I retract my comment about the Croatians!
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:48 (one year ago) link
Netta does not move like any human I've seen before
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
I’m glad they got Imagine out of the way first
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
The mirror father mirror performance of Whole Again I didn’t know I needed
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link
Cmon, I Turn To You is such a banger, don’t John Lewis it :(
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:52 (one year ago) link
Moldova, you mean? it’s total Ukraine/Go_A core, and that is of course great― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Saturday, 13 May 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Croatia
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:53 (one year ago) link
ah okay
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
Sonia's Better The Devil You Know, a reminder of 1993, when this fucking shit song was still one of the better ones in the competition.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:55 (one year ago) link
No way
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:57 (one year ago) link
You'll never walk Alone getting the performance it deserves
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
Ruslana!
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link
Now for the real #Eurovision2023 pic.twitter.com/uAQkIbVN0Z— James Benge (@jamesbenge) May 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
This is the first year in living memory that I think the UK song is pretty competent. It's been in my head since I heard it (maybe alternating with the Polish one)
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:12 (one year ago) link
so loreen has won this hasn't she?
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:19 (one year ago) link
the televote moodswings can be wild, with huge margins. have a feeling Finland might do big things there
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:30 (one year ago) link
loved the Iceland linkup
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link
Love too have solidarity for Ukraine and vote for...Israel
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
These jury votes are fucking shite. What the fuck is going on?
― emil.y, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:39 (one year ago) link
my sentiments exactly
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link
one thing is that they’re based on friday’s dress rehearsal, not on tonight’s performance
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
come on voters, fuck things up
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:49 (one year ago) link
Lol @ UK getting 9 points from the public. Less than Germany.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
ahaha go Norway
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:53 (one year ago) link
Spain got five points ugh
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link
oh fuck off, haha
― kinder, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:58 (one year ago) link
re Finland
At least one of the good ones got some points!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 22:59 (one year ago) link
Bah, Finland wuz robbed
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:02 (one year ago) link
Fucking bullshit!@!
― emil.y, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
Nonsense
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
Ugh
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:03 (one year ago) link
Ban jury votes
Only beat Finland due to the jury votes and people remembering her far superior Euphoria #Eurovision2023 pic.twitter.com/rzxV1iqsIs— Samplo Corvodina (@TreborRhurbarb) May 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link
backed 2nd 3rd and 4th ffs, blatant match fixing by the juries
― or something, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link
I agree with the outrage and Finland should have won of course, but the Sweden song is still good, sorry.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:08 (one year ago) link
So near and yer so far. At least Loreen IS iconic, if it had been some more run of the mill singer I would have contemplated violence.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:12 (one year ago) link
NEW CONSPIRACY THEORY JUST DROPPED https://t.co/C9Qan1Wynk— Jay Hulme (@JayHulmePoet) May 13, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:14 (one year ago) link
Haha, my god, I literally just said that we should start that conspiracy theory to my Eurovision groupchat.
― emil.y, Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link
get your rewards new NATO members Sweden and Finland#letsconspireaway
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Saturday, 13 May 2023 23:19 (one year ago) link
That's an interesting point, though a few good tracks got shafted and Eurovision tracks play with the edges of what is novelty.
The industry juries sometimes come away with different prefs to the general audience because they sit listening to all the songs carefully on recordings for a long time which most of the popular audience don't. That format makes ballads better and cheap novelty tactics worse— hos and trichs 🆓 (@fireh9lly) May 14, 2023
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 May 2023 08:12 (one year ago) link
juries mostly made up of boring conservatives, but sometimes act as a check and balance against public "voting for the narrative" trends, in short the voting is the boring bit of Eurovision i just turned off when the songs had finished
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 May 2023 08:22 (one year ago) link
like watching an ILM poll work itself out in real time
don't really remember the details of last year but wasn't it the public vote that gave Ukraine the Eurovision Being Invaded Is Bad award?
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 May 2023 08:24 (one year ago) link
Doesn't the narrative around various entries start at the latest several weeks before the contest? And aren't most viewers unaware of these narratives anyway? If there was a narrative around the Portugal entry for example I wasn't aware of it. This year both the public and jury votes were in accord regarding the winner and the act that came last. (German entry: glam + Rammstein = Glamstein? I'm not going to get a chance to make that joke again)
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 14 May 2023 08:33 (one year ago) link
Missed it for once. Last year saw the demise of the usual whining about how everyone hates the British because
1. The Empire or sumthin'2. Brexit3. They're just jealous
So I wonder if it'll make a comeback in spite of Boris Johnson being canonised in Kyiv and the UK handing out missiles to the Ukraine like sweeties (and making sure everyone knows about it).
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:12 (one year ago) link
Why shouldn't the UK be handing out missiles to "the" Ukraine like sweeties?
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 14 May 2023 11:44 (one year ago) link
take it to the rolling proxy wars thread
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 May 2023 12:32 (one year ago) link
Finland was joyous - the true winner obv. The crowd shouting "cha cha cha" at random points throughout the night made it feel like a moment.
I wonder if there's any good writing about the effect of rules changes on songs and staging - e.g. those video effects that you can now do at the beginning, I don't think anyone really worked out how to make use of them; the introduction of prerecorded backing vocals seems to mean that the "six people on stage" budget is getting spent on dancers rather than singers hiding at the rear of the stage.
― TWELVE Michelob stars?!? (seandalai), Sunday, 14 May 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
Good page for looking at stats: https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2023
There would have been plenty to complain about in a public-only vote too, but I'm still seething about Sweden beating Finland.
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague)
This was a good thing, not a bad thing.
― emil.y, Sunday, 14 May 2023 14:00 (one year ago) link
'Stefania' being actually good helped a lotCouldn't understand the love for the Israel and Italy entries.
― nashwan, Sunday, 14 May 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link