De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

I like this, about the Dilla beat for Stakes is High:

Tip is playing this new beat for Pos from Dilla and based on the history that those two have, anytime Pos gave a head nod to some shit, Q-Tip ended up keeping the beat and try to make something out of it, so he tried to use reverse psychology on this particular one. “Stakes is High” came up on the beat, Pos kind of held back. He was like, “What do you think of this beat?” “Stakes Is High” beat playing and Pos was like, “It’s all right. It’s OK” but then secretly goes off in the corner and calls Dave was like, Yo! This is the fucking beat. This is it right here. I’ve got to figure out how to get it but this is it. Then went from that point on. Pos reaching out to Dilla separately.

q-tip an infamous beat jacker; also bogarded samples from pete rock iirc.

big lol @ "nah this shit is kinda mid" upon hearing the stakes is high beat tho

would've loved a skit called "Tip the Beat Jacker."

(crocker)

yo when i first 3 feet high and rising i was

It's great to hear these again. All my CDs have been in storage for so long, it's been awhile. Remasters sound great so far and I haven't noticed much differences in samples, really. MIght be awhile before I listen to much else lol

"sunshine" is god tier and my nomination for official theme song of the de la soul reissue campaign.

DE LA IS THE CREW THAT YOU MUST HEAR.

"when i'm gone make sure my headstone reads: he did it for us."

goat hiphop group:
de la vs outkast
FITE

yeah SIH is a very strong closing album

MIght be awhile before I listen to much else lol

― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, March 3, 2023 8:09 AM

uhhh... ya my last.fm is about to go completely all de la all day for the next little while.

here's something funny: i considered mosaic thump a huge disappointment at the time. i am the worst kind of snob.

on tour ever since 89 so ya'll're fuckin the same hoes that used to be mine

3 feet 5
is dead 5
buhloone 5
stakes 5
mosaic 4.5
bionix 4.5

Is the Buhloone Mindstate pre-order link unavailable to anyone else? I’m able to add Stake to my cart, but not that

I can now confirm that 3 Feet High and Rising is still good

also, I had it on CD way back when, and I'm not hearing anything unexpected

"you know how i know you ain't phife? you woulda said you owned the knicks or somethin."

https://i.imgur.com/kJQu9xt.png

smh all my homies hate all music dot com

wow Bionix better than Buhloone

big month for art official intelligence!

god the beat for Ooodles of O's rules

it's funny, at the time it seemed like such a turn, but de la soul as dead doesn't sound like nearly as much of a departure from 3 feet high as it did then

It seemed to be more in the marketing: "We don't want people to call us hippies"

yeah definitely, and obviously the cover with the broken flowerpot, the ring ring video being black and white,i think that affected how i perceived it. but stuff like oodles or pease porridge etc could totally be on 3 feet.

Stakes is HIgh seemed like a big departure. DelaisDead really seems similar in vibe to 3feet in vibe. Yeah it's a little darker but it still has the silly skits and sort of jokey songs and such

dilla feature on bionix raises the score from 3.5 to 4.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07-IEONSbaw

sheesh thought all these posts were gonna be about Trugoy but I go the local store and somehow 3 Feet High and Rising is there? what the hell

slamming.

where's the box?

okay, taking a de la meme break to address this—

they say the "f word" a lot (and i don't mean fuck). i had normalized it so much back then —also they are using it mockingly in some instances— that i guess i just didn't think anything of it. to their credit(?) they left them all in there.

also "pease porridge" has several noticeable replacements in the samples. song is essentially the same but i know the og too well so i can hear the differences.

Do they really say that word in anywhere that isn't a skit?

Freddie Foxx does at the end of the first AOI album but I can't think of where else?

They're not ATCQ after all

bumpy knuckles says whatever he wants

okay, it's been 30+ years.

can someone please explain "who do u worship?" to me.

(i've always just assumed that there is no explanation because hi we're de la soul and prince paul.)

(kind of the second album's "delacratic" or "dave has a problem... seriously")

"pass the plugs" also very god tier and maybe the best thing they ever did.

(let me tell about that time i did a presentation on hiphop in junior year english class and i played "pass the plugs" as one of my example songs.)

I always found "who do you worship" confusing too lol

I guess the asshole guy is who many people want to be?

Yeah I got that I just never understood the purpose of the noisy bits, what they represented

They sound like a response to a dare to make a beat out of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway by Genesis!

Only just learned they supposedly sampled Anyway by Genesis... I can't hear it...

just marathon`d everything in my own order; started with buhloone and ended with de la soul is dead and, welp, greatest fucking group of all time.

(also re:"who do u worship?" i always took that to be a portrayal of / fourth wall break look into what was going on in hemorrhoid's life when he wasn't around to bully jeff and his friends. maybe i'm taking the "story" of the album too far though. is this the same jeff from "brain washed follower" and "the mack daddy on the left"?)

epilogue:

this will never not make me laugh:

woman 1: you know who that was?
man: nope.
woman 1: the guy from de la soul. pos. posdnuous.
man: who!?
woman 1: you heard of de la soul, right?
man: right.
woman 2: (in background) YOU KNOW...(unintelligible)
woman 1: well he was the one from de la soul.
man: the one wit the real nappy hair?
woman 1: the one with the... the dark skinned one.
man: wit the glasses??
woman 1: yeeeah!
woman 2: EW THE UGLY ONE!

Wrong Tom’s deep dive into The Magic Number is well worth a read:

Ok children…

De La day is finally upon us, and as if I’d let this moment pass without doing a thread, so strap in as we dissect The Magic Number pic.twitter.com/L9GvVPer3I

— wrongtom (@TheWrongtom) March 3, 2023

haven't listened to bms for at least 15 years until today but gee what a towering achievement and also kinda surprised at how well my not v good memory still recalled all the lyrics and asides

waiting for the piano to kick in on i be blowin made me kinda giddy with joy tbh

https://www.discogs.com/artist/1139036-Jeff-32

de la soul is for the children.