the first two Frank Black records are great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 02:33 (one year ago) link
First three are fantastic, I love them as much as Pixies stuff although there are patchy areas but I feel that way about some Pixies albums too
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 21 March 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link
I've probably posted this before, but my favorite post-Pixies thing he's done is the Golem rock album from 2011.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link
I should also say that although you'd probably not get him working on an album for several years, he has done pretty much what he wanted, I can't see a lot of pandering at all. Most of his solo stuff had a blues-country rock thing and it actually intensified around the time of the reunion and Grand Duchy seemed pretty different from what little I've heard of that. A good chunk of this stuff might sound unrecognizable to fans of early Pixies.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
I never noticed this before- that sublime “and evolving from the sea” section of The Sad Punk is almost surely a callback to the “and when you’re high” section of Welcome to the Jungle. Very similar(almost transcendent) feel to me.
― epistantophus, Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link
Apparently Paz got fired. Speculation is that it was for publicly supporting Ariel Pink. Wonder if Black still fires people by fax.
While still far short of the original run, I actually thought the two albums with Paz were the most interesting things they'd done since the reunion.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:29 (two months ago) link
I wondered about the Pink thing but her posts about that were some time ago at this point. Either way too bad, as I am a big fan of hers in general and only last week was thinking I might bother to see the pIxies again the next time they come through mainly because she's playing with them.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 March 2024 15:39 (two months ago) link
Maybe she really did want to move on and work on her own stuff?
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 March 2024 17:27 (two months ago) link
I mean, she herself described it as firing..
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― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 March 2024 17:32 (two months ago) link
(fwiw she appears to have since deleted that one and her public statements have been more balanced)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 7 March 2024 17:34 (two months ago) link
ahhhhh, nm
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 March 2024 17:52 (two months ago) link
lots of rumors circulating that she's a right wing loon, but these seem to be based off her Pink defense plus she posted something when javier milei won in Argentina that some took as support. But there doesn't seem to be any other evidence.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:24 (two months ago) link
lol at losing Paz damaging the Pixies permanently. You can't kill what is already dead!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 14:29 (two months ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, March 8, 2024 8:24 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah but there's always more, i can't think of one time when an artist had some little flirtations with right wing/terf whatever stuff and it didn't end up being worse
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:36 (two months ago) link
Barbara Motchan@barbara_motchan·Mar 5Replying to @PIXIESPaz made the Pixies who they are today!! The Pixies will be nothing now without Paz. Just tell the truth.....
BLACK FRANCIS, YOU FIRED PAZ!!
lmao
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:38 (two months ago) link
I mean, I will say the two studio albums she played on were miles better than any of the other reunion era studio stuff, but I'm not sure how much credit she takes for that.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 March 2024 14:53 (two months ago) link
she wrote a bunch of stuff on beyond the eirie or whatever it's called, but it's still not like, great. It's ok.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 8 March 2024 15:37 (two months ago) link
Neil Young, but that was the '80s - most of America was crazy for Reagan.
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:10 (two months ago) link
But yeah, I can't say it's a big loss. I can't see anyone getting nostalgic for the Paz-era of the Pixies 20 years from now.
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:12 (two months ago) link
maybe they'll hire a third Kim
― alpine static, Friday, 8 March 2024 19:45 (two months ago) link
Jong Un
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:49 (two months ago) link
nah the band already has a dictator
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 8 March 2024 19:50 (two months ago) link
They shouldn't hire but they should back Kim Carnes for an album, how random and awesome would that be?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:17 (two months ago) link
ha ha ha
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:33 (two months ago) link
Kim Gordon joins and they reinvent themselves as mumbletrap.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 8 March 2024 20:36 (two months ago) link
As long as it isn't Kim Mitchell.
― MarkoP, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:40 (two months ago) link
Thought the thread revive was for the BBC Sessions album which came out today and rocks super hard. Version of “In Heaven” is brutal and beautiful.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 8 March 2024 20:58 (two months ago) link
It's just the vinyl reissue of the same one from 1998, right?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 March 2024 21:00 (two months ago) link
As long as it isn't Kim Mitchell.― MarkoP, Friday, March 8, 2024 3:40 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― MarkoP, Friday, March 8, 2024 3:40 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
might as well go for a broken face
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 8 March 2024 21:01 (two months ago) link
Oh, wow, never mind. I see that it is, but with more material. Going to have to check it out then, I was under the impression it was just a straight vinyl reissue.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 March 2024 21:01 (two months ago) link
sounds like it's time for a zwan reunion. paz & billy can patch over their personal issues with whatever weird conspiracy stuff they may be into
― ufo, Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:03 (two months ago) link
I was thinking that, lol
― Hippie Ernie (morrisp), Saturday, 9 March 2024 01:16 (two months ago) link
wait can someone gimme the cliffs on the timeline of the kims, and departures of each?
― Swen, Saturday, 9 March 2024 02:28 (two months ago) link
Zwan gets back together, then Frank Black hires D'arcy and Billy's head explodes
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 9 March 2024 03:24 (two months ago) link
xposts: no, it's all tracks they recorded for 6 complete sessions at the BBC 1988-1991.. 3LP/2CD/digital. The previous release was just a selection.
― StanM, Saturday, 9 March 2024 03:31 (two months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rdLiTQRP0o
I think about this interview a lot, about him painting to clear his mind after a concert, the bit where the interviewer brings up Lynda Barry (which led me down a rabbit hole) and also about him saying he doesn't care if he seems a shadow of his former self, that keeping away from a day job is his top priority. I guess like a lot of older rock musicians he doesn't have the luxury of spending several years writing and recording.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 00:39 (two months ago) link
Always considered the idea that he shouldn't keep Pixies going without Kim Deal laughable
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 10 March 2024 00:55 (two months ago) link
Trompe Le Monde is the best album album Charles / Black etc ever made, Kim wasn't really involved. She did other great stuff.
― kraudive, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:18 (two months ago) link
I read that oral history about the Pixies, which was illuminating. Yeah, Charles was pretty high strung, but Kim seemed like a tremendous pain in the ass. Iirc she was barely involved in either of the last two records. There's something to be said for bands that burn bright but fast. CCR, Smiths, Pixies, VU, even the Beatles, just this compressed productivity with a huge impact.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:35 (two months ago) link
I kinda always thought the reason she did not have any tunes on the later records was more they were not really welcome.
Never really got it myself as I thought the real pixie dust was when both of them sang on a tune. Oh well…
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:45 (two months ago) link
I was quite shocked when I found out how she doesn't actually have have any of her own songs on Doolittle, not even as much singing as I recalled, but what is there is memorable
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 01:56 (two months ago) link
i would like to register my discontent with this line of Kim dismissal itt i have nothing to add except that it’s gross and i hate it that is all
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:05 (two months ago) link
Kim of course has nothing to prove to anyone, but even "Gigantic," that was a co-write based on I think Charles's repetitive bass riff and maybe he had the chorus too, at least the repeating title. She really didn't have much creative input in the Pixies, which no doubt led to some friction, but if the book is much indication I think it was more her unpredictable behavior and unreliability that ticked him off. Like, skipping sound checks, being late to places, vanishing on tour, that sort of thing.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:08 (two months ago) link
That said, I can't imagine the band without her, she rules and is of course a key component of what makes that band so great.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:10 (two months ago) link
Who is dismissing her? Most people thinks she has the most vital longevity of all the band members but she was kind of sidelined from Doolittle onwards.
I finally listened to Frank Black's Oddballs, it's fun and worthwhile but not really up there with the best of his early albums.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:12 (two months ago) link
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 10 March 2024 02:36 (two months ago) link
Some listings say that's a co-written song. Is there any handy listing of all the Pixies songwriting credits? Did Joey write "Levitate Me"?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:27 (two months ago) link
"silver" and "gigantic" are credited to deal/black (though deal is responsible for most of "silver" at the very least), "levitate me" is black/lovering/jean walsh (black's then-girlfriend i think), lenchantin co-wrote a few tracks on head carrier and beneath the eyrie and santiago co-wrote a few on doggerel
― ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:43 (two months ago) link
"Into The White" is all hers?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 10 March 2024 03:56 (two months ago) link
black is the sole writer on that despite deal singing lead
"bam thwok" is the only pixies track that's credited only to deal afaik
― ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 04:51 (two months ago) link