pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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All I need from a U2 review is the names of the band members:
Bonobos, Thedge, Adam Clay Two Thousand Pounds, Larry Mullen Srs.' Son

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

AARP sponsored content...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsEvGoWaUAA3ZYq.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 26 March 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

Well if you were in college when Talking Heads and Television debuts came out you could collect Social Security now

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 26 March 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link

xp That doesn’t look like actual content on their site(?) I think it’s just an ad (being served up to you!)

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Sunday, 26 March 2023 01:39 (one year ago) link

Nice find:

you would never guess in a million years what album’s pitchfork review opens with this paragraph pic.twitter.com/1p7PaYV299

— collin (@spiketvviewer) March 30, 2023

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Friday, 31 March 2023 03:47 (one year ago) link

Luckily for Gillian Welch, the path to acclaim in the folk-country genre doesn't require moving to Oklahoma, Appalachia, or a Mississippi riverbank. Nor does it call for songs about killing people, peddling crack, or mining for black ass-gold (in fact, the latter is probably anathema to the cause). Rather, it's just fine if you sound like you know what you're doing and appreciate tradition, and Welch achieves that with ease.

Well she did move to Nashville in 1992

omar little, Friday, 31 March 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link

ass-gold

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 31 March 2023 14:06 (one year ago) link

xpost - my wife spent some time working with AARP on a campaign and I can assure you that Gen X is their prime ad demographic. they don't aim at people they know are retirement age, but those heading that way. so makes total sense that Pitchfork would be in an ad buy.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 31 March 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link

Fun fact, iirc you can join AARP before retirement age.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 March 2023 15:12 (one year ago) link

yes, it was called Dad Rock

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 31 March 2023 15:30 (one year ago) link

Fun fact, iirc you can join AARP before retirement age.

They used to be spookily good at sending you mailers the minute you turned 50, but neither my wife nor I have seen anything.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link

I'm a CARP (Canadian) because of a cheap cellphone plan I got once. They market to seniors. Ironically they're called Zoomer Wireless. I guess it has been around a while.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link

Ha ha... in another 40 years or so, their name will be in sync.

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Friday, 31 March 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

"Aarp" - the sound of turning 50

jmm, Friday, 31 March 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

Boygenius are currently featured six (6) times on Pfork's front page  – i.e., via items displaying their name or pic (not counting a seventh feature in which they also appear). That's a lotta Boygenius!

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Saturday, 1 April 2023 02:49 (one year ago) link

Korg AARP Odyssey

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 April 2023 12:29 (one year ago) link

no comments on this big "blurred lines" ruination of society piece?

i couldn't get far either

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

I read it but didn’t care for it. It’s one of those things that recaps a bunch of bummer stuff you already know, to unclear purpose/arguably unsound thesis (I also didn’t care for the way it addressed the infringement lawsuit).

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

is it time for the 10s discourse revival already

Left, Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork Reviews Reviews nostalgia

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

is it time for the 10s discourse revival already

please no i shouldn't feel this old already

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 1 April 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link

the piece itself wasn't that great or well-structured, but i enjoyed it as a longtime blurred lines hater; very much in a "yeah what other toxic bullshit can we link to that trash?" way. so yeah, i appreciated the piece calling out the song for the toxic bullshit that it was all along. i drink a very bitter haterade, so it's nice to be acknowledged by other connoisseurs from time to time.

''i am the kanye west kanye west thinks he is.'' (Austin), Saturday, 1 April 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork Reviews Reviews nostalgia

― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, April 1, 2023

yes

Dan S, Sunday, 2 April 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

also Hipster Runoff

Dan S, Sunday, 2 April 2023 00:14 (one year ago) link

“blurred lines” is a great song, so are “we can’t stop” and “wreckingball”. 2013 was an iconic year for music

flopson, Sunday, 2 April 2023 04:21 (one year ago) link

This part of the essay makes no sense to me:

Songs that exert this kind of stranglehold on the public imagination always wear out their welcome, but there is a special kind of vitriol reserved for the ones that are upbeat, peppy, or salacious. If Mariah Carey’s soaring breakup ballad “We Belong Together,” a song that spent 14 weeks at the top spot in 2005, came on while you were waiting in line for coffee, you might not wince. But imagine your reaction to Flo Rida’s “Low” (10 weeks in 2008) or the Black-Eyed Peas’ “I Gotta Feeling” (14 weeks, 2009) playing over those same coffee-shop speakers. Things curdle when left under a spotlight for that long.


My reaction if “Low” or “I Gotta Feeling” came on would be to bop my head! The idea that “upbeat, peppy, or salacious” songs curdle from overexposure feels straight-up wrong (and including “salacious” in the list is putting finger on scale… obv “Low” may not be appropriate for all settings, but that has nothing to do with the point being made).

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Sunday, 2 April 2023 04:52 (one year ago) link

Probably the only time since (pre-teenage) childhood I've ever felt fully in tune with the world was the rollout of Random Access Memories.

And yet my favourite UK no. 1 of 2013 is still the one from 1994. :S

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 2 April 2023 04:54 (one year ago) link

My personal feeling is that 2013 was the last time pop genuinely felt huge, to me in my increasingly shelled up existence. I can still recall how most of the (again UK) no. 1s from that year go like. Come 2016 and there's a 15-week Drake number one that I didn't even know existed until a few years later.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 2 April 2023 04:56 (one year ago) link

I thought the Blurred Lines essay was good on a first quick readthrough. like it or not, that song -- and all the discourse around it -- really does feel like a turning point in pop culture.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 2 April 2023 08:53 (one year ago) link

The Warren Zevon lead review today is really good. I had never listened to the album in full but between the two compilations I've owned over the years — A Quiet Normal Life: The Best of Warren Zevon and I'll Sleep When I'm Dead: An Anthology — I had heard all but three songs.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

Cush is one of their best.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 April 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

I thought the blurred lines piece was real good w a complex subject. My only quibbles were I think it bears noting that robin thicke's fanbased up until blurred lines was predominantly black R&B fans, seems like a relevant point; and that robin thicke using a sarcastic voice, "as if this provided mitigating context," sounds like it does in fact provide mitigating context, but he kind of reports it like its an ad hoc mea culpa

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 3 April 2023 07:05 (one year ago) link

on the whole tho, again, I thought it handled a pretty layered conversation admirably

xheugy eddy (D-40), Monday, 3 April 2023 07:05 (one year ago) link

I'd have been more favourably receptive to that very well-written Warren Zevon review if the rating had been anything but a 10 (for an album where I only really like two songs).

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 3 April 2023 11:36 (one year ago) link

Depends what you want from critical writing. I don't expect my judgments to coincide with the writer's; I get off on the insights and turns of phrase.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 April 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link

Someone pointed out on Twitter that it was weird that the name Linda Ronstadt didn't appear anywhere in the Zevon review. I mean yeah, the album came out and did OK on its own, but Ronstadt's covers of "Poor Poor Pitiful Me" and "Carmelita" and "Hasten Down The Wind" probably did as much to get his name out there as anything he did on his own.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 3 April 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

I don't expect my judgments to coincide with the writer's

Nor do I, but anybody's perfect score feels really pushy: "you can't not love this!"

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link

Resist, my son.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

I have fought dragons like My Boring Dull Torpid Fantasies before.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link

I also understand that, for every decimal point they go below 10, fewer listeners will be inspired to listen to any vintage record they review.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link

My reaction if “Low” or “I Gotta Feeling” came on would be to bop my head! The idea that “upbeat, peppy, or salacious” songs curdle from overexposure feels straight-up wrong (and including “salacious” in the list is putting finger on scale… obv “Low” may not be appropriate for all settings, but that has nothing to do with the point being made).

Discarding the specific examples, I'd say an overplayed ballad often feels more like an ambient irritation, while an overplayed uptempo number tends to have a stronger hook to remember, which is a double edged sword. Huge generalization I know.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 4 April 2023 09:46 (one year ago) link

Overplayed uptempo numbers tend towards the coercive.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 10:11 (one year ago) link

I think for me, the worst kind of overplayed song is something like Semisonic's "Closing Time" (or, to choose songs I "actually like"), "Losing My Religion," or "Sweet Child O' Mine"... mid-tempo rockers with insistent rhythms that leave no breathing room.

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 14:27 (one year ago) link

Overplayed uptempo numbers tend towards the coercive.


But coercion to DANCE is preferable, imho, than coercion to weep, which is why Adele will be a sworn enemy until I die.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

Oh, I didn't have dance tracks in mind -- always the exception.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

I cannot hear "uptempo [god-damn] numbers" without thinking of Casey Kasem's hilarious outtake!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYK2H0ldbo

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

Ha ha... I don't even have to watch that, it's burned into my brain :)

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

Yeah! The one where he butchers the radio station name, then just yells, "Oh, FUCK!"

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Tuesday, 4 April 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link

good discussion upthread but IMHO the only valid reaction to hearing "I Gotta Feeling" in 2023 is immediately setting the building you're in on fire until it stops

Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 April 2023 20:39 (one year ago) link

the only reason why it's not BEP's worst song is because they have so many worse, i.e. "My Humps".

I think the only ones I like are "Where is the Love?" and "Let's Get It Started"

Trout Fishing in America (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 April 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link


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