my deep apologies to the genre of Tropicalia, clearly my uninformed vote in this ilx poll has caused great harm to so many
― sarahell, Thursday, 18 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Thank you
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
Not the one that mixes yacht rock songwriting/singing with death metal drumming?
xp
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan)
i can't say for sure we're not talking about the same record!
Ok, I have a very clear memory of listening to this record online (and I think posting it somewhere to ILM), but now I can't find it anywhere and it's making me think I hallucinated it. I think Greg Fox was on drums???
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link
Tropicalia today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXX6L_fXuzk
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link
Just to say that I'm not a total ignoramus when it comes to this shit
fair enough. i have been to Brazil many times, heard lots and lots of Brazilian music from all eras, collaborated on music with, and then supported Os Mutantes and helped run a Brazilian reissue label, but would still consider myself pretty much a total ignoaramus simply by nature of the depth and volume of music that has been made and released there, which is truly breathtaking.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:47 (one year ago) link
hard bop is great!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Hard_Bop_%28album%29.jpg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link
music is pretty great.
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
if u gonna bop u better bop hard
― ian, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:53 (one year ago) link
bill evans looks like a member of kraftwerk, no idea why he’s not more hip
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link
engagement with a handful of artists and albums :
TropicaliaFree Jazz!!Musique ConcreteNorthern SoulPsychedelic/Acid FolkHard BopDubJapanese (Psych)GarageDancehall
more than a handful:
Classic Indie Rock (1980-2000???? argue w me here please)KrautrockIndustrial/Noise
no to minimal engagement, maybe one comp max:
Private Press Singer-SongwriterCountry BluesWest Coast Psychedelic RockEnglish FolkSka (original only)SalsaBoogaloo
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
Original ska is awesome
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
it's all awesome, mostloy, that's why it's so fun
― ian, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:02 (one year ago) link
btw is it Garage Rock or UK Garage?
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link
It's the Garage where they started Apple
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:07 (one year ago) link
hate to say to that unperson poster, but sorry, you're pretty dumb about brazilian music. if you say something as stupid as 'samba is soft', hate to tell you, you know shit.
― fpsa, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
which doesn't mean you can review albums by brazillian artists. just saying, be a bit more humble?
― fpsa, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
can't review, sorry
all music are bad
― fetter, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:18 (one year ago) link
Write in vote for British
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:24 (one year ago) link
which doesn't mean you can review albums by brazillian artists. just saying, be a bit more humble?― fpsa
― fpsa
turns out that unperson poster is actually actually jerry shirley, doesn't get much more humble than that
i do like hard bop but the thing i always think of is that my copy of john coltrane's "the olatunji concert" somehow got tagged as "hard bop". great hard bop record, that one.
Obscurity?― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes)
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes)
that's the thing, it's getting to the point where fukui is better-known among a certain demographic than evans is...
Ok, I have a very clear memory of listening to this record online (and I think posting it somewhere to ILM), but now I can't find it anywhere and it's making me think I hallucinated it. I think Greg Fox was on drums???― Random Restaurateur (Jordan)
nah i'm thinking of the newest fire-toolz record, the new liturgy record is really nice too tho (fox isn't on that one mind)
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:27 (one year ago) link
Yeah this was something else, it's driving me crazy
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
Genres missing:
Canadian novelty alt-rockSwedish K-PopNu-gaze90s Tribute Album RemixesSpoonman
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
the production on that O Pacto youtube xyzzzz posted is wild ... thank you!
― sarahell, Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
That's baile funk, which just keeps getting better.
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
thanking you kate for this all time scold-
LISTEN TO MORE BILL EVANS MOTHERFUCKERS
and unperson for that link!
(also small chuckle at bill evans getting brought up and the cliche "BUT HE DOESN'T SWING!!" retort almost immediately following. "things repeat forever and there never is a remedy")
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link
the worst industrial/noise is more unlistenable than the worst of anything else here, that's getting my vote
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link
ha I feel that exact same way about private press SSW stuff, by a wide margin (sorry ian)
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link
Fun fact:
"Now I didn't call the music I was doing `free jazz.' Someone [at the Atlantic record label] named it that, put a Jackson Pollock painting on it and called it `Free Jazz.'"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:36 (one year ago) link
11/10.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link
I always mean to dig for more new baile funk on soundcloud, but there are some gems in these threads:
baile funk - search and destroy
rolling baile funk 2021
― Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
maybe wrong thread, but anyone wanting to hear bill evans doing not "LOUNGE PIANO MUSIC" check out living time. it may confirm your hatred of not only bill evans, but also free jazz! hooray!
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
around the same time as _symbiosis_ with the claus ogerman orchestra which isn't as "free jazz" as _living time_ but isn't quite lounge.
to me bill evans isn't just "lounge piano music", he's lounge piano music suffused with as much pain and loss as, like, gloria ann taylor
ryo fukui otoh just kinda sounds like lounge piano music for the "lo-fi hip-hop beats" generation imo. that's probably not fair to him, i'm old.
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
harsh but fair imo
― budo jeru, Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
also thanks for the vanguarda paulista link
― budo jeru, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:00 (one year ago) link
idk how anybody expects to sustain a convo on a thread like this, i just sort of pop in and out
I sometimes collaborate with a Texan songwriter who lives in Maryland but who (I think by virtue of a diplomatic career) is decently well versed in Brazilian music and frequently writes and sings in Portuguese.
This may have been the only time I have combined bouzouki and bodhran, only to be completely drowned out by a lead triangle.
https://www.reverbnation.com/ceroe/song/32457769-bom-dia-neila
― sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
idk how anybody expects to sustain a convo on a thread like this, i just sort of pop in and out― budo jeru, Thursday, May 18, 2023 3:00 PM
― budo jeru, Thursday, May 18, 2023 3:00 PM
idk i kinda like it!
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link
and i appreciate kate's internet cult(ure)-informed thoughts because i willfully ignored all that shit forever and i can get the cliff's notes on shit like why "the kids" sleep on bill evans.
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link
(never heard fukui, checking out now. two tracks in and yeah these guys definitely dug sunday at the village vanguard)
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link
i'm not dissing the quality of (most) posts, i'm just saying i never have the fucking energy to keep track of it all
― budo jeru, Thursday, 18 May 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
ahhhhh, i'm old, "keeping track of it all" hasn't been a goal of mine for a while. i just pop in and obsessively track a thread for a day or so and then i get bored and ghost for a week or a month or six months.
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
the only way to do ilm afaic
― ꙮ (map), Friday, 19 May 2023 00:22 (one year ago) link
ha I feel that exact same way about private press SSW stuff, by a wide margin (sorry ian)― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:26 (yesterday) link
― broken breakbeat (sleeve), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:26 (yesterday) link
you don't need to apologize to me, buddy. the vast majority of that stuff is terrible! but like in all types of music there are plenty of lovely records.
― ian, Friday, 19 May 2023 00:29 (one year ago) link
"Japanese" free jazz
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 May 2023 08:29 (one year ago) link
jazz critics shitting on Bill Evans, now I've seen everything
Thank you for the laughs, message board
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 May 2023 12:18 (one year ago) link
Bill Evans rules
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 12:21 (one year ago) link
"jazz critics"
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 May 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link
A certain kind of Country Rock deserves mention here, I think - Gram Parsons, Gene Clark, Mike Nesmith, ppl like Townes Van Zandt, the more obscure stuff on the Numero Wayfaring Strangers series. Some overlap with the private press singer/songwriter stuff I guess.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 19 May 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link
Yeah that’s a viable choice. My personal gripe with that stuff is that people will gobble it up but ignore every $2 kris kristofferson record, say. Whatever!
― ian, Friday, 19 May 2023 13:00 (one year ago) link
Kristofferson rules. But yeah it's a genre where the uber hip and the uber not hip (Eagles, Linda Ronstad) rub shoulders.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 19 May 2023 13:04 (one year ago) link
Gram Parsons, Gene Clark, Mike Nesmith, ppl like Townes Van Zandt
these are all great though
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2023 13:08 (one year ago) link