You Could Get Lost Out Here: the ILM Canadian Pop Music Results Thread

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I'm not the biggest poptimist but martial law seems a little excessive for this.

I like "Call Me Maybe"; think I might like Avril Lavigne's "Complicated" more or less as much.

Wasn't thinking of that at all; just used it for the iconic status of the interview.

I voted for "Lunatic Fringe", it can stand as a proxy for the other early 80s minor key "gritty" rockers we won't see, like the Payola$, Saga and the aforementioned Aldo Nova.

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2. "Echo Beach" (1980)
Martha & the Muffins
158 points/14 votes
video

Hi, I’m sure I put Bran Van 3000 at number one. Just checking it wasn’t missed.

"Aside" was the only song with two (clear, unmistakable) #1 votes.

I was one. Anyone want to claim the other?

Not number one, but the only song with 14 votes, almost half...was surprised.

I saw so many key Toronto punk/new-wave bands in and around 1980, but I don't think I saw Martha & the Muffins. Always had a bit of a crush on the Martha who sings "Echo Beach." (Saying "the Martha" reminds me of The Handmaid's Tale.)

(xpost) Right...Your songs were numbered, but no points were assigned. So I gave everything 10 points, but didn't count that as #1 (explained above).

Just like to tell (or remind) everyone who voted for "Echo Beach" that the entire Metro Music album is great, they're far from a one-hit wonder.

I was hoping to get a good Sunnyside photo circa 1980, but I settled for Cherry Beach (which I don't think I ever set foot on in 40 years of living in Toronto).

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1. "If You Could Read My Mind" (1970)
Gordon Lightfoot
198 points/10 votes/one #1 vote
video

Bring on the Gord!

Perfect ending, right? No interference from me at all--finished counting votes a week ago. (Had it on my own list, but didn't throw in extra points at the end, promise.) Also a great clip, one of those BBC TV specials from the early '70s (Neil Young, James Taylor, etc.).

Hallelujah, not "Hallelujah"!

Wow the number of votes really grew in the Top 5. I voted for "Echo Beach".

Ah, one of my top tier votes!

Xxp ok understood, all good.

This was my #2. I came to Gord really late after only knowing "Wreck" most of my life. Had no idea his catalogue was as deep and rich as it actually is. Happy that everything converged in his honor.

Good to see Gord on top.

i voted for edmund fitzgerald instead but happy to see gord!

"Steal My Sunshine" holds up so well, I think. Did they ever make another record? They must have.

― clemenza, Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:00 PM

They did! The label even sent out review promos. But then they shelved it. The band got it back and released it themselves several years later, but I can't remember if it was any good.

Good poll! Thanks, clemenza! I enjoyed the rollout and images. 10 of my 30 votes placed including 4 of my top 5 (the lone miss being Stars' "Elevator Love Letter").

Most surprising no show for ilx is Grimes, and c'mon, Drake and Shania should be here, too.

I think almost everybody sent their lists in through their own email, so you should have a copy if you want to post yours. I got one or two via board email; let me know if you need that. If you want to claim a #1 that I missed (or didn't count), please do.

A.C. Newman - "You Could Get Lost Out Here" - 15
Andy Kim - "How'd We Ever Get This Way? " - 15
Anne Murray - "Talk It Over in the Morning" - 15
Broken Social Scene - "Anthems for a Seventeen Year-Old Girl" - 15
Ginette Reno - "Beautiful Second Hand Man" - 15
Goddo - "Sweet Thing" - 15
Guess Who - "Rain Dance" - 15
Neil Young - "Sugar Mountain" - 15
Shirley Matthews & the Big Town Girls - "Big Town Boy" - 15
Treble Charger - "Even Grable" - 15

Buffalo Springfield - "Rock and Roll Woman" - 12
Buffy Sainte-Marie - "The Circle Game" - 12
D.J. Shoe - "Attack of the 50-Ft. Teletubbies" - 12
Diodes - "Tired of Waking Up Tired" - 12
Hylozoists - "Soixante-Sept" - 12
Joni Mitchell - "Chelsea Morning" - 12
Oliver Shoerer - "Field of Stars" - 12
Teenage Head - "Total Love" - 12
Thundermug - "Africa" - 12
Tragically Hip - "Fireworks" - 12

Diamonds - "The Stroll" - 10
Drake - "Take Care" - 10
Dundrells - "Nothing on T.V. " - 10
Feist - "1234" - 10
Gordon Lightfoot - "If You Could Read My Mind" - 10
Junkhouse - "Out of My Head" - 10
Kon Kan - "I Beg Your Pardon" - 10
Leonard Cohen - "Winter Lady" - 10
New Pornographers - "Mass Romantic" - 10
Viletones - "Don't You Lie" - 10

British Modbeats - "Sorrow" - 5
Bruce Cockburn - "Goin' Down the Road" - 5
Fludd - "Get Up, Get Out & Move On" - 5
Grimes - "Delete Forever" - 5
Jale - "Despite" - 5
Len - "Steal My Sunshine" - 5
Pointed Sticks - "Apologies" - 5
Snow - "The Plumb Song" - 5
Ugly Ducklings - She Ain't No Use to Me" - 5
Valdy - "Rock 'n' Roll Song" - 5

My hasty ballot, with a few write-ins

Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe (50)
Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (45)
Martha & the Muffins - Echo Beach (30)
Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know (15)
Leonard Cohen - If It Be Your Will (10)

(↓ 6 points each ↓)

Band - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
Bran Van 3000 - Drinking in L.A.
Bryan Adams - Run to You
Buffalo Springfield - Expecting to Fly
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
Céline Dion - My Heart Will Go On
Corey Hart - Sunglasses at Night
Cowboy Junkies - Sweet Jane
Daniel Lanois - The Maker
Doughboys - Shine
Feist - Mushaboom
Gino Vannelli - Wild Horses
Hidden Cameras - Builds The Bone
Joni Mitchell - Help Me
Len - Steal My Sunshine
Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance
Moev - Noise
Neil Young - Long May You Run
Nelly Furtado - Maneater
New Pornographers - Bleeding Heart Show
Sarah McLachlan - Possession
Skinny Puppy - Assimilate
Sloan - Underwhelmed
Tragically Hip - Fifty-Mission Cap
Weakerthans - Aside

From my own list, most surprised that "Fireworks," "1234," and "Tired of Waking Up Tired" (and maybe Drake, another song if not mine) didn't make the Top 40. No Anne Murray, either.

The one thing I did change at the last second, after Lightfoot's death, was to use an image of him for #1 rather than my original thought, which was to use the Expo '67 (#5) image.

Never heard this Bran Van 3000 song. Enjoyable. It's got a bit of "Loser" in it.

surprised no Sloan placed. also surprised Try by Blue Rodeo didn't make it and non of Arcade Fire's more successful tracks made it. and while the Hip were never huge wth the ILM set, I expected to see something place after "Home for a Rest" made the top 40.
the #1 was perfect tho, of course.

"If You Could Read My Mind" is the greatest song ever, so of course it had to top the poll (and was my #1).

I voted for six of the top seven songs (didn't vote for "Echo Beach"). "Steal My Sunshine" definitely holds up, it's still one of my go-to feel good summer songs even after 25 years.

"Summer of '69" was my #2. I always liked it but at the time, I didn't think it particularly stood out from the pack of big Bryan Adams hits that were all over the radio throughout the '80's. But over the years, I began to appreciate it more as a teen angst tour de force, there are very few songs that so brilliantly encapsulate both the myth and the awkward pathos of being young and in lust.

I'd be curious to learn the act with the most total votes who didn't actually place an individual song on the countdown.

I'm surprised at no Jane Siberry or "High School Confidential", maybe they're both too long ago.

I'll put a most-points-by-artist list up later tonight.

Wait were Sloan and the Hip both shut out?

YES!

wouldn't be surprised if the Hidden Cameras were up there for bands with lots of votes, but nothing that placed (along with Sloan and Hip). they have a lot of solid songs, and are popular enough here; but no big hits or obvious "best" song.

Also shut out: ILX's favorite Barenaked Ladies album cover

Clemenza, do you have an easily accessible condensed list of the top 40 (or was one posted)?

My list:
P'tit Belliveau - Income Tax 16
Rush - Limelight 16
Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind 16
Neil Young - Powderfinger 16
Chilliwack - Fly at Night 15
Foot in Coldwater - (Make Me Do) Anything You Want 14
Buffy Sainte-Marie - God is Alive, Magic Is Afoot 14
Grapes of Wrath - All the Things I Wasn’t 14
Bruce Cockburn - Lovers in a Dangerous Time 13
Joni Mitchell - Free Man in Paris 13
Tragically Hip - Bobcaygeon 13
Les Cowboys Fringants - L'Amérique pleure 13
Sloan - Everything You've Done Wrong 12
Eric's Trip - Smother 12
Kate & Anna McGarrigle - Complainte pour Ste. Catherine 12
Big Wreck - Bombs Away 11
Gowan - (You're A) Strange Animal 10
SNFU - Where’s My Legs 10
Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride 10
Spirit of the West - And if Venice Is Sinking 10
New Pornographers - Crash Years 9
NoMeansNo - The Tower 9
Hank Snow - I've Been Everywhere 9
Maestro Fresh Wes - Let Your Backbone Slide 9
Harmonium - Pour an Instant 8
Gandharvas - The First Day of Spring 8
Harlequin - Innocence 8
Owen Pallett - The Riverbed 8
Dream Warriors - My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style 7
Triumph- Midsummer's Daydream 7
Doughboys - Shine 7
Blue Rodeo - Trust Yourself 7
Varga - Freeze Don't Move 6
Pursuit of Happiness- She's So Young 6
Yamatanka // Sonic Titan - Hoshi Neko 6
Mother Mother - Hayloft 6
Shania Twain - No One Needs to Know 5
Nick Gilder - Hot Child in the City 5
Jean Leloup - Je joue de la guitare 5
Front Line Assembly - Mindphaser 5

I made this playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDMIkL-lVpdBQue-p4sMD2VeWgdhBxzCK

Have P'tit Belliveau tickets for the weekend. He sold out the last two shows before I could get them.

(xpost) Just finishing that now--give me a few minutes.

Didn't mean to rush you, sorry

43. (tie) "Anthems for a Seventeen Year-Old Girl," Broken Social Scene - 45 (3 votes)
      "Early Morning Rain," Gordon Lightfoot - 45 (3 votes)
42. "The Weight," the Band - 45 (4 votes/one #1 vote)
39. (tie) "Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)," Arcade Fire - 45 (5 votes)
      "Both of Us," Jayda G - 45 (5 votes)
      "Home for a Rest," Spirit of the West - 45 (5 votes)
38. "Limelight," Rush - 46 (4 votes)
37. "Run Away with Me," Carly Rae Jepsen - 47 (3 votes)
35. (tie) "The House That Heaven Built," Japandroids - 47 (4 votes)
      "Closer," Tegan & Sara - 47 (4 votes)
34. "For What It's Worth," Buffalo Springfield - 48 (6 votes)
32. (tie) "Étienne d’Août," Malajube - 50 (1 vote/one #1 vote)
      "Like a Hurricane," Neil Young - 50 (1 vote/one #1 vote)
28. (tie) "Sundown," Gordon Lightfoot - 50 (4 votes)
      "So Long, Marianne," Leonard Cohen - 50 (4 votes)
      "After the Gold Rush," Neil Young - 50 (4 votes)
      "Subdivisions," Rush - 50 (4 votes)
27. "Let Your Backbone Slide," Maestro Fresh-Wes - 50 (6 votes)
26. "Barrett’s Privateers," Stan Rogers - 51 (3 votes)
25. "All the Things I Wasn't," Grapes of Wrath - 52 (5 votes)
24. "The Safety Dance," Men Without Hats - 52 (6 votes)
23. "7/4 (Shoreline)," Broken Social Scene - 53 (5 votes)
22. "These Eyes," Guess Who - 54 (4 votes/one #1 vote)
21. "Blinding Lights," The Weeknd - 54 (6 votes)
20. "Expecting to Fly," Buffalo Springfield - 56 (5 votes)
19. "Nova Heart," Spoons - 57 (5 votes)
18. "I Beg Your Pardon," Kon Kan - 58 (4 votes)
17. "Kaputt," Destroyer - 61 (4 votes)
16. "Constant Craving," k.d. lang - 63 (6 votes)
15. "Cortez the Killer," Neil Young & Crazy Horse - 70 (5 votes/one #1 vote)
14. "Summer of '69," Bryan Adams - 71 (4 votes)
13. "Help Me," Joni Mitchell - 71 (5 votes)
12. "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," the Band - 73 (7 votes)
11. "Lunatic Fringe," Red Rider - 75 (4 votes/one #1 vote)
10. "Powderfinger," Neil Young & Crazy Horse - 77 (6 votes)
 9. "Aside," Weakerthans - 86 (4 votes/two #1 votes)
 8. "Drinking in L.A.," Bran Van 3000 - 87 (8 votes)
 7. "A Case of You," Joni Mitchell - 100 (7 votes/one #1 vote)
 6. "You Oughta Know," Alanis Morissette - 102 (8 votes)
 5. "Steal My Sunshine," Len - 123 (11 votes)
 4. "Mass Romantic," New Pornographers - 127 (10 votes)
 3. "Call Me Maybe," Carly Rae Jepsen - 133 (13 votes)
 2. "Echo Beach," Martha & the Muffins - 158 (14 votes)
 1. "If You Could Read My Mind," Gordon Lightfoot - 198 (10 votes/one #1 vote)

Sloan and the Tragically Hip both got a number of votes for various songs.

Sloan literally missed by one point: "Everything You've Done Wrong" had 44 points. The highest Tragically Hip song was "Fireworks," with 39. I'll put up a link to the spreadsheet.

Let me know if this works:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W3iW4xcruX-ehxISjv-740KLnJ-KbUPl/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106419197278163686735&rtpof=true&sd=true

Yep! Great work clemenza.

I'll have to belatedly peruse everything a little later. Nice that Lightfoot was #1. Wasn't necessarily expecting that track to be *the* track, but it *has* been a reliable highlight of easy-listening radio over here for as long as I can remember.

am i to understand that p'tit beliveau was shut out

I would appear so...I figured out an easy way to do artists, so I'll have that up tonight.

"It"

P'tit Belliveau (whoever this is) had 26 points...

Looks like we gave him his only votes, maffew12. The Ottawa-Gatineau region clearly loves him, though.