ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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I really tried to like this. I've gone back to the CD store and put this on, trying to convince myself to buy it, but I always loose interest after about 2 and half songs. I also remember having a burn of it when it came out, and playing it at work over and over - only to get very annoyed with it. Not sure why that is, because it seems pleasant enough.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the other thing is knowing Gimix and their other mixes so well which feel like extensions of the album and their thinking behind it, to the point where it just stops being an album to my mind altogether (which i find a very good thing in this decade).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Great record. Try to get the original Australian edition with the illegal samples (Midnight Run!)

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Does Gimix really sync up w/it THAT WELL? Cos if it does I'll just make it myself (I'd rather not)

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I've had an experience similar to dleone's. For all SILY gets championed as an album, I really just like the singles. Every time I've tried to listen to the whole thing it bored me.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i deeply love every record from #10 up so far!!!

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

even and especially the interpol which is so bright and shinily produced and has better tunes than the kitchens of distinction and has those pretty shimmery guitar lines and has lyrics that are openly unapologetically memorably awful and i played it more than any rock album let alone indie rock since um what? (ans: dolittle in high school i think)

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i had to live with SILY for a while before it made sense to love it. it took the entirety of a summer vacation and one cold winter night.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i used to think since i left you was a summer record but now i actually think it's a winter record because the vinyl beat diggin aesthetic sounds like the memory of warmth

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

An album for all seasons (it came out in the Winter here anyway)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I have the opposite reaction to Dan. SILY was my #1 single but the album I find just too hectoring to enjoy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 4

Points: 1056
No. of votes: 50
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: DIZZEE RASCAL
Title: BOY IN DA CORNER
Label: XL
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/boyindacorner.jpg

This was only the most written about record in the blogosphere/ILM boards ever and I\'m under no illusion that I\'ve got anything meaningful to add after all of that other than it's my number one choice because I was genuinely, metaphorically knocked over by Dizzee's sound in a way I hadn't been since I just started getting into music as a youngster. JoB

Recommended tracks: I Luv U, Stop Dat, Brand New Day, Hold Ya Mouf

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Dizzee sweeps the #4 spot!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

no podium place for little Dylan :(

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You could do Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Tin

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Where the fuck is Is This It??? And Parachutes???

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hopefully burning on a gigantic pile of shit.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

not nominated, I think. Pretty sure I woulda voted for Is This It if it was there.

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I'm slightly upset that Kish Kash placed higher than Rooty.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

so untrue. so, so untrue.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

No, very very true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come on they are within two spots of one another. Like it really matters (FWIW I like Kish Kash better as an album too.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_.

Perhaps, but Rooty meant / means way more to me.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.
-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), August 27th, 2004.


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so untrue. so, so untrue.
-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), August 27th, 2004.


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No, very very true.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 27th, 2004.

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Basement Jaxx=overrated! And I even heard an entire CD by them, not just five second samples. (I would like to give Kish Kash a try though.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't got Rooty, as I said, but from the tracks off it that I do know, it sounds lot less song-oriented and rock-textured than Kish Kash. Is that fair?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 3

Points: 1287
No. of votes: 56
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: ORIGINAL PIRATE MATERIAL
Label: Locked On
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/originalpiratematerial.jpg

Original Pirate Material is as much England's first great hip-hop album as it is its last great music hall album. It's also the best 2-tone album since the Beat went bad, and Ian Dury via Rhythm Division. It's every cliché you've heard so far, and then a few more piled on top. The fact that it survives this blitz at all is testament to Mike Skinners' very real skillz: language, delivery, rhythm, inflection. If it seems slight now compared to its superior sequel, that's a bit like comparing an author's (for he is) collection of early short stories to the novel. The fourteen slices of life on OPM are still very rich places to revisit. And compared to the ultra-spare backings of the new album, the music has far more depth than I remember: the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," the weird ambient rustles at the beginning of "It's Too Late," the gnarled as old shoe leather orchestral loops in "Geezer's Need Excitement", the cheesy incidental garridge of "Who Got The Funk?", the "Fit But You Know It" prototype Madness/Jam chug of "Don't Mug Yourself", the Disco Inferno-ish feel of "Has It Come To This?". As for the words, if I started quoting, I'd be here all night, but special shout out to "we first me through a shared view/she loved me and I did too", a bit of amazingly subtle self-absorption that never really draws attention to itself even though it's the lynchpin on which "It's Too Late" (and maybe the album itself) spins on. Mike Skinner wasn't writing about the everyman. It's just fourteen versions of himself. He just happens to live like common people, doing whatever common people do. Jess

Recommended tracks: Turn The Page, Has It Come To This, It's Too Late, Weak Become Heroes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

The minimal is maximal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

At this point there's no way that Basement Jaxx COULDN'T be seen as overrated, considering that they've been painted as dance messiahs.

(BTW "overall" is a copout that means "okay, of the songs on the two albums maybe my two favorites are on _Rooty_ but the next 6 are on _Kish Kash_".)

(xxpost NOW TALK ABOUT OVERRATED GAAAAAAH)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What a showdown for the last two though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Radiohead will beat Daft Punk, won't they? I just know they sodding will.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Kid A vs. Discovery, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

In the world series of love.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh jesus.

Well, I said that they had even odds, so it's a coin toss--the personification of the "ILM taste" vs. the personification of the critical hivemind. Will good triumph over evil? Does it matter which album is better? Can I say here that Kid A was my #1?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

whatta nailbiter!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

... the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," ...
I think I've learned a new word today!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

/me cover eyes, peers through fingers, unable to stop watching the slo-mo car crash

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

kid a will win all the telltale warning signs are there

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

is it gonna be florida all over again?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope its that close

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

funny how both the "ilm taste" and "critical hivemind" picks are really good records

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I will grant "Weak Become Heroes" and "Don't Mug Yourself" but otherwise there's a sparseness on _OPM_ that I find completely, totally, absolutely off-putting. Kick it in the nuts!

(xpost at this point I hope _Kid A_ wins because it is hands down a better album than _Discovery_, which is yet another example of ILM taking a decent album and elevating it to undeserved godhood)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it might be in Stevem's best interests to put Radiohead at #2 no matter who actually won.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

all great albums are decent albums elevated to undeserved godhood

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

This is true but some albums are more undeserving than others.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

some girls are bigger than others!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think both albums are totally worthy of #1.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)


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