no Play For Today? just love how that builds and builds to something incredible at the end
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:25 (ten months ago) link
No, not very keen on it. But I feel that I have never really managed to get the measure of the second half of that LP. And I have played it a lot!
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:26 (ten months ago) link
(fwiw I think I prefer the Cure song of that name.)
that's also one of my favourite cure songs
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link
also a fan of the tv series
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:29 (ten months ago) link
cat with the cream really is wonderful
― devvvine, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:30 (ten months ago) link
Yes great TV series for sure! :D
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:33 (ten months ago) link
devvvine: 'cat with the cream' is a really unusual song, quite mysterious, quite slow burning, a complex construction, and even in its lyric its meanings seem ambiguous. But I think it may be the most ambitious, accomplished and stimulating work on that LP.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:34 (ten months ago) link
Still, I see B&S as Murdoch’s band, and its decline runs parallel with Murdoch’s retreat from Glasgow’s hipster community into staid domestic stability.
― enochroot, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:59 (ten months ago) link
xp indeed, a very promising road absolutely not taken from what i've heard from the last few records
― devvvine, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link
Enochroot's top 10 B&S songs since 2010:
A Bit of PreviousJuliet NakedWorking Boy in New York CityUnnecessary DramaI Want The World To StopPlay For TodayDo It For Your CountryNobody's EmpireEvery Day's A Lesson in HumilityI'll Be Your Pilot
― enochroot, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:07 (ten months ago) link
I tried to come up with a top 10 since 2010, but I could only manage 7 tracks (which gives a good idea of when I lost interest, though I still torrent each new release).
Born to ActLittle Lou, Ugly Jack, Prophet JohnSunday’s Pretty IconsI Want the World to StopThe Ghost of RockschoolEnter Sylvia PlathPlay for Today
― Melomane, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:25 (ten months ago) link
"Come On Sister" (ctrl-f: 0 results) is not only one of their best post-2010 but I'd slot it comfortably in their all-time top 10.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:30 (ten months ago) link
I don't even know some of those.
And I don't think I knew there was a song called 'a bit of previous' !
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:32 (ten months ago) link
The quality of their releases also correlates with who they chose to put on the cover of the album/EP: friends >>> models >>> fans
It correlates with their cover art in general. In 2014 I read one of those DIY articles "How to hang vinyl records on your wall" and I hung up all of B&S’s albums and most of their EPs. Visitors to my home loved it. But then Girls in Peacetime came out and there was no way I was going to display that shit.
― Melomane, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 18:36 (ten months ago) link
I thought the last two LP covers were a slight step up in quality.some classic era singles and EPs have crap covers - Dog On Wheels, I'm Waking Up To Us, Jonathan David
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:42 (ten months ago) link
Not sure I agree with the view that B&S cover art has declined.
Is WRITE ABOUT LOVE much worse than SINISTER? Both are nice.
Unlike poster Camaraderie, I find that DOG ON WHEELS has a magnificent cover - perhaps the most charming in their career.
But then TBWTAS itself has a cover that has always put me off, an ugly picture that says little about the contents and is only redeemed by the deep green cover.
And I'm not sure that the FOLD YOUR HANDS cover is better than THE LIFE PURSUIT.
Maybe more recent 'display the fans' is poor but then LATE DEVELOPERS (which I've never seen in reality) feels like an ep cover from 20+ years earlier.
Overall I think the covers have maintained quite a lot of continuity while also all looking different from each other (due to the colours).
― the pinefox, Thursday, 20 July 2023 06:59 (ten months ago) link
A point that in Sinister List days would have been massively discussed and now maybe never has been:
'If They're Shooting At You' deliberately reuses the melody and chords of the bridge of 'Poor Boy' for its bridge or maybe pre-chorus.
It's a rare case of a songwriter flagrantly repeating the same musical material and presumably feeling it was OK do so. Maybe because few remember 'Poor Boy' anyway.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 20 July 2023 14:43 (ten months ago) link