pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Neanderthal, you so two thousand and late

For some reason I read that too fast as "Where Is My Towel?" and now I'm pondering this BEP/Pixies/TMBG/Weird Al crossover.

Throw Douglas Adams in there too.

I was at Six Flags with my kid this weekend and was just struck by the supreme beauty of I Gotta Feeling. It almost made me cry tears of joy.

We love "I Gotta Feeling" because we have built up this secret mythology that Will.I.Am kept getting invited to perform at a lot of fancy industry-people bar mitzvahs until it occurred to him to create the perfect fun for the whole family bar mitzvah song. "Fill up my cup (Drank)/Mazel tov (L'chaim)," indeed.

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6mtj6yGkCw

jesus, fuck tweedy

idk if he's his type

very dumb but made me laugh

as far as this era of pop songs is on the table, the one that is absolutely a NO NO NO NO NO from me is "Moves Like Jagger." I would rather drink Will.I.Am's fetid urine than ever hear "Moves Like Jagger" ever again.

thanking u

For me, it's "Roar." Will always associate it with the Clinton campaign.

"Accidental Racist" may have been the nadir of that era

but did provide one of the most entertaining ILX discussions from that era

my humps is so much better than where is the love tf

My Humps is a like, worst of the 21st century nominee

nothing sampling 'I need a freak' can be that bad

Every Maroon 5 song after "Jagger" turned into a tenement fire set by a far.

*fart

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A can of orange White Claw has subtly disappeared, Kubrick-style

I’d be embarrassed to have to summarize a Rolling Stone puff piece about something this dumb, add that a related Instagram story “was viewed by Pitchfork,” and call it reporting.

i don't think anyone is claiming that's reporting

OK, I'd be embarrassed to put it in the News section of my music website

Time to find another beat then.

Good idea – I'm gonna turn the tables and start a blog that ONLY rewrites articles about imagined beefs that stans are tweeting about, so ppl will scratch their heads when actual news slips in.

(only beefs that have already been confirmed not to exist, of course)

Onlybeefs is a good website idea

Here’s an article that makes almost comically liberal use of notorious weasel words “allegedly” and “claimed” (a Pitchfork favorite). It’s really irritating, if you care about news writing.

(I found it through a link in another article that mentions these guys’ “alleged experience”).

In the interest of being Fair and Balanced, I thought this was a good piece.

lol they are covering this like watergate

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/an-interview-with-the-teenager-who-livestreamed-frank-oceans-coachella-set/#intcid=_pitchfork-bottom-recirc_66f1f5ef-762b-423d-ab66-94394752db76_cral2-2_fallback_popular4-1

I got there at about 9 a.m. and waited in the sun for three hours till doors opened at noon. Then I sprinted as fast as I could to the barricade, and me and my two friends sat there for the next 11 hours.

So basically she waited the length of a flight to Australia.

Today's Jessie Ware review needs a few more hyperlinks, IMO

Here’s an article that makes almost comically liberal use of notorious weasel words “allegedly” and “claimed” (a Pitchfork favorite). It’s really irritating, if you care about news writing.

(I found it through a link in another article that mentions these guys’ “alleged experience”).

― morrisp.fandom.com (morrisp), Thursday, April 20, 2023 10:39 AM (one week ago)

the reason why this happens is bcuz the potential legal exposure if you don't properly couch every claim (multi million dollar lawsuit that doesn't even need to have a solid legal framework) is not worth the upside you get when you publish a basic news blog (four-to-five digit pageview totals). i agree w/ you that it's annoying to read but the economics of the web publishing industry combined w/ the litigious attacks on the press in the last handful of years is why news bloggers are forced to use words like "allegedly" and "claimed" a comical amount of time. take it up w/ peter thiel

They're owned by Condé Nast.

I don't think Condé Nast wants to fight multi-million dollar lawsuits over a four paragraph blog post either, even if they're privately held and not accountable to public shareholders

You can just throw in some qualifiers and have the vague legal sense that you're weakening possible legal action

I don't think Condé Nast wants to fight multi-million dollar lawsuits over a four paragraph blog post either, even if they're privately held and not accountable to public shareholders

You can just throw in some qualifiers and have the vague legal sense that you're weakening possible legal action

― mh, Tuesday, May 2, 2023 11:41 AM (forty-eight minutes ago)

ding ding ding

Flexing his skills pays off in lines like, “No security, my brothers gon’ step, Will Ferrell” but also flounders: “My homeboy just beat cancer/I call my ex, no answer.” You win some, you lose some!

lol at this point Paper Bag rap lines are lyrically lyrical shit

xp Here's Rolling Stone and Billboard reporting on the same podcast episode – they each use "said," "recalled," "explained," "described" (etc.) to describe what the hockey players said. (Billboard also uses the terms "allegedly" and "claimed" once each; RS not at all.) Why are these publications less skittish?

Who cares? Why do you care so much about this damn website?

It's also possible that Pitchfork's writers are younger, less experienced with legal niceties, thus to use more awkward qualifiers.

to=the

Why do you care so much about this damn website?

Well I read it regularly; I find it to be very poorly edited for a site owned by a major media company; and this is a thread for discussing that. I'm happy to stop bumping the thread if it's irritating (though I thought that's what the thread was for).

I think part of it is the contrast btw their big ambitions – and the fact that they do have good, in-depth reporting (like the piece I linked to above) – and the podunk quality of some of the editing, lack of copy editing, etc. If it were Brooklyn Vegan or something I wouldn't bother.

haha i don't think morrisp should be the fall guy for 21 years of ilx nitpicking pitchfork

My local newspaper, around for a century, fired several more copy editors yesterday. It's been a problem for two decades.

Allegedly

, claimed Soto.

lol

Just to be clear, I do put the onus on the editors (not the writers). If the writers are inexperienced, the editors should (ideally) guide them! The same applies when a record review seems poorly organized, etc.

Here's Rolling Stone and Billboard reporting on the same podcast episode – they each use "said," "recalled," "explained," "described" (etc.) to describe what the hockey players said. (Billboard also uses the terms "allegedly" and "claimed" once each; RS not at all.) Why are these publications less skittish?

― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Tuesday, May 2, 2023 12:43 PM (thirty-five minutes ago)

it's hard to say... i wouldn't describe them as less skittish. the answer is probably that they're less organized. pitchfork has had the same news editor for like 15+ years, i think they prob have a more sound editorial structure in place, guidelines that the writing team knows to follow etc. having worked adjacent to billboard personally for several years.... they're less, um, journalistically rigorous than lots of their competitors, i'll just put it that way. rolling stone i've never worked at so idk how they operate... they've also had some major editorial screw ups even very recently (for example) so i'm not sure i'd hold them up as a bastion of editorial standards either

to be clear morris, i don't disagree w/ you. when i was still working at a music website where i was touching 5+ news stories per day we had convos about the creep of "allegedly" into a lot of our news stories where it felt like the allegations didn't really need that addendum. news orgs probably could stand to swing the pendulum back in the other direction, but again the risk-reward calculus is incredibly out of balance bcuz you don't even need to have merit to a lawsuit to stick a website running on small margins (all of them) w/ a legal bill they can't really afford. and that goes for pitchfork and conde too