I don’t think they thought they were, but …
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:27 (one year ago) link
Yeah def. Healthy dose of the ol misogyny here and there too.
― omar little, Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:37 (one year ago) link
sub-question: was it just kinda standard rockism and i'm dense?
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link
They scrubbed a bunch of stuff so they probably agree with you
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2023 19:52 (one year ago) link
Fucking WOW
[Huge Trigger Warning, transphobic]
https://web.archive.org/web/20090821143234/https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8036-the-illusion-of-safety/
― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 May 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link
was gonna say, wayback machine and web.archive.org have a lot of the o_O reviews that were since purged
― Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 May 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, May 4, 2023 12:44 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
It all kinda goes hand-in-hand a bit yeah?
they've scrubbed a bunch of shitty reviews but there are definitely reviews that wouldn't pass muster today that remain.
― omar little, Thursday, 4 May 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
That Thrice review is absolutely deranged
i got less than a paragraph in— really fucked
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:37 (one year ago) link
wonder if it’s the same guy who is now a public defender and twitter guy in Virginia
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
it appears so
Indeed I was. During law school. I am not proud of it. My reviews were trash and I was an asshole to a lot of nice, creative people.— Brad Haywood (@BradleyRHaywood) November 4, 2022
― jaymc, Thursday, 4 May 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
maybe i'm just being an asshole about it but i always imagined pfork authorities at the time encouraging that sort of thing.
"i am not proud of it" is very cringe for all involved. at least they own it. yeesh.
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Thursday, 4 May 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link
Sounds like he’s saying he’s not proud of trashing records, in that tweet at least
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link
Yeah, for about a year. Then Ryan Schreiber fired me. For cause. The cause being that I sucked at writing about music.— Brad Haywood (@BradleyRHaywood) November 4, 2022
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 May 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link
at least he acknowledges it and is doing good work now
― Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 5 May 2023 11:40 (one year ago) link
Don't worry, all this and more will be answered this summer in the fascinating journey into the mind of... https://www.mcdbooks.com/news/ryan-schreiber
― Position Position, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link
jeez. ha, that webpage.. . . links to his weekly spotify playlist.
*wow* a playlist with Beach House and Mac DeMarco. *amazing*
― a (waterface), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
In my day Pitchforkers would come here to explain their errors
It wasn't so much advanced planning as one early, internal joke that turned out to be the thing we ended up going with. We are also constantly working to correct and curb our CMS errors but a computer error and a human error are different things.
Whether a reader, or loads of them, finds it lazy or gutless is another matter, of course.
― scottpl, Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:24 AM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
re: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/11617-partie-traumatic/
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 5 May 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
I personally thought that was great though, ha ha
― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Friday, 5 May 2023 18:53 (one year ago) link
"The ghost of late-’00s indie rock will haunt the dentist’s office." 😂
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/ed-sheeran-subtract/
― I can't tell if he's trolling or not (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link
it really has been a hot minute since a good old fashioned p4k scandal.
pitchfork's art director (I found her credited her as such in a Sherburne tweet #toomuchtimeonilx) is not only a plagiarist...
https://i.imgur.com/nNounzM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Fc32S67.png
https://i.imgur.com/7PaREhT.jpg ...she has never looked at a guitar or heard the phrase "six-string", and is too lazy to even trace properly.
https://i.imgur.com/83bpMPk.jpg
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 13 May 2023 07:10 (one year ago) link
uh thanks imgur
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 13 May 2023 07:11 (one year ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/BwdHGDZ/pf01.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/jgd00cL/pf02.png
https://i.ibb.co/SnfFfmy/pf03.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/LhJKCDR/pf04.jpg
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 13 May 2023 07:16 (one year ago) link
Looks like they took the image down, but no acknowledgement in story
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 13 May 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
I had noticed that too... I assume she figured she had "changed it just enough" or something, but it was pretty clear what the reference was.
― Did you know that there’s a tunnel under Wayne Manor (morrisp), Saturday, 13 May 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link
thanks again imgur >:(
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 13 May 2023 16:15 (one year ago) link
sic, they all loaded for me (both times)
― Did you know that there’s a tunnel under Wayne Manor (morrisp), Saturday, 13 May 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
thanks again imgur >:(― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:15 AM
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, May 13, 2023 9:15 AM
THE BETRAYAL IS REAL AND I FEEL YOUR PAIN
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Saturday, 13 May 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link
(I reupped them all to another host when the imgurs wouldn't work for me at first - then they showed up this morning)
― least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 13 May 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
what is The Pitch?
i seem to recall it started out as, like, Pitchfork's blog (?) for thinkpieces (maybe) and/or stuff that didn't quite fit elsewhere? Or something like that?
Now it seems to be half rap songs and half feature-y type things. But the site also has a Features section. So what's the difference between the Features section and the non-rap-song pieces in The Pitch?
― alpine static, Friday, 19 May 2023 05:49 (one year ago) link
i think if any distinction exists these days it's that the feature-y pieces tend to be a bit shorter than those in the features? but it's a weird thing now yeah
― ufo, Friday, 19 May 2023 07:00 (one year ago) link
The RIYL blurbs in "best new music of 2023 so far" are super cringe. Wouldn't be surprised if they were AI-generated.
― beard papa, Thursday, 1 June 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
The Chicago post-punk quartet’s jittery second album rails against gentrification, algorithmic overload, and the bankruptcy of life under an extractive system
If the goal here is to describe music in a way that makes it sound as uninviting, tedious and missable as possible, mission accomplished
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
^I had the same thought. (To balance that out – this is terrific music writing.)
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:52 (one year ago) link
The RIYL blurbs in "best new music of 2023 so far" are super cringe.
otm anytime i read a recommendation that makes me feel second hand embarrassment, i'm officially uninterested. perhaps aggressively so.
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Saturday, 3 June 2023 01:08 (one year ago) link
Assuming it's just a temporary error or something, but I don't even see the "Reviews" section popping up on their home page today, tried in a few different browsers.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link
yeah, something very wonky going on. When I click on the Reviews section they come up all out of chronological order, with reviews from Oct. 2022 in between June 2023 and May 2023.
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:04 (eleven months ago) link
Reviews are now passé
― Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:05 (eleven months ago) link
the dream is happening
― sad Mings of dynasty (Neanderthal), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:06 (eleven months ago) link
Everything is 10.0
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:17 (eleven months ago) link
yeah something is clearly happening on the backend
https://i.imgur.com/uaX0rQx.png
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:26 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah, the Twitter account is tweeting links to new album reviews that work, so something all futzed up. Sorry to crush your dreams Neando.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 June 2023 15:27 (eleven months ago) link
This new Longform piece ("The Secret Gay History of Indie Rock") begins:
“Is being a rock star the province of white, heterosexual males?” an interviewer asked Michael Stipe in 1992, two years before the R.E.M. frontman came out. Stipe answered evasively, nonsensically, queerly: “Look… I yam what I yam.” It’s a noncommittal attitude recognizable to anyone who minored in queer theory: the ambiguity, the absurdity, the refusal to represent oneself in policeable terms.
First, I don't think you need to have "minored in queer theory" to get where Stipe was coming from. Second, the entire piece is clearly written by someone, and for people, with a specific academic background. It's basically a few (small) steps away from a college paper. I don't know why you would write for a general readership that way.
― Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 17:01 (eleven months ago) link
Apart from one reference to an academic paper, it doesn't seem particularly academic to me.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 17:10 (eleven months ago) link
Or to me.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 17:31 (eleven months ago) link
Is it some kind of joke that everyone's minoring in queer theory now?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:22 (eleven months ago) link
Might've if I coulda. Had to settle for philosophy.
it reads like a listicle disguised as an essay...
― fpsa, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:25 (eleven months ago) link
That article isn’t academic at all, and it’s also utter shit— low research listicle crap. If the umbrella of “indie” is going to be as broad as the author would like it to be, then there are many histories missing— Human Sexual Response, Kitchens of Distinction, Team Dresch and everything that was on OutpunK, the Dicks, groups like German Shepherds and Pink Section, etc etc etc. It’s as if the author came up with the premise with some more recent groups in mind and then didn’t bother to research anything other than most mainstream and obvious examples from pre-1995. Sophomoric.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:37 (eleven months ago) link
(Journalists at the time generally failed to notice the inherent gayness of Morrissey’s Oscar Wilde idolatry, instead interpreting it as heterosexual sensitivity.)shame Morrissey's sexuality wasn't more speculated on at the time
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:40 (eleven months ago) link