You Could Get Lost Out Here: the ILM Canadian Pop Music Results Thread

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I suspect there'll be another of his songs higher up.

My only vote that placed today was for the Grapes of Wrath, but I voted for other songs by some of the artists who placed (I limited myself to one vote per artist). In fact I thought I had voted for "Limelight" but I chose another Rush song.
I just listened now to all the songs I wasn't familiar with - mostly bright, hopeful synth pop. I was vaguely expecting that there would be some things that I have overheard at the supermarket, which is basically the only place I hear music I don't choose myself... but that probably won't be, unless we get a surprise turnout for the No Frills rap "Bag It Up".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 02:37 (three years ago)

I have definitely overheard Closer and Bright Lights at the supermarket, though I'm not sure those are the synth pop songs you are referring to.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 02:48 (three years ago)

Wow. For sure we have at least one more Lightfoot song coming up. RIP
Wonder how different this poll would have been if we did it two weeks later.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 03:23 (three years ago)

Aw shit, I’m glad we got Gordon Lightfoot in there, just under the wire.

The endless wire.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 05:14 (three years ago)

Great to see The Grapes of Wrath in there, and one of their best tunes too, imho.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 11:40 (three years ago)

RIP

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 12:17 (three years ago)

Coincidence, or something more?

As Gord would put it, "I'm Not Sayin'..."

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 14:10 (three years ago)

23. "7/4 (Shoreline)" (2005)
Broken Social Scene
53 points/5 votes
video

― clemenza, Monday, May 1, 2023 4:55 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

One of my favorite songs of the 00s full stop, and so thrilled to see it rank this high.

Will finish up Wednesday...indexed wanted to clarify that he cast a #1 vote for "The Weight." It was a numbered list with the points distributed evenly, so I wasn't sure.

― clemenza, Monday, May 1, 2023 5:07 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Don't worry about it at all -- no need to adjust at this point -- but my list had points that were not evenly distributed...presumably this means "7/4 Shoreline" should be even higher!

Indexed, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:03 (three years ago)

re: the Honest Ed's image, I spent a few months working in Toronto a decade ago and would take the subway from downtown to Bathurst for a vegan restaurant I liked. Nice to see a familiar landmark in this rollout, as I'd completely forgotten it until the image popped up here.

Indexed, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:16 (three years ago)

now it's a condo :(

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:18 (three years ago)

Ah, dammit--sorry, indexed. I'll take a look at that and recalculate. I won't start over, obviously, but if there are any changes, I'll at least make note of them before starting the Top 20.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 15:48 (three years ago)

I’m second guessing some of my votes for sure. I tried to balance personal affection with choices that were ‘fair’, but I think I skewed personal.

Kim, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 17:56 (three years ago)

I did it in maybe half an hour, sticking with songs I already knew well and generally going by gut feeling/personal affection, while limiting it to one per artist. There was a mild skew towards Mulroney's second term and Chrétien's first. I second-guess nothing, obviously.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 18:39 (three years ago)

I was aiming for a cross-section of "impressions of Canada", not really a scientific weighting of the best songs. I mean, I know that there are about seven songs each on Hejira and On the Beach that are better than Aldo Nova's "Fantasy", but I wanted to capture a certain "being driven to hockey practice at 7 AM and listening to the car radio" feel, despite never playing hockey.
On a related note, I found myself indulgent towards potentially silly songs I associate with being a kid, and much less so towards music that came out after I started paying "serious attention" (roughly Xmas 1983). So early Loverboy made the cut but the later era was shut-out.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:27 (three years ago)

In essence, I had to do it my way, or no way at all.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 19:29 (three years ago)

my ballot was half "this feels very Canadian and reminds me of listening to the radio as a kid" and half "some of my favorite songs which happen to be Canadian"

silverfish, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:56 (three years ago)

anyway, enjoying this rollout, so far have from my ballot there's "7/4 (shoreline)", "after the gold rush" and "sprawl II"

silverfish, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 20:58 (three years ago)

Indexed: I definitely messed up. I think it was a day where a few came in, and I looked at the top and saw 20, 19, 18, and figured the songs were in reverse order but 10 points for everything. Stupid. Anyway, I see a few in there that I've already counted down, so a couple of ties will probably be broken. I'll recalculate tonight and post a list of the proper 21-40 (or more), and then tomorrow's Top 20 will be correct.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 21:00 (three years ago)

Never mind! (Or: nevermind!) The points were entered correctly. All I messed up on was in not identifying "The Weight" as a #1 vote, and in my post about distributing the points evenly (not sure why I thought that). I didn't, happily.

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 21:14 (three years ago)

Ah glad to have not caused any issues! Thanks again.

Indexed, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 22:18 (three years ago)

Yesterday:

21. "Blinding Lights," The Weeknd - 54 ( 6 votes)
22. "These Eyes," Guess Who - 54 (4 votes, one #1 vote)
23. "7/4 (Shoreline)," Broken Social Scene - 53 (5 votes)
24. "The Safety Dance," Men Without Hats - 52 (6 votes)
25. "All the Things I Wasn't," Grapes of Wrath - 52 (5 votes)
26. "Barrett’s Privateers," Stan Rogers - 51 (3 votes)
27. "Let Your Backbone Slide," Maestro Fresh-Wes - 50 (6 votes)
28. (tie) "Sundown," Gordon Lightfoot - 50 (4 votes)
"So Long, Marianne," Leonard Cohen - 50 (4 votes)
"After the Gold Rush," Neil Young - 50 (4 votes)
"Subdivisions," Rush - 50 (4 votes)
32. (tie) "Étienne d’Août," Malajube - 50 (1 vote, one #1 vote)
"Like a Hurricane," Neil Young - 50 (1 vote, one #1 vote)
34. "For What It's Worth," Buffalo Springfield - 48 (6 votes)
35. (tie) "The House That Heaven Built," Japandroids - 47 (4 votes)
"Closer," Tegan & Sara - 47 (4 votes)
37. "Run Away with Me," Carly Rae Jepsen - 47 (3 votes)
38. "Limelight," Rush - 46 (4 votes)
39. (tie) "Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)," Arcade Fire - 45 (5 votes)
"Both of Us," Jayda G - 45 (5 votes)
"Home for a Rest," Spirit of the West - 45 (5 votes)
42. "The Weight," the Band - 45 (4 votes, one #1 vote)
43. (tie) "Anthems for a Seventeen Year-Old Girl," Broken Social Scene - 45 (3 votes)
"Early Morning Rain," Gordon Lightfoot - 45 (3 votes)

I'll start around noon tomorrow and finish up. I didn't count Stan Rogers as a #1, Matthew, because you gave it the same number of points as everything else...I'm a drag, a well-known drag.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:34 (three years ago)

I'll add literal spacing when I post the final list.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 00:35 (three years ago)

4 of my votes are on so far!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:22 (three years ago)

I think the only thing I voted for from this first lot was "Subdivisions." Always happy to see Men Without Hats love, even if they have better songs. Can't argue with "These Eyes," "After the Gold Rush," Lightfoot & Cohen. I realize Buffalo Springfield was 3/5 Canadian, but "FWIW" still feels wrong. Never cared for the Band, but can understand why others do. Roxy Music did a better "Like A Hurricane" IMHO. Picked a different Grapes of Wrath but am fond of this track. I dig Japandroids. Not feeling some of the others.

Kent Burt, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 01:27 (three years ago)

Only thing for me so far is Safety Dance. I kept it to one song per artist, and several have appeared with songs I didn't vote for, but when it came down to it I couldn't choose a Rush song so I left them off altogether.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 02:30 (three years ago)

three of my votes have landed so far (one was a surprise). there's about 10 left from my ballot that i would have expected to see in the top results, but there's no way 50% of what's left will have been things i voted for.
been listening to the nominations playlist and am surprised how many ubiquitous song from my youth were actually Canadian (Oh What Feeling, Sunny Days, Black cars). had no idea!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 13:42 (three years ago)

I didn't count Stan Rogers as a #1, Matthew, because you gave it the same number of points as everything else...

I also had Stan Rogers in a top space, though tied for points with two other songs.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 13:51 (three years ago)

i don't really get the balloting and i don't care lol. roll on

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:39 (three years ago)

also xp Cheers!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:39 (three years ago)

I have to finish before 4:00, and everything's basically ready, so I'm going to start a little early so I don't have to rush. I make mistakes when I rush. (I make mistakes when I don't rush, too.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:40 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/20-expecting.jpg

20. "Expecting to Fly" (1967)
Buffalo Springfield
56 points/5 votes
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:41 (three years ago)

good image/song combo lol

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:46 (three years ago)

I don't know if I do these the same way as everyone else. Most of the polls use a standard scoring system; I open that up, modelled after Pazz & Jop.

For me, a #1 song would, by definition, have the most points on your ballot. Saying your list is ranked, but giving the same number of points to all songs, or even the top two, that doesn't feel like a #1. Indexed did give "The Weight" the most points on his ballot--I messed up there. But your ballot just listed 40 songs, maffhew. Stan Rogers was at the top, but they weren't numbered or given different points.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:47 (three years ago)

(xpost) Thanks...such an unforgettable photo.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:47 (three years ago)

The "Expecting to Fly" video highly recommended to anyone who loves Gus Van Sant's Gerry.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:50 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/19-nova.jpg

19. "Nova Heart" (1982)
Spoons
57 points/5 votes
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:54 (three years ago)

That was a bit of a surprise. I kind of liked "Old Emotions" at the time.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 14:55 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/18-pardon.jpg

18. "I Beg Your Pardon" (1988)
Kon Kan
58 points/4 votes
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:11 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/17-destroyer.jpg

17. "Kaputt" (2011)
Destroyer
61 points/4 votes
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:22 (three years ago)

Oh I would've pushed Kon Kan higher if I'd been thinking straight while voting.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:24 (three years ago)

Maybe I should gone for the euphonious pairing of "Kaputt" and Kawhi...I don't know anything about Destroyer. I think I thought they were heavy metal till listening to this. The Kon Kan song is fantastic. That and "Steal My Sunshine" and "Drinking in L.A." go together in my mind because of their famous samples.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:25 (three years ago)

The best thing about this poll for me was reminding me that "I Beg Your Pardon" exists, an almost perfect slice of peak new wave, a song I somehow always seem to have in my head even when I'm not consciously thinking about it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:27 (three years ago)

When I was at CIUT in the late '80s (the University of Toronto station), I think Barry Harris--Kon Kan, basically--had a show there, although he may have given it up during that window to focus on making music.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:32 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/16-craving.jpg

16. "Constant Craving" (1992)
k.d. lang
63 points/6 votes
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:40 (three years ago)

Too low!

*checks ballot*

oops

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:44 (three years ago)

same

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:44 (three years ago)

Which one of the Seven is the guy looking down at his cell phone?

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:47 (three years ago)

really glad to see that track make it.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:49 (three years ago)

https://phildellio.tripod.com/15-cortez.jpg

15. "Cortez the Killer" (1975)
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
70 points/5 votes/one #1 vote
video

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:50 (three years ago)

If you're thinking "nothing but Neil Young and Joni Mitchell the rest of the way," no, not at all. They're there, but I think only three more between the two of them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 May 2023 15:52 (three years ago)


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