It always confused me why the army wanted to draft him in “Fuck a War” but maybe they needed his medical expertise.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
I mean he couldn't be stopped so
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
not unlike Nick Cave's big brain in that respect
― contrapuntal aversion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:26 (one year ago) link
music's enlightened centrist pundit
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link
Can the Nick Cave from 1981 attend the Coronation please?
https://www.discogs.com/master/20065-The-Birthday-Party-Live-81-82
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:54 (one year ago) link
^ that's the only thing with him in it that I really like.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link
I can remember that Australian bloke from - I think The Triffids - saying in an interview that The Birthday Party were all from frightfully posh public school backgrounds.
we don't have those here, cave & the rest of the birthday party (except howard) went to a posh private school together. none of that uk nonsense where 'public' means 'private'
― ufo, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link
i read an account of someone going backstage at a birthday party gig and expecting to see them writhing in blood and vomit, but they were playing bridge and dropping latin tags
which, i dunno, there's something i admire about it given the context
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:27 (one year ago) link
agreed but it also explains a lot about how we ended up here
― Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link
Fuck Nick's "I'm-so-curious-about-inherited-wealth-and-privilege". This is the way to do it: https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/viewpoint/23495407.buckingham-palace---day-invited-tea
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link
xp yep 100%!
― meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Thursday, 4 May 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
I re-listened to the Live Birthday Party record I mentioned previously. It starts with a version of Junkyard where Cave is screaming I AM THE KING for a solid minute.
He should challenge Charles to a duel on Saturday.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 May 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link
JUst rechecked, the Venue date on the lIve 81-82 set is the same set that was intentionally mixed to show the flaws for Drunk On The Pope's Blood set. Minus Scott and Piece singing Danger Zone in The Heart of Missouri which started that set.I thought there would be more archival material released since the ex-band members got teh right to their material back. Possibly an idds and sods collection like teh one that Drunk On The Pope's Blood was paired with on teh Missing LInk Records box set. I think there were remastered versions of Junkyard and the 83 eps sets released as vinyl with free cd but otherwise thought there would be more. The band members haven't disowned that era or anything have they?
― Stevo, Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:31 (one year ago) link
I thought the interviews on Conan neutron's podcast indicated tehy were still pretty proud of what they had recorded so further surprise taht there hasn't been further expansion of what is around. Also looked like the Boys next Door/s/t Birthday party lp and Prayers on Fire weren't included in that vinyl plus free cd remaster. I thought the band had got all of their rights back so surprised those would be excluded. Looks like Prayers o Fire has come out on Drastic Plastic since but I still play mainly cds when my machine works.
― Stevo, Thursday, 4 May 2023 11:46 (one year ago) link
Although now I'm trying to imagine Blixa attending the coronation and can't quite manage it.
Didn't Blixa marry into a Chinese billionaire's family?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:00 (one year ago) link
Hadn't heard the billionaire part but know he was living in China presumably due to his partner being from there.
― Stevo, Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:35 (one year ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Zhu_(entrepreneur)probably a billionaire or close
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:42 (one year ago) link
China is communist so that's ok.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:44 (one year ago) link
Not to be all Save A Blixa but marrying someone who comes from wealth and participating in a celebration of feudalism not at all comparable situations imo?
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:47 (one year ago) link
Blixon in China
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 May 2023 12:56 (one year ago) link
i didn't know Marc Almond had an OBE.
Marc, what was it like being appointed OBE at the age of 60? Did you meet the Queen? Dave, does Marc wave it in your face?
Marc: I initially had mixed feelings. Part of me worried the younger me would have despaired at how establishment I’d become. People who say they would never accept it have almost always never been offered it. After what I’ve been through, I thought it was amazing to be recognised. So I was gracious in accepting it. I mean, who would have thought it? One day you’re smearing your naked body in cat food at art college, the next you’re choosing terracotta pots at the garden centre. That’s how quickly life goes by. An OBE at 60 was great. I guess the palace never listened to most of my lyrics. Or maybe I was truly subversive and mischievous after all! I received my OBE from Prince William, who was very tall. It made my mum very happy and she got to go to the palace with me.
Dave: Initially we said: “Oh, do we have to curtsey? Do we call you sir?” Everyone was quite gobsmacked. I don’t believe in all the British empire stuff, but I’m very pleased for Marc on his behalf. He got to meet the future king, so that’s something to tell the grandkids, if you ever have any.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link
Yeah Marc leapt to mind yesterday as the one person I'd be all "You know I *am* onboard with looking askance at those who took the honours but there's a glaring exception I'd have to make..."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
It made my mum very happy and she got to go to the palace with me
can't knock the hustle
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 4 May 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/CPdiDZW.png
― PaulTMA, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:13 (one year ago) link
Since April 2018, Kisin has been co-presenter of the show Triggernometry, a YouTube channel and podcast. The show is dedicated to free speech and open discussion on a range of controversial topics, featuring guests from diverse backgrounds.[6] Guests have included Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, Destiny, Adam Carolla, Bill Burr, Andrew Doyle, David Frost, Theo Von, Coleman Hughes, Matt Walsh, Louise Perry, Peter Hitchens, Mark Blyth, Andrew Adonis, Diana Fleischman, Scott Adams, Laurence Fox, Carl Benjamin, Melanie Phillips, Rod Liddle, Julia Hartley-Brewer, John Curtice, Matthew Goodwin, Helen Dale, Calvin Robinson, Steven Woolfe, Geoff Norcott, Kathleen Stock, Paul Embery, Katharine Birbalsingh, Nigel Farage, Toby Young, Ariel Pink, and Debbie Hayton.[6]
So diverse!
― peace, man, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:25 (one year ago) link
Getting the feeling Cave is about to go full Morrissey
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link
Endorsed by Linehan, it's not looking good for Nick Cave.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
I think like with Morrissey some fools told him he was quite an exceptional artist in the 80's and he's believed that to be the case ever since. I'd have told him he sounds like a goth Vic Reeves singing in the club style and he's a vacuous poser and his albums are utterly ghastly.
― calzino, Friday, 5 May 2023 13:50 (one year ago) link
Awaiting more posts about how he isn’t actually that bad and it’s everyone noticing it who’s wrong.
― Everybody's gonna get what they got coming (gyac), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:54 (one year ago) link
The despair of VHS keeping tabs on how people keeping tabs on how Nick Cave is wrong about things are wrong about things.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 5 May 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link
like many others have remarked his live presence is remarkable
stumbled into a 2008 grinderman show with no expectations and was blown away, caught the bad seeds a few times since, always great fun
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 5 May 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
well, shit looks like it's gonna be the full heel turn then
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 May 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link
People like what they like, but I watched that clip above (the duet) and felt nothing. Full-on "Really? This is your god?" territory.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 5 May 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link
I think by now it's well established that you don't like Nick Cave
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 5 May 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link
Don't stop until everyone agrees, man
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 5 May 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
Oh, I'm in for the long haul. Hating Nick Cave hasn't been this much fun in years.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 5 May 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link
My sister in law sent me this takedown some years back
https://overland.org.au/previous-issues/issue-197/feature-anwyn-crawford/
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 May 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link
Cave’s cartoon profanity is no more sophisticated or evolved than the bump’n’grind of gangsta rap
well now
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 5 May 2023 14:36 (one year ago) link
I never said he wasn't bad, I'm just defending the music and will continue to, though yeah, that list of guests on the show, not great company.
I just feel strongly about some of these Warren Ellis albums, Push the Sky and Skeleton Key. And I'm not some life-long "stan". I like Mercy Seat in college and have always loved Henry's Dream, which he hates for some reason. But I felt no need to listen to anything else ever. Which is why those two records surprised me so much.
Don't want to get into the whole separating the artist and his work chat, I just thing some people are selling those albums short because he's an idiot.
― dan selzer, Friday, 5 May 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link
Triggernometry
what kind of sicko freak willingly watches this shit…
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 5 May 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
Henry's Dream, which he hates for some reason
David Briggs doing air guitar in the control room window during takes apparently
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 5 May 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link
that's a really solid record ... as an American whose ancestors came to America from England back when England owned it, I think the whole royalty thing is absurd and a waste of money, not to mention the historical war crimes and oppression conducted in its name. As stupid as my country is, it has only taken us a few hundred years to get rid of a bunch of problematic statues ... idk why England hasn't gotten rid of the dumb royal family yet.
― sarahell, Friday, 5 May 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
It’s because we’re so charmingly eccentric
― michel goindry (wins), Friday, 5 May 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, May 5, 2023 10:49 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
henry's dream is so great also i'm sure those sessions where a great collision of pretend crazy vs. real crazy (briggs)
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 May 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
But back to Nick … he went through that romanticizing the American West phase, so I am not really shocked by this? Like, he is drawn to these “spectacles” and isn’t thoroughly critical of them. He’s a flawed dude who has made a lot of music I like.
― sarahell, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link
Totally, I have a feeling that Cave & Harvey thought they were going to get a window into genius of Neil Young & they did, but didn't realize it was going to be chopping up lines on the mixing desk
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 5 May 2023 16:17 (one year ago) link
I can't pretend I care about Cave, but if you do, the tweet PaulTMA posted is def more potentially worrying than the coronation imo. I don't know if he's said anything terfy yet, but he's now in their orbit
― rob, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link
xpost I tend to think the Live Seeds album is the intentional corrective to Henry's Dream (at the least, I prefer the versions on there) -- also credit to the Walkabouts among many other genius moves for taking a song from Henry's and covering it a year later to better effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2FE2eJmy8k
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
Linehan is absolutely desperate for allies and has gone so bananas he'll jump to any old conclusions
Cave attending an UnHerd event and posing with that lot might not be very encouraging though
― PaulTMA, Friday, 5 May 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link
Cave being an old man twit and more boring than not for the last 30 years can never take away hearing "Mutiny In Heaven" for the first time when I was 15 and listening almost exclusively to ska-punk.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 5 May 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link