― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
T Dream got way, way worse than amon duul ever did. The worst AD acheived was utter mediocrity, TD, early eighties onwards, are actually offensive to listen to. Also, not AD equivalent of the "dream mixes". I don't think you can go far wrong w/any /70's TD, though.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Whereas Amon Duul II's "Hijack", which came out in 1974, is rubbish
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pangolino 2, Friday, 12 August 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.connollyco.com/discography/tangerine_dream/
Scroll down to "Hyperborea" which is probably the last one I could stand to listen to, and then see how much further you have to scroll down to to get to the bottom (metaphorically & literally!)
"Stratosfear" is one of my favourites, I must admit.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Can: Monster Movie; Tago Mago; Ege Bamyasi; Future Days; Soon Over BabalumaFaust: The Wumme Years (Faust; So Far; Faust Tapes; 71 Minutes; BBC Sessions +); IVNeu!: Neu!; Neu! 2; Neu! '75
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually pashmina would love these shops.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
please, someone, find me a genre this isn't true of.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 12 August 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link
following a lengthy, drunken and immensely enjoyable chat with my biopsychology tutor, during which i explained how my knowledge of krautrock is patchy as fuck, he presented me with a CD on wednesday containing the following albums:
amon düül II: yetiash ra tempel: seven upcan: future dayscluster: zuckerzeitharmonia: deluxeklaus schulze: blackdancela düsseldorf: la düsseldorfmichael rother: radio (singles)tangerine dream: poland (warsaw concert)
it is blowing my little mind. zuckerzeit ... i can't believe that was 1974. 1974! and right now i'm grooving happily, privately to michael rother.
i didn't realise how richly melodic so much of this was; i've always thought, aye, krautrock, chugga-CHUGGA-chugga-CHUGGA, nice one. but really, i feel whole new musical vistas are opening up here. surprisingly, the one i engaged with the least (which doesn't mean i didn't enjoy it; just that it didn't captivate me as much) was future days.
not listened to the acid-drenched ash ra tempel thing yet: really looking forward to that.
― remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:05 (fifteen years ago) link
All those albums on one CD?
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
-rom, then. smartarse ;)
― remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:10 (fifteen years ago) link
(although it did confuse the shit out of me at first when i looked at the tracklisting: he said he'd do me a krautrock sampler, and i thought it was going to be a mix.)
― remorseful prober (grimly fiendish), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link
You should get the top 50 albums in julian copes list then get the rest!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
"Future Days" isn't in his Top 50
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Along with some other kanonikal albums
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Part of me wonders if Jaki Liebezeit had never made that comment about not being a fan of Future Days whether it would just be universally regarded as their best album.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 November 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't. It wouldn't.
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 1 November 2008 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Perhaps because you've been completely taken with the narrative that it's somehow a "weaker" entry in their catalogue. It's not.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 1 November 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't imagine how Future Days can be considered a weaker album.
― Marco Damiani, Sunday, 2 November 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Exactly.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 November 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
agreed
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 2 November 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link
it's the album I listen to most these (not so future) days
But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue! I've been saying here for years that it's overrated and I think about three people have agreed with me in as many years!
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link
It is? Over Monster Movie and Tago Mago?
I must have missed that conference.
― Mark G, Monday, 3 November 2008 12:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know what won the poll here, it might even have been "Ege Bamyasi", but "Future Days" tends to have the most rhapsodic bollocks written about it
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway Jaki might not like "Future Days" but Holger does - FITE!
― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Monday, 3 November 2008 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Tago Mago is amazing, also Monster Movie and Soundtracks
― I know, right?, Monday, 3 November 2008 12:43 (fifteen years ago) link
But it isn't, it's probably the single most celebrated album in their catalogue!
Well...it probably was in the early 1990's. But Future Days is not even close to being the most celebrated in their catalogue at this point. Once Liebezeit's quote got out there, and Cope didn't even include it among the essential Can records (the single biggest oversight in Krautrocksampler), it really took a backseat to Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 November 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Tell me a bit more about that Cluster album, grimly. There's a fantastic track on the new Optimo mix which has made me want to investigate further.
― Neil S, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. Tago Mago and Ege Bamyasi are by far more critically (and fan) favored. But Future Days is my fave.
― dan selzer, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Hear hear
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
"future days is only their most celebrated because it makes a nice t-shirt. "
truthbomb
― I know, right?, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
"ege bamyasi makes a nice stew with bits of beef and carrots and that..."
― Mark G, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link
has anyone read this article by Klaus D. Mueller from Perfect Sound Forever?
http://www.furious.com/perfect/krautrock.html
totally dismissive of a lot of things- what a crabby dude. but i do agree with his opinions re: julian cope/krautrocksampler, that guy does an awful lot of blathering about mediocre records
― psychgawsple, Monday, 3 November 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link
re: mueller, it seemed like pretty standard "I CAST DOWN YOUR IDOLS THUSLY!" contrarian bullshit in 1997, it still does now.
― ROBIN TROUSERS (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
but you are all missing the point here, having to pick between different CAN albums (at least Tago Mago, Ege Bamyasi and Future Days) is like having to pick between one's children. there is such a thing as loving them just as much for different reasons. I think.
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i have no problem picking tago mago. the other two are good, but neither has anything like the first two sides of tago mago. not that anyone else does either
― kamerad, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 03:20 (fifteen years ago) link
wasn't suggesting the article was new, just surprised there was no mention of it anywhere on this thread, especially with all that cope-talk
― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I just read it: It doesn't seem so far from anything, really.
Imagine somebody from Germany writing a fanbook about UK punk (1976-1978), and going off to ask Vini Reilly about it.
For all that both are personal opinions, (the Cope book and the mueller article, I don't have the other books), neither states that the other should not exist.
It's like the recent thread about the 'critically reviled by musicians, but loved by the hipsters' thread. Or was that the other way around?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 08:25 (fifteen years ago) link