NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES BOX: IT'S REALLY HAPPENING

Neil Young likes the Beach Boys.

― tylerw, Thursday, May 18, 2023 6:16 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I wonder if they hold some totemic value for him as avatars of the Southern CA myth that he bought into on some level.

I mean he wouldn't be the first or last of that era's rock ppl to have an admiration for Brian Wilson's songwriting

I haven't found any live acoustic shows that I like all the way through---if solo, the guitar can be so out of tune that even I can tell.

Are any of the bootleg series crucial? I like Neil a lot and I've got both the archives and most of the classic era live albums. I'm assuming that the boots are for hardcore fans that don't mind a lot of redundancy.

― Cow_Art, Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:12 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Way Down in the Rust Bucket for sure

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, March 4, 2023 4:13 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

No names in "Cocaine Eyes" that I can see.

avatars of the Southern CA myth that he bought into on some level.

xxp Live at the Filmore East has my definitive take of “Cowgirl in the Sand”

oh yeah Fillmore East is so crucial I realize I've stopped thinking about it as an Archive release

Buffalo Springfield played like 100 shows with the Beach Boys, Neil was tight with Dennis Wilson for a while ...

looks like he's having the time of his life here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp97Hijkd10

anyway, i don't think the "long may you run" reference is meant as a "lol the beach boys moment"

and it's a bit sad. i love crazy horse, love the lizard brain caveman energy but there was something about danny whitten version, just having another guy more on neil's level who could push him a bit.

He liked the Beach Boys enough to use "Let's Go Away for Awhile" as the closing theme to Journey Through the Past, and then to put it on the soundtrack album.

archives releases that i most rate: way down in the rust bucket, a treasure, tuscaloosa, tonight's the night at the roxy, and weirdly maybe return to greendale.

also Disc 6 from Archives II, that incredible "Old Homestead" disc - not exactly a standalone but I wish it was

anyway, i don't think the "long may you run" reference is meant as a "lol the beach boys moment"

Agreed! My point was The Bottom Line crowd thinks it is, but Neil is a tru head.

sleeve, I'm sure I listened to Disc 6 at some point, but it didn't grab me as much as Disc 8 (Dume). That one is just incredible to me - I don't think the Powderfinger is better than the released version, but I might like the sound of it better.

But I will listen to Disc 6 tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYbkISdwVYU

Neil was tight with Dennis Wilson for a while

Had a mutual friend with a beard, I think.

epic update from Neil about archives vol 3 (now due out next summer it seems ...). Info nabbed from here: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/neil-young-launches-online-archives-1st-december-2017.688177/page-921

Across the Water, Part 1 and 2: a two disc set ("albums and movies") that represents the '76 tour previously covered by Odeon-Budokan. He mentioned it contains songs from Odeon-Budokan, his shows in Hammersmith, Glasgow, and "somewhere else which I can't remember."

Hitchhikin' Judy: this covers the fall '76 tour ("which was a solo opening and then an intermission and then Crazy Horse'). He wasn't clear on if it contains both the solo acoustic performances and the CH performances, or even if any of the songs that appear on Hitchhiker (or anything else from this era) will appear.

Snapshot in Time: The "audio verite" audio documentary of him rehearsing with Nicolette and Linda before they began recording the songs that are on side B of American Stars 'N' Bars (a version of "Barefoot Floors" is supposed to be one of the tracks here).

Windward Passage: A live album of Ducks songs recorded live in Santa Cruz

Oceanside/Countryside: The album he made before Comes a Time that he recorded solo acoustic before overdubbing additional guitars. There's 12 tracks (of which only "1 or 2 that have surfaced" previously). Many of the original versions of the songs that are on Comes a Time can be found here.

Union Hall: the Give to the Wind Orchestra rehearsal for their show in Miami.

Boarding House 1 and Boarding House 2: now a two disc set, with Boarding House 2 including his session with DEVO that he did in the afternoon before one of his shows at the venue

Sedan Delivery: covers the Rust Never Sleeps period, but "it's different tracks selected from RNS," and it has a "wacky cover."

Coastline: covers the Hawks & Doves and Re-ac-tor era from July 1980-July 1981. It has "a lot of songs on it."

Trans EP and Johnny's Island: another two disc set. The Trans EP will be the vocodor tracks from the album isolated on their own ("it takes you to that place and you stay there").

Evolution: covers Jan 83-Jan 84.

Touch the Night: a compilation of the two shows from Feb 7th, 1984 with Crazy Horse.

Grey Riders: another two disc set that covers June 1984-September 1985.

Road of Plenty: It seems like the focus has shifted to covering the Landing on Water/Life period, based on the tracks Neil mentioned
​
Summer Songs: This closes out the set.

...wow

dang, neil!

thanks for passing that on tylerw! is there anything in there that's particularly unheard or unannounced before? hitchhikin' judy sounds great to me

a ton of stuff that's unheard ... most of this had been mentioned over the years by Neil, but it was always unclear what would actually be included. This seems to be a more or less finalized plan ... the idea of more DEVO stuff is amazing, but I'm not sure whether it'll just be the "Hey Hey My My" that we've already heard. Would be cool if they did "Sedan Delivery," seems like a no-brainer to me.

yow! go Neil go!

I think archives 1 got reissued recently if anyone cares

holy shit!

Trans EP and Johnny's Island: another two disc set. The Trans EP will be the vocodor tracks from the album isolated on their own ("it takes you to that place and you stay there").

so I'm a little bummed out by this -- and please correct me if I'm misremembering tyler -- but i sweat in shakey mcdonough refers to the fact that there were more synth songs that were left off of trans in favor of the conventional rock stuff...i specifically remember a mention of a synth "razor love" which later surfaced on silver + gold

do you remember that?

i think the synth "razor love" was from later — I'm guessing it'll be on that disc entitled "Evolution"

ahh interesting, i figured i misremembered

Yow!

I listened to the Dume disc off of Archives II while driving up the coast and visiting Topanga Beach, Point Dume/Zuma Beach, and El Matador State Beach. Really great music and setting experience. It's put me on a big Neil kick.

I was listening to Somewhere Under the Rainbow, the "official" bootleg of a Tonight's the Night show from England. Neil gives all the regular Miami Beach raps, but he goes on an extended rap about how Bruce Berry lost a guitar and he fired him which leads to his death and overdose. Is Neil transposing what happened with Danny Whitten (sent him home from the tour) to Bruce Berry? Regardless, it's devastating.

According to Shakey, Bruce Berry stole a strat from David Crosby during the Byrds reunion in '73, and Crosby--who'd been led to believe that Berry had it together--fired him. Berry later overdosed on some bad heroin he'd acquired as part of coke deal he set up for another (unnamed) Rock star.

There's a similar story about Danny Whitten stealing a battered acoustic from Danny Hutton from Three Dog Night, who was extra-angry because that was the guitar he'd written his first hit with.

I forgot that from Shakey - it's been a long time since I read it. But given that it's Crosby that fired Berry, it doesn't make sense that Neil is feeling guilty. This is from the Whitten wiki:

Whitten lagged behind, figuring out the rhythm parts, though never in sync with the rest of the group. Young, who had more at stake after the success of After the Gold Rush and Harvest, fired him from the band on November 18, 1972. He gave Whitten $50 ($364 in 2023) and a plane ticket back to Los Angeles. Later that night Whitten died from ingesting a combination of diazepam, which he was taking for severe knee arthritis, and alcohol, which he was using to try to get over his heroin addiction.

Which is almost exactly the story that Neil gives in his rap about Berry, but replacing Whitten not being able to play guitar with Berry losing a guitar. Innaresting.

the 73 byrds reunion didn't tour at all so not sure where Berry was supposed to be stealing from, the studio or Crosby's house? maybe from a Crosby/Nash gig around the same time?

Iirc, it was in the studio during the album sessions, as Berry had been hired as Crosby's personal tech/roadie.

it's all in a short paragraph here btw

So Volume III has officially shown up on a Warner Brothers Australian site... it's real.

https://store.warnermusic.com.au/products/neil-young-archives-vol-iii-17-cd-box-set

Big book and price point makes it look like the deluxe version we saw for Volume II. Hoping a slimmed down retail version comes for this one too.

tracklist:

NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES VOL III Tracklisting:
Disc 1: Across The Water I (1976) Neil Young & Crazy Horse
1. Let It Shine (previously unreleased live version)
2. Mellow My Mind (previously unreleased live version)
3. Too Far Gone (previously unreleased live version)
4. Only Love Can Break Your Heart (previously unreleased live version)
5. A Man Needs a Maid (previously unreleased live version)
6. No One Seems to Know (previously unreleased live version)
7. Heart Of Gold (previously unreleased live version)
8. Country Home (previously unreleased live version)
9. Don't Cry No Tears (previously unreleased live version)
10. Cowgirl in the Sand (previously unreleased mix)
11. Lotta Love (previously unreleased live version)
12. The Losing End (When You’re On) (previously unreleased live version)
13. Southern Man (previously unreleased live version)
14. Cortez the Killer (previously unreleased live version)
Disc 2: Across The Water II (1976): Neil Young & Crazy Horse
1. Human Highway (previously unreleased live version)
2. The Needle And The Damage Done (previously unreleased live version)
3. Stringman (previously unreleased mix)
4. Down By The River (previously unreleased live version)
5. Like a Hurricane (previously unreleased live version)
6. Drive Back (previously unreleased live version)
7. Cortez the Killer (previously unreleased live version)
8. Homegrown (previously unreleased live version)

Disc 3: Hitchhikin’ Judy (1976-1977): Neil Young
1. Rap
2. Powderfinger (previously released on Hitchhiker)
3. Captain Kennedy (previously released on Hawks & Doves, Hitchhiker and Hawks & Doves)
4. Hitchhiker (previously released on Hitchhiker)
5. Give Me Strength (previously released on Hitchhiker)
6. The Old Country Waltz (previously released on Hitchhiker)
7. Rap
8. Too Far Gone (previously released on Songs For Judy)
9. White Line (previously released on Songs For Judy)
10. Mr. Soul (previously released on Songs For Judy)
11. A Man Needs A Maid (previously released on Songs For Judy)
12. Journey Through the Past (previously released on Songs For Judy)
13. Campaigner (previously released on Songs For Judy)
14. The Old Laughing Lady (previously released on Songs For Judy)
15. The Losing End (When You’re On) (previously released on Songs For Judy)
16. Rap
17. Helpless (previously released on The Last Waltz)
18. Four Strong Winds (previously released on The Last Waltz (2002 edition))
19. Rap
20. Will To Love (previously released on American Stars ‘n Bars and Chrome Dreams)
21. Lost In Space (previously unreleased original)

Disc 4: Snapshot In Time (1977): Neil Young with Nicolette Larson & Linda Ronstadt
1. Rap
2. Hold Back The Tears (previously released on Chrome Dreams)
3. Rap
4. Long May You Run (previously unreleased version)
5. Hey Babe (previously unreleased version)
6. The Old Country Waltz (previously unreleased version)
7. Hold Back the Tears (previously unreleased version)
8. Peace of Mind (previously unreleased version)
9. Sweet Lara Larue (previously unreleased version)
10. Bite the Bullet (previously unreleased version)
11. Saddle Up the Palomino (previously unreleased version)
12. Star of Bethlehem (previously unreleased version)
13. Bad News Comes To Town (previously unreleased version)
14. Motorcycle Mama (previously unreleased version)
15. Rap
16. Hey Babe (previously released on American Stars N Bars)
17. Rap
18. Barefoot Floors (previously unreleased version)

Disc 5: Windward Passage (1977) The Ducks
1. Rap
2. I Am A Dreamer (previously released on High Flyin’)
3. Sail Away (previously unreleased original)
4. Wide Eyed and Willin' (previously released on High Flyin’)
5. I’m Tore Down (previously released on High Flyin’)
6. Little Wing (previously released on High Flyin’)
7. Hey Now (previously released on High Flyin’)
8. Windward Passage (previously unreleased edit)
9. Cryin' Eyes (previously unreleased original)

Disc 6: Oceanside Countryside (1977): Neil Young
1. Rap
2. Field of Opportunity (previously unreleased mix)
3. It Might Have Been (previously unreleased version)
4. Dance Dance Dance (previously unreleased version)
5. Rap
6. Pocahontas (previously unreleased mix)
7. Peace of Mind (previously unreleased mix)
8. Sail Away (previously unreleased mix)
9. Human Highway (previously unreleased mix)
10. Comes A Time (previously unreleased version)
11. Lost In Space (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
12. Goin’ Back (previously unreleased mix)
Disc 7: Neil Young & Nicolette Larson Union Hall (1977):
1. Comes A Time (previously released on Comes A Time)
2. Love/Art Blues (previously unreleased version)
3. Rap
4. Are You Ready For the Country? (previously unreleased version)
5. Dance Dance Dance/Love is a Rose (previously unreleased version)
6. Old Man (previously unreleased version)
7. The Losing End (When You're On) (previously unreleased version)
8. Heart Of Gold (previously unreleased version)
9. Already One (previously unreleased version)
10. Lady Wingshot (previously unreleased song)
11. Four Strong Winds (previously unreleased version)
12. Down By The River (previously unreleased version)
13. Alabama (previously unreleased version)
14. Are You Ready For the Country? (reprise) (previously unreleased version)
15. Rap
16. We’re Having Some Fun Now (previously unreleased song)
17. Rap
18. Please Help Me, I'm Falling (previously unreleased version)
19. Motorcycle Mama (previously released on Comes A Time)

Disc 8: Boarding House I (1978): Neil Young
1. Rap
2. Shots (previously unreleased live version)
3. Thrasher (previously unreleased live version)
4. The Ways of Love (previously unreleased live version)
5. Ride My Llama (previously unreleased live version)
6. Sail Away (previously unreleased live version)
7. Pocahontas (previously unreleased live version)
8. Human Highway (previously unreleased live version)
9. Already One (previously unreleased live version)
10. Birds (previously unreleased live version)
11. Cowgirl in the Sand (previously unreleased live version)
12. Sugar Mountain (previously unreleased live version)
13. Powderfinger (previously unreleased live version)
14. Comes a Time (previously unreleased live version)

Disc 9: Devo & Boarding House II (1978): Neil Young and Devo
1. Rap
2. Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black) (previously unreleased version)
3. Back to the Boarding House
4. My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue) (previously unreleased live version)
5. Homegrown (previously unreleased live version)
6. Down by the River (previously unreleased live version)
7. After the Gold Rush (previously unreleased live version)
8. Out Of My Mind (previously unreleased live version)
9. Dressing Room

Disc 10: Sedan Delivery (1978): Neil Young with Crazy Horse
1. Bright Sunny Day (previously unreleased song)
2. The Loner (previously released on Live Rust)
3. Welfare Mothers (previously released on Rust Never Sleeps)
4. Lotta Love (previously released on Live Rust)
5. Sedan Delivery (previously released on Rust Never Sleeps)
6. Cortez the Killer (previously released on Live Rust)
7. Tonight's the Night (previously released on Live Rust)
8. Powderfinger (previously released on Rust Never Sleeps)
9. When You Dance, I Can Really Love (previously released on Live Rust)
10. Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black) (previously released on Rust Never Sleeps)

Disc 11: Coastline (1980-1981): Neil Young
1. Coastline (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
2. Stayin’ Power (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
3. Hawks And Doves (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
4. Comin' Apart at Every Nail (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
5. Union Man (previously released on Hawks & Doves)
6. Winter Winds (previously unreleased song)
7. Southern Pacific (previously released on RE-AC-TOR.)
8. Opera Star (previously released on RE-AC-TOR.)
9. Rapid Transit (previously released on RE-AC-TOR.)
10. Sunny Inside (previously unreleased original)
11. Surfer Joe and Moe the Sleaze (previously released on RE-AC-TOR.)
12. Get Up (previously unreleased song)

Disc 12: Trans (1981); Johnny’s Island (1982): Neil Young
1. Rap
2. Sample and Hold (previously released on Trans)
3. Mr. Soul (previously released on Trans)
4. Computer Cowboy (previously released on Trans)
5. We R In Control (previously released on Trans)
6. Computer Age (previously released on Trans)
7. Transformer Man (previously released on Trans)
8. Rap
9. Johnny (previously unreleased song)
10. Island In The Sun (previously unreleased song)
11. Rap
12. Silver & Gold (previously unreleased version)
13. If You Got Love (previously unreleased version)
14. Raining in Paradise (previously unreleased song)
15. Big Pearl (previously unreleased song)
16. Hold On To Your Love (previously released on Trans)
17. Soul Of A Woman (previously unreleased original)
18. Rap
19. Love Hotel (previously unreleased song)

Disc 13: Evolution (1983-1984): Neil Young
1. California Sunset (previously unreleased original)
2. My Boy (previously unreleased original)
3. Old Ways (previously unreleased version)
4. Depression Blues (previously released on Lucky 13)
5. Cry, Cry, Cry (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
6. Mystery Train (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
7. Payola Blues (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
8. Betty Lou's Got A New Pair Of Shoes (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
9. Bright Lights, Big City (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
10. Rainin' In My Heart (previously released on Everybody’s Rockin’)
11. Get Gone (previously unreleased original)
12. I Got A Problem (previously unreleased original)
13. Hard Luck Stories (previously unreleased original)
14. Your Love (previously unreleased version)
15. If You Got Love (previously unreleased version)
16. Razor Love (previously unreleased original)

Disc 14: Grey Riders (1984-1986): Neil Young with The International Harvesters
1. Amber Jean (previously unreleased original)
2. Get Back To The Country (previously unreleased original)
3. Are You Ready For The Country? (previously released on A Treasure)
4. It Might Have Been (previously released on A Treasure)
5. Bound For Glory (previously released on A Treasure)
6. Let Your Fingers Do the Walking (previously released on A Treasure)
7. Soul of a Woman (previously released on A Treasure)
8. Misfits (Dakota) (previously unreleased live version)
9. Nothing is Perfect (previously unreleased version)
10. Time Off For Good Behavior (previously unreleased song)
11. This Old House (previously unreleased original)
12. Southern Pacific (previously released on A Treasure)
13. Interstate (previously unreleased live version)
14. Grey Riders (previously released on A Treasure)

Disc 15: Touch The Night (1984): Neil Young with Crazy Horse
1. Rock (previously unreleased song)
2. So Tired (previously unreleased song)
3. Violent Side (previously unreleased live version)
4. I Got A Problem (previously unreleased live version)
5. Your Love (previously unreleased song)
6. Barstool Blues (previously unreleased live version)
7. Welfare Mothers (previously unreleased live version)
8. Touch The Night (previously unreleased live version)

Disc 16: Road Of Plenty (1984-1986): Neil Young
1. Drifter (previously released on Landing On Water)
2. Hippie Dream (previously released on Landing On Water)
3. Bad News Beat (previously released on Landing On Water)
4. People On The Street (previously released on Landing On Water)
5. Weight of the World (previously released on Landing On Water)
6. Pressure (previously released on Landing On Water)
7. Road of Plenty (previously unreleased song)
8. We Never Danced (previously unreleased original)
9. When Your Lonely Heart Breaks (previously unreleased original)

Disc 17: Summer Songs (1987): Neil Young
1. Rap
2. American Dream (previously unreleased original)
3. Someday (previously unreleased original)
4. For The Love Of Man (previously unreleased original)
5. One Of These Days (previously unreleased original)
6. Wrecking Ball (previously unreleased original)
7. Hangin On A Limb (previously unreleased original)
8. Name Of Love (previously unreleased original)
9. Last Of His Kind (previously unreleased original)
10. Rap

What are all those "Rap" tracks? Rambling between-song monologues from concerts?

It's Shakey To Rock A Rhyme
To Rock A Rhyme
It's Shakey

xp presumably

xp - yeah, he took to that naming convention awhile back on his live archival releases. mercifully many of them are brief and often probably not even necessary to index separately, but i'd imagine with a huge box like this it helps even more to up the count of "unreleased" tracks

lots to parse here, but glad to see some of the Devo stuff

rap vs. skit

Genuinely excited for more Trans era material

Notice they've left off any live TransBand stuff.

holy shit! awesome.

really looking to forward to the landing on water and life era tracks

Disc 8: Boarding House I (1978): Neil Young

2. Shots (previously unreleased live version)

^^this is so great hopefully the sound quality is cleaned up

also i believe tyler told me the "Razor Love" is the synth/Transy version

feels like even more previously released studio stuff than usual?

i'm glad i didn't buy songs for judy or a treasure previously

Feels pretty same to me on that front, but I haven't had time to really comb over the tracklist.

wow, also yay @ "Lady Wingshot"

i've heard this whole damn thing AMA