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(...saw for "Vampire Empire," to clarify)

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

...except for that bit about Elliot Smith.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

(haha, I was willing to let that go)

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:40 (two years ago)

never followed this band but listened to the newly released song followed by the performance on Colbert.

the studio version is better. her vocal performance is stronger on it. the flute doesn't really add anything except that it makes the guitar sound craggier in relation. it feels extraneous.

suspect people only prefer the Colbert version because it's familiar.

maybe i should listen to this band idk. i don't usually like straight up indie rock but Lenker seems like she has more to offer.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

They really need to ignore this kind of shit.

younger bands are bad at ignoring stuff, and what's more, they can get press for responding, so they usually do.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 July 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

honestly the biggest problem with all versions of this song is i can’t stop hearing “empty tushy fills, alive tushy kills”

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:54 (two years ago)

Hahaha, I didn't wanna say it....

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:59 (two years ago)

sounding wonderful on the p4k stream and generously playing a ton of new material

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:00 (two years ago)

lmao what the hell is this vocal effect on "spud infinity"

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:54 (two years ago)

james is doing pitched-up autotune harmonies on it and it is deeply bizarre

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:56 (two years ago)

I was there in person and I dunno what you are talking about. Great set.

jaymc, Sunday, 23 July 2023 03:43 (two years ago)

it was very clear in the stream audio, in the right channel only

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 03:49 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgwBsusfEI0

this'll probably get taken down at some point, but "spud infinity" is at 1:17:45 if you want to hear the goofy vocal effects.

other highlights are an acoustic "words" (0:00), born for loving you (17:40), "seam" and "free treasure" (48:20), and "happiness" (1:06:00)

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 21:14 (two years ago)

I'm all for the wacky outfits, but I would draw the line at a mermaid's tail. No mermaid's tail or gtfo, guy.

alpine static, Monday, 24 July 2023 18:29 (two years ago)

https://soundcloud.com/97tlr/forgiver

thinking about this 10 minute version of unreleased track "black crow" (aka "forgiver") where they go fully crazy horse

ufo, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:37 (two years ago)

i haven't seen the colbert version but i just listened to the new "vampire empire" on spotify and it seems good? seems like a song that could have been on the last album maybe with a bit of two hands era

the whole online thing w/this band is really weird, seems like a band to just listen to and never talk about on social media

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fQGCc_O18

gorgeous sprawling new song

ufo, Thursday, 27 July 2023 07:33 (two years ago)

Wonderful, yeah

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Friday, 28 July 2023 02:50 (two years ago)

Another one from Buck Meek's alb, out 8/25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njKwzygKaRY

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:29 (two years ago)

Classic Country style: you open for, then play with the Big Star er Thief

Buck Meek - Live at The Studio at The Factory, Deep Ellum, Dallas, TX 2/12/2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-PSK8U6DfM

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:34 (two years ago)

yas?

an American musician from Wimberley, Texas, best known as the guitarist and backing vocalist of Big Thief.

#buckmeek

00:00 Cannonball! Pt. 2
04:40 Haunted Mountain
09:58 Pareidolia
14:33 Where You're Coming From
18:53 Second Sight
24:05 Paradise
27:41 Secret Life
32:20 The Undae Dunes
34:54 Stories
40:30 Sam Bridges (with Adrianne Lenker)

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

Just now learned that he plays in Shadow Kingdom. Main way now to see it seems to be on pbs.org, though you gotta sign up and get that Passport app (get to watch a lot of other, of course). I saw it during fundraiser (they didn't interrupt with membership pitches): mostly real good, with a few that sounded too slow on the audio-only (now CD/LP)improved by visuals; all the guitar is good for sure.

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

Sign up and donate, that is. I'm a noob to all this, didn't know about Two Saviors (& wasn't he invited to be on My Rough and Rowdy Ways?
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/big-thiefs-buck-meek-announces-new-album-two-saviors-shares-second-sight/

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:00 (two years ago)

As it turns out, he didn’t actually play on Shadow Kingdom, though he was one of the musicians that “finger synched” in the video recording along with the previously recorded tracks:

Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, harmonica
Alex Burke, guitar (Finger synching)
Buck Meek, guitar (Finger synching)
Shahzad Ismaily, accordion (Finger synching)
Janie Cowan, upright bass (Finger synching)
Joshua Crumbly, guitar (Finger synching)

The actual recording personnel, though not listed anywhere, is believed to have been:

Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, harmonica
Jeff Taylor – accordion
Greg Leisz – guitar, pedal steel guitar, mandolin
Tim Pierce – guitar
T-Bone Burnett – guitar
Ira Ingber – guitar
Don Was – upright bass
John Avila – electric bass
Doug Lacy – accordion
Steve Bartek – additional acoustic guitar

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:24 (two years ago)

Weird. Thanks!

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

Whaaaat

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:35 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1lnubtQvOQ

this "dragon" is fantastic but lmao they're really into those goofy autotune backing vocals right now huh

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:11 (two years ago)

looking forward to the next album going full bon iver

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:12 (two years ago)

What a strange effect… is James triggering/playing that somehow? Yeah the performance is awesome though.

(I offered to buy my dad tickets to that show, but admission was GA only and that didn’t really work)

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:21 (two years ago)

james' backing vocals are being fed through a bunch of effects including autotune yeah

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:24 (two years ago)

i'm seeing them friday evening, will report back on goofy autotune use

Clay, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:42 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WmyWQPxMus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwd8iJ1uhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILvivIkUic8

seems like they were in a really jammy mood at that show

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 10:04 (two years ago)

They are some excellent performances, thanks for sharing

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 3 August 2023 11:13 (two years ago)

The way the crowd cheers when the first jaw harp note is struck on "Spud"...

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Thursday, 3 August 2023 16:25 (two years ago)

I'd like to post the lyrics that someone transcribed for that "Real House" song (above), b/c they're just so good:

* * *

Do you remember running?
The purity of the air around
Braiding low branches into a crown
That love is all I want

I'm a child humming
Into the purity of the black space
Where stars shine like tears on the night's face
In a cool wind

Mama, what happened?
Never thought we'd go this long
Now 31 and I don’t feel strong
And your love is all I want

When I was 7
I saw the first film that made me scared
And I thought of this whole world ending
I thought of dying unprepared

We moved into a real house
A wild field behind it
I wanted to be an inventor
Collected scraps to make a portal
I wanted so much for magic to be real

So many dreams of flying
Rising high over the crowd
And they go “oh man, look at her go”
And I go

Do you remember
Coming to the hospital when I was 14?
My friends all left me there spinning
Dad was angry and you saw everything
And you made me laugh as the nurses undressed me
You held my hand as they put the needle in me

I never saw you cry
Not until our dog died
And our whole family came back together
We held her body as they put the needle in her
And then I saw you cry
And then I saw you cry

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Thursday, 3 August 2023 19:47 (two years ago)

Listening just now to "Vampire Empire," which has been released as a single. Great stuff, again.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 01:14 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpbuEvZvkM

it's a great song but this recording doesn't quite have the energy of some of the live versions, just a little bit more laid back

ufo, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:45 (two years ago)

Not available in this hemisphere until it's officially Wednesday, but looking forward to hearing it.

Taylor Swift Reporter (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:05 (two years ago)

...and it sounds really nice, as expected. Laid back, for sure.

Btw – a friend mentioned that fans on Reddit were upset at "Vampire Empire" not just for the absence of flute, but also removal of the boldface phrases below from the lyrics (when compared to the song as performed on Fallon and maybe other live settings):

I am empty 'til she fills, alive until she kills
In her vampire empire, I am the fish and she's my gills
Falling, yeah

(...)

Well, I walked into your dagger for the last time in a row
It's like trying to start a fire with matches in the snow
Where you can't seem to hold me, can't seem to let me go

I can see why Adrianne may have considered those bits to be awkward or unnecessary (e.g., what does "last time in a row" mean, exactly); though I understand how their removal makes for "incomplete rhymes." Anyway, I don't think the song suffers greatly without them...

Taylor Swift Reporter (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:20 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

https://www.reddit.com/r/bigthief/comments/16ihrhi/news_from_buck_about_big_thief/

some news:
-they plan for the next album they record to be 'violent, distorted and screamed' and don't expect the recent unreleased live songs to fit with the concept
-they're going to spend 6 months writing songs for that next album soon, and are taking a year off from touring
-new adrianne solo album coming soon
-they're still thinking about putting out some unreleased material (probably from the dwnmibyi sessions?) as a stop gap while they work on their next album

ufo, Saturday, 30 September 2023 02:11 (two years ago)

All cool… hope they do that last thing!

Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Saturday, 30 September 2023 02:24 (two years ago)

it sounds like we can probably expect the adrianne solo album in january or so

ufo, Saturday, 30 September 2023 02:39 (two years ago)

A little surprising they would decide on the sound of a new album before even writing it, let alone getting into the studio… from past interviews, I had the sense that they followed a much more “organic” method of finding each album’s particular voice.

Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Saturday, 30 September 2023 03:01 (two years ago)

they plan for the next album they record to be 'violent, distorted and screamed'

Lost Somewhere Between the New Warm Mountain and My Home

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Saturday, 30 September 2023 21:18 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Today, Adrianne Lenker (of Big Thief) announces a new online songwriting workshop through School of Song. The course will be taught online via live Zoom lectures across 4 consecutive Sundays –– January 7th, January 14th, January 21st, and January 28 –– with 2 lecture sessions on each class day to accommodate different time zones: 11 AM PT and 6 PM PT. Recorded lectures will be available and sent out afterwards for those who are unable to attend at those times.


SIGN UP FOR THE WORKSHOP
https://schoolofsong.org/

Every week, Adrianne will give a lecture on subjects specific to her songwriting process. Each class will result in a homework assignment to write a song using the techniques discussed in the lecture. In addition to the lectures, there will be weekly song-sharing sessions composed of peer review and an additional hour of live Q&A with Adrianne.

The cost of the workshop is $160 total, and a 20% discount is available for those who sign up with a friend. The deadline to sign up is Saturday, January 6th at 11:59 PM PT. The course is geared towards anyone with an interest in songwriting in general or Adrianne’s process in particular, from absolute beginners to seasoned songwriters. There are no prerequisites to sign up, but having an instrument that you know how to play a few chords on will be helpful if you want to complete the assignments.

Course Description:
In Adrianne Lenker's songwriting workshop, we will begin with the understanding that songs emerge from an ever-mysterious source within us – our subconscious, our inner child, magic, the universe. Our primary task as songwriters is to ensure this source remains unblocked and unhindered. This workshop will cover how Adrianne navigates this unblocking process throughout all facets of life to get back to the place where songs come from.

Building upon this open foundation, we delve into song craft, touching on key elements of Adrianne’s approach. We'll explore how open tunings can transform the guitar into a landscape of drones and bass lines, welcoming resonant melodies to emerge. We’ll consider how various guitar techniques (e.g. strummed cowboy chords, fingerpicking) affect the expression of the songwriter's identity. Lyrically, we'll examine the process of drawing from personal experiences to create lyrics that balance the specific with the universal. Throughout the workshop, students will learn to write lyrics that highlight the beauty and magic often overlooked in our daily existence, revealing the depth that lies beneath the veneer of the mundane.

Join us in January as Adrianne gives our community insight into her process. You will leave the course with several new original songs of your own, and with new connections to fellow songwriters all over the world.

For more information, contact: Jacob Daneman | Pitch Perfect PR -
jacob at pitchperfectpr.com

dow, Thursday, 16 November 2023 03:14 (two years ago)

Buck Meek's album Haunted Mountain is quite different from Big Thief but very enjoyable. Title track is a favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8uI2VXppA

corrs unplugged, Saturday, 18 November 2023 09:38 (two years ago)

first single from adrianne's new album out on tuesday

ufo, Friday, 1 December 2023 22:51 (two years ago)

here's the single, "ruined"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iypx43W_YRg

it's lovely, interesting to hear her on piano. a rather different arrangement to the version big thief were playing earlier this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJPMZb_mls

ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:12 (two years ago)

lol whenever james does those autotuned pitch-shifted backing vocals it's so goofy

ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

album is apparently bright future which means we can expect this will be on it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTS83wW0Oa0

ufo, Monday, 4 December 2023 21:50 (two years ago)


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