Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

It didn’t take me that much time to click on this thread and read nick cave being wrong about things, I learned to read English early in life and haven’t forgotten how

xxp

what's the despair element about it? And I've only read the quoted segments on the thread, wouldn't waste my time going any further. Whereas with you, this revive is like a siren to you.

i for one have only experienced glee reading the invective against nick cave in this revive.

I'm sure there are many more people more horrible than Nick Cave, they just have the good sense not to spout off about it in public too much. Although now I'm trying to imagine Blixa attending the coronation and can't quite manage it.

*throws crown to the ground, welds it to something*

he's clearly engaged in a long play for the poet laureateship. so mauve.

blixa would kick king charles in the nuts like he did gibby haynes from the butthole surfers

The despair of spending so much time keeping tabs on how Nick Cave is wrong about things.

LOL keeping tabs. I haven't thought about Nick Cave for about 15 years - I literally had never posted in this thread before today. 'Twas only when I found out that he's a miserable toadying bootlicker for the British royal family and a disgrace to his nation that I posted.

every country needs its own Lozza Fox apparently

You mean like Canada having VHS?

I like how two guys on this thread are determined to turn Cave into the new Amanda Palmer

I mean he makes much better records but "now I do an advice column," you know,...

so everyone now dropping off the NC train because of his attendance to this event surely has done the same with any musician/act that's been knighted?

having a hard time thinking of anyone worth caring about in 2023 with a knighthood

Sir Nose D Voidoffunk is my problematic fave.

I'm a huge hypocrite as I still listen to Sir Mixalot

Nah, once he bent the knee to accept that knighthood Mixalot was dead to me.

Mixalot is really leaving money on the table not starting the 1-900-MIXALOT advice podcast.

I remembered Bushwick Bill being Baron Wolfgang Von Bushwickin The Barbarian Mother-Funky Stay High Dollar Billster...but he was a Dr.

It always confused me why the army wanted to draft him in “Fuck a War” but maybe they needed his medical expertise.

I mean he couldn't be stopped so

not unlike Nick Cave's big brain in that respect

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Can the Nick Cave from 1981 attend the Coronation please?

https://www.discogs.com/master/20065-The-Birthday-Party-Live-81-82

^ that's the only thing with him in it that I really like.

I can remember that Australian bloke from - I think The Triffids - saying in an interview that The Birthday Party were all from frightfully posh public school backgrounds.

we don't have those here, cave & the rest of the birthday party (except howard) went to a posh private school together. none of that uk nonsense where 'public' means 'private'

i read an account of someone going backstage at a birthday party gig and expecting to see them writhing in blood and vomit, but they were playing bridge and dropping latin tags

which, i dunno, there's something i admire about it given the context

agreed but it also explains a lot about how we ended up here

Fuck Nick's "I'm-so-curious-about-inherited-wealth-and-privilege". This is the way to do it: https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/viewpoint/23495407.buckingham-palace---day-invited-tea

xp yep 100%!

I re-listened to the Live Birthday Party record I mentioned previously. It starts with a version of Junkyard where Cave is screaming I AM THE KING for a solid minute.

He should challenge Charles to a duel on Saturday.

JUst rechecked, the Venue date on the lIve 81-82 set is the same set that was intentionally mixed to show the flaws for Drunk On The Pope's Blood set. Minus Scott and Piece singing Danger Zone in The Heart of Missouri which started that set.
I thought there would be more archival material released since the ex-band members got teh right to their material back. Possibly an idds and sods collection like teh one that Drunk On The Pope's Blood was paired with on teh Missing LInk Records box set. I think there were remastered versions of Junkyard and the 83 eps sets released as vinyl with free cd but otherwise thought there would be more. The band members haven't disowned that era or anything have they?

I thought the interviews on Conan neutron's podcast indicated tehy were still pretty proud of what they had recorded so further surprise taht there hasn't been further expansion of what is around. Also looked like the Boys next Door/s/t Birthday party lp and Prayers on Fire weren't included in that vinyl plus free cd remaster. I thought the band had got all of their rights back so surprised those would be excluded.
Looks like Prayers o Fire has come out on Drastic Plastic since but I still play mainly cds when my machine works.

Although now I'm trying to imagine Blixa attending the coronation and can't quite manage it.

Didn't Blixa marry into a Chinese billionaire's family?

Hadn't heard the billionaire part but know he was living in China presumably due to his partner being from there.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Min_Zhu_(entrepreneur)

probably a billionaire or close

China is communist so that's ok.

Not to be all Save A Blixa but marrying someone who comes from wealth and participating in a celebration of feudalism not at all comparable situations imo?

Blixon in China

i didn't know Marc Almond had an OBE.

Marc, what was it like being appointed OBE at the age of 60? Did you meet the Queen? Dave, does Marc wave it in your face?

Marc: I initially had mixed feelings. Part of me worried the younger me would have despaired at how establishment I’d become. People who say they would never accept it have almost always never been offered it. After what I’ve been through, I thought it was amazing to be recognised. So I was gracious in accepting it. I mean, who would have thought it? One day you’re smearing your naked body in cat food at art college, the next you’re choosing terracotta pots at the garden centre. That’s how quickly life goes by. An OBE at 60 was great. I guess the palace never listened to most of my lyrics. Or maybe I was truly subversive and mischievous after all! I received my OBE from Prince William, who was very tall. It made my mum very happy and she got to go to the palace with me.

Dave: Initially we said: “Oh, do we have to curtsey? Do we call you sir?” Everyone was quite gobsmacked. I don’t believe in all the British empire stuff, but I’m very pleased for Marc on his behalf. He got to meet the future king, so that’s something to tell the grandkids, if you ever have any.

Yeah Marc leapt to mind yesterday as the one person I'd be all "You know I *am* onboard with looking askance at those who took the honours but there's a glaring exception I'd have to make..."

It made my mum very happy and she got to go to the palace with me

can't knock the hustle

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Since April 2018, Kisin has been co-presenter of the show Triggernometry, a YouTube channel and podcast. The show is dedicated to free speech and open discussion on a range of controversial topics, featuring guests from diverse backgrounds.[6] Guests have included Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson, Destiny, Adam Carolla, Bill Burr, Andrew Doyle, David Frost, Theo Von, Coleman Hughes, Matt Walsh, Louise Perry, Peter Hitchens, Mark Blyth, Andrew Adonis, Diana Fleischman, Scott Adams, Laurence Fox, Carl Benjamin, Melanie Phillips, Rod Liddle, Julia Hartley-Brewer, John Curtice, Matthew Goodwin, Helen Dale, Calvin Robinson, Steven Woolfe, Geoff Norcott, Kathleen Stock, Paul Embery, Katharine Birbalsingh, Nigel Farage, Toby Young, Ariel Pink, and Debbie Hayton.[6]

So diverse!

Getting the feeling Cave is about to go full Morrissey

Endorsed by Linehan, it's not looking good for Nick Cave.

I think like with Morrissey some fools told him he was quite an exceptional artist in the 80's and he's believed that to be the case ever since. I'd have told him he sounds like a goth Vic Reeves singing in the club style and he's a vacuous poser and his albums are utterly ghastly.

Awaiting more posts about how he isn’t actually that bad and it’s everyone noticing it who’s wrong.

The despair of VHS keeping tabs on how people keeping tabs on how Nick Cave is wrong about things are wrong about things.

like many others have remarked his live presence is remarkable

stumbled into a 2008 grinderman show with no expectations and was blown away, caught the bad seeds a few times since, always great fun

well, shit looks like it's gonna be the full heel turn then

like many others have remarked his live presence is remarkable

People like what they like, but I watched that clip above (the duet) and felt nothing. Full-on "Really? This is your god?" territory.