Big Thief - Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe In You

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That’s great… a whole album there.

morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Saturday, 15 April 2023 15:43 (three years ago)

I'm reminded of the story about David Geffen asking Joni Mitchell to write a "single," so she came up with You Turn Me On, I'm a Radio, except I think this is a better song than that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 15 April 2023 16:55 (three years ago)

one month passes...

Texas-bred singer/songwriter and Big Thief guitarist Buck Meek has signed to 4AD and announces his new album, Haunted Mountain, out 25th August on 4AD. Additionally, he shares the lead single and title track, 'Haunted Mountain'; a song co-written alongside his friend and longtime hero Jolie Holland.

Buck Meek - Haunted Mountain
4AD

1. Mood Ring
2. Haunted Mountain
3. Paradise
4. Cyclades
5. Secret Side
6. Didn’t Know You Then
7. Undae Dunes
8. Where You’re Coming From
9. Lullabies
10. Lagrimas
11. The Rainbow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8uI2VXppA

Indexed, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:41 (three years ago)

one month passes...

"vampire empire" is out july 19!

they recorded it & "born for loving you" back in april while on tour, so there's probably not a new album on the way yet unless they've been recording more the last two months or have decided to put out the dwnmibiy outtakes

ufo, Monday, 10 July 2023 23:31 (two years ago)

"vampire empire" will probably be a completely different arrangement to the incredible colbert version though, with how much they've been experimenting with it on tour

ufo, Monday, 10 July 2023 23:34 (two years ago)

full band "born for loving you" is here

ufo, Monday, 10 July 2023 23:44 (two years ago)

Vampire just dropped:
https://bigthief.bandcamp.com/album/vampire-empire-born-for-loving-you

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 04:09 (two years ago)

Fantastic song, imo

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 04:13 (two years ago)

i really miss the flute from the colbert performance but i'm glad this is pretty close to that arrangement, and that new section in the middle is nice

ufo, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 05:00 (two years ago)

There are apparently so many complaints in the comments to the band's IG post that they added this 2 hrs. later:

for those who prefer the “live” version you can always go listen to the “live” version. But to clarify-
Recordings are records of us playing live, so you can look at it like this: the live version you may prefer exists and now another version exists. Every time we play it, it is a different version. We weren’t gonna go into the studio and try to replicate what we played on Colbert… plus there’s no way it would’ve been the same, because songs are vessels for the expressions of our present selves, and not highly manicured concoctions polished to be consumed based on demand.

That being said though, you can still listen to that version anytime you want, because is was recorded and exists on the internet. Now this exists too! The only difference is that the Colbert version isn’t available through every single streaming service :)

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:12 (two years ago)

They really need to ignore this kind of shit.

It's not, like, problematic. It's just not worth their time!

alpine static, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:15 (two years ago)

Yeah I agree

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

flute also did not sound good

New No-No Bettencourt (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:28 (two years ago)

Ugh I would really like to see them but $80 to see them in the park?

JoeStork, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:35 (two years ago)

i just saw them last night and "Vampire Empire" was much closer to the version they just released and it was fantastic. Not missing anything with the absent flute. Was a little sad to hear "Spud Infinity" without the jaw harp though.

They seem to like to mess around with their songs quite a bit, which imo is a great sign for a band, relentlessly creative. They played "Certainty" more or less like the album, maybe a little more oomph to it, and then Adrianne made a comment about how she hasn't really been feeling the rocking out aspect and has been wanting to do it more softly. Then she played it again as a soft, tender ballad. It was really beautiful.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 19:39 (two years ago)

i don't really get all the complaints because this is hardly a case of the arrangement being radically different, or the song being ruined or anything. i miss the flute but it's not a big deal at all. if they'd ditched the arrangement completely for the punk version or something i'd have been amused but more disappointed. my only actual complaint is that it's a fairly raw-sounding recording, it's very roomy.

i would still like to hear the unreleased studio version of the rock "dragon" but it's not like the completely different album version was remotely bad either.

ufo, Thursday, 20 July 2023 06:15 (two years ago)

Great little Pfork write-up: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/big-thief-vampire-empire/

As (maybe?) 2021's #1 "Time Escaping" Live on YouTube Fan, I was admittedly a bit flummoxed when the album cut of that song was released... but I figured I'd come to love it, and I certainly didn't go posting "THIS SUCKS" on Instagram (which was one of the thoughtful comments I saw).

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:31 (two years ago)

(...saw for "Vampire Empire," to clarify)

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:33 (two years ago)

...except for that bit about Elliot Smith.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:39 (two years ago)

(haha, I was willing to let that go)

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:40 (two years ago)

never followed this band but listened to the newly released song followed by the performance on Colbert.

the studio version is better. her vocal performance is stronger on it. the flute doesn't really add anything except that it makes the guitar sound craggier in relation. it feels extraneous.

suspect people only prefer the Colbert version because it's familiar.

maybe i should listen to this band idk. i don't usually like straight up indie rock but Lenker seems like she has more to offer.

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 20 July 2023 16:55 (two years ago)

They really need to ignore this kind of shit.

younger bands are bad at ignoring stuff, and what's more, they can get press for responding, so they usually do.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 July 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

honestly the biggest problem with all versions of this song is i can’t stop hearing “empty tushy fills, alive tushy kills”

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:54 (two years ago)

Hahaha, I didn't wanna say it....

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:59 (two years ago)

sounding wonderful on the p4k stream and generously playing a ton of new material

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:00 (two years ago)

lmao what the hell is this vocal effect on "spud infinity"

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:54 (two years ago)

james is doing pitched-up autotune harmonies on it and it is deeply bizarre

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 02:56 (two years ago)

I was there in person and I dunno what you are talking about. Great set.

jaymc, Sunday, 23 July 2023 03:43 (two years ago)

it was very clear in the stream audio, in the right channel only

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 03:49 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgwBsusfEI0

this'll probably get taken down at some point, but "spud infinity" is at 1:17:45 if you want to hear the goofy vocal effects.

other highlights are an acoustic "words" (0:00), born for loving you (17:40), "seam" and "free treasure" (48:20), and "happiness" (1:06:00)

ufo, Sunday, 23 July 2023 21:14 (two years ago)

I'm all for the wacky outfits, but I would draw the line at a mermaid's tail. No mermaid's tail or gtfo, guy.

alpine static, Monday, 24 July 2023 18:29 (two years ago)

https://soundcloud.com/97tlr/forgiver

thinking about this 10 minute version of unreleased track "black crow" (aka "forgiver") where they go fully crazy horse

ufo, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 11:37 (two years ago)

i haven't seen the colbert version but i just listened to the new "vampire empire" on spotify and it seems good? seems like a song that could have been on the last album maybe with a bit of two hands era

the whole online thing w/this band is really weird, seems like a band to just listen to and never talk about on social media

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 16:46 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8fQGCc_O18

gorgeous sprawling new song

ufo, Thursday, 27 July 2023 07:33 (two years ago)

Wonderful, yeah

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Friday, 28 July 2023 02:50 (two years ago)

Another one from Buck Meek's alb, out 8/25:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njKwzygKaRY

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:29 (two years ago)

Classic Country style: you open for, then play with the Big Star er Thief

Buck Meek - Live at The Studio at The Factory, Deep Ellum, Dallas, TX 2/12/2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-PSK8U6DfM

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:34 (two years ago)

yas?

an American musician from Wimberley, Texas, best known as the guitarist and backing vocalist of Big Thief.

#buckmeek

00:00 Cannonball! Pt. 2
04:40 Haunted Mountain
09:58 Pareidolia
14:33 Where You're Coming From
18:53 Second Sight
24:05 Paradise
27:41 Secret Life
32:20 The Undae Dunes
34:54 Stories
40:30 Sam Bridges (with Adrianne Lenker)

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:37 (two years ago)

Just now learned that he plays in Shadow Kingdom. Main way now to see it seems to be on pbs.org, though you gotta sign up and get that Passport app (get to watch a lot of other, of course). I saw it during fundraiser (they didn't interrupt with membership pitches): mostly real good, with a few that sounded too slow on the audio-only (now CD/LP)improved by visuals; all the guitar is good for sure.

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

Sign up and donate, that is. I'm a noob to all this, didn't know about Two Saviors (& wasn't he invited to be on My Rough and Rowdy Ways?
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/big-thiefs-buck-meek-announces-new-album-two-saviors-shares-second-sight/

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:00 (two years ago)

As it turns out, he didn’t actually play on Shadow Kingdom, though he was one of the musicians that “finger synched” in the video recording along with the previously recorded tracks:

Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, harmonica
Alex Burke, guitar (Finger synching)
Buck Meek, guitar (Finger synching)
Shahzad Ismaily, accordion (Finger synching)
Janie Cowan, upright bass (Finger synching)
Joshua Crumbly, guitar (Finger synching)

The actual recording personnel, though not listed anywhere, is believed to have been:

Bob Dylan – vocals, guitar, harmonica
Jeff Taylor – accordion
Greg Leisz – guitar, pedal steel guitar, mandolin
Tim Pierce – guitar
T-Bone Burnett – guitar
Ira Ingber – guitar
Don Was – upright bass
John Avila – electric bass
Doug Lacy – accordion
Steve Bartek – additional acoustic guitar

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:24 (two years ago)

Weird. Thanks!

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

Whaaaat

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 23:35 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1lnubtQvOQ

this "dragon" is fantastic but lmao they're really into those goofy autotune backing vocals right now huh

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:11 (two years ago)

looking forward to the next album going full bon iver

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:12 (two years ago)

What a strange effect… is James triggering/playing that somehow? Yeah the performance is awesome though.

(I offered to buy my dad tickets to that show, but admission was GA only and that didn’t really work)

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:21 (two years ago)

james' backing vocals are being fed through a bunch of effects including autotune yeah

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:24 (two years ago)

i'm seeing them friday evening, will report back on goofy autotune use

Clay, Thursday, 3 August 2023 06:42 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WmyWQPxMus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwd8iJ1uhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILvivIkUic8

seems like they were in a really jammy mood at that show

ufo, Thursday, 3 August 2023 10:04 (two years ago)

They are some excellent performances, thanks for sharing

hrep (H.P), Thursday, 3 August 2023 11:13 (two years ago)


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