously though, "Poseidon" might be "Court" part 2, but it's a better album. No "Moonchild" for a start, and "Cat Food" is a fun little song instead. I remember being blown away first time I heard that album.

I much prefer "Moonchild' to Poseidon's "Devil's Triangle" these days.

I bought discipline today in fopp for £5

WTF Moonchild is great.

Apparently Fripp himself now feels it was 3 minutes too long. But "Devil's Triangle" coulda been tightened a bit too. Really, KC never did make that album that satisfied me fully, which might be the reason I never voted

surprised fripp would feel that way and not also think "construktion of light" was 30 minutes too long, which it is.

construktion of shite

That album wins the "worst KC vocals ever" category.

yeah it is totally irritating. there are some good songs on there, kind of (barely). the next one was better. I've said elsewhere, I really wish KC would move back toward the clean sound of the 80's albums or do something completely different, going back to "Red" and rewriting it hundreds of times is pretty boring.

Tonight's instalment is "In The Wake Of Poseidon".

Not grabbing me anything like as immediately as "In The Court Of...", but I enjoyed 'Cat Food' and b-side 'Groon' a lot. Just about to start a second spin.

those are maybe the most interesting things on it. cat food is really overlooked, I kind of wish the current lineup would try playing it.

the title track is epic but maybe not quite up to Epitaph

the title track sounds exactly like a cross b/w epitaph and in the court!

the worst thing about the album is the horrible cover art.

"Groon" - Boris covered that.

I never got into The Wake of Poseidon really. (It's still to this date the only king crimson studio LP I never purchased - oh and The Construkction of Light - I pirated that album). I do have Frame by Frame box set which has all the best Poseidon stuff anyways plus the last disc has great live versions. Not that I listen to the Frame by Frame box set very often.

If you're like me, you'll like Lizard and Islands more than Poseidon. ITCOTCK is the best of the first 4, imo - on first listens the title track was my favorite but now my favorite song is either "Epitaph" or "I Talk to the Wind"). Also "Moonchild" is quite lovely. I like to consider myself a "Moonchild" since I was born slightly past midnight during a full moon in late June.

Once you get to Starless and Bible Black and Red you'll be having quite a bit of fun.

BTW, 21st Century Schizoid man is going to be on Guitar Hero 5.

xpost, I was just wondering if that were the case as I listened...

Lizard has been the one that's grown on me the most over the years.

lizard is pretty let down by haskell's vocals which are markedly different and more dramatic than on "cadence and cascade", and the presence of jon anderson.

the worst thing about the album is the horrible cover art.

really? i love it

Last night we got a copy of Belew's new album "E" in the post, from Tennesee. Bf then pointed out that the customs shipping declaration was actually signed by Adrian himself.

What a dude!

Yeah, he lives right outside Nashville.

Tonight it's the controversial "Lizard".

Tonight you are going to be David Icke?

how did you get on with Lizard?

It was OK. It didn't set me alight, but I certainly didn't think it was bad in any way, pretty good in fact, but no "In The Court Of...".

It is better than Islands.

Larks Tongue in Aspic is my favorite, but Lizard is criminally underrated. Cirkus and the title track make that thing amazing.

i like lizard best for sure. "cirkus (including entrance of the chameleons" is an even better lead off than "21st century schizoid man." as great as that song is, "cirkus" overwhelms me less but sticks in my craw more somehow. and why would someone knock jon anderson's "prince rupert awakens" vocals? i can only chalk that up to not enough love for the cheerful insanity of giles, giles, and fripp

Having a listen to http://www.last.fm/music/King+Crimson/USA just now.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx

some interesting stuff about the remixing project.

(and some Lizard love)

I'm interested to hear what krakow thinks of Islands, because that's another getting-off-the-bus point for people. it's good though, I didn't appreciate it until I heard the live stuff from the same band.

That's up next. Might try it tonight, depending on how things go.

Primer in The Wire this month.

Yeah, by Joseph Stannard who is one of their metalheads. So I fear he's going to rep for the 90s stuff (Construkction of Light, Thrak, Power to Believe, which I find pretty unbearable.

I also think Crimson is kind of a safe and obvious choice for a Wire Primer, but maybe that's just me.

I suspect stannard would laugh in your face if you called him a metalhead.

He was editor of Terrorizer you know

yes, I know. but he is no longer editor of terrorizer, largely because he tried to broaden the remit beyond metal.

haven't read the article yet, but I know that stannard has seriously broad taste - and, pertinent in this context, he really knows and loves his prog. don't be afeared.

(as it happens, construkction is my own personal favourite),

Maybe I should pick that Wire up then.

I just saw this thread bumped and think I might have to get Red. I've never heard it; I have In The Court, Lark's Tongues, and Starless, but that's it. I remember having Thrak a while ago, but I don't seem to anymore. I don't think I sold it, but if some poor schlub roommate "borrowed" it off of me, I guess a just penance is to have to carry it around.

(as it happens, construkction is my own personal favourite),

Really? I gave it a couple of tries around the time of release, but I couldn't take it...and I generally give even dubious Crim a pretty wide latitude. What are the standout tracks on Construkction in your opinion?

FWIW I thought the Power to believe was an improvement, but they really need a rethinking of the band if they're to continue.

i'm sure mr. fripp will take your recommendation under advisement

What are the standout tracks on Construkction in your opinion?

genuinely believe that 'into the frying pan' is all-time top-5 crim

prozakc blues and frakctured are pretty good too. as is the coda. title-track has the single worst line in lyrical history, but i'll let y'guys find it for yourselves

i mean some days 'into the frying pan' is second behind 21CSM

I just saw this thread bumped and think I might have to get Red

Definitely, it's their most cohesive and powerful album. Now is the time to get it as well, what with it having been remastered by S Wilson out of Porcupine Tree and with a bonus DVD of rare live footage or something.