PINK FLOYD

Tone is in the fingers BUTT, maaaaaan

^^Fixed

to the tune of a famous dee-lite song

my controversial opinion is The Final Cut is the best Floyd album full stop.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat

Certainly controversial, I love it

I mean, it's not the best at being a 'best' Floyd album, but it is my favourite.

I was promised full stop! ;)

The full stop's still there it's just more words precede it. :)

I need to sit down

It's jarring when he gets to the top 10 and actually starts to praise songs in that article.

i listened to the pros and cons of hitch hiking for the first time last night and uh yikes. wish i had heard it at the height of my waters fandom, it just sounds awful to me now

so many fucking sound effects

The title track was the last great song Waters wrote, maybe a couple of things on his last record are almost as good.

the title track and "every strangers eyes" were the only two songs i really liked yeah, besides THERE WERE ARABS WITH KNIVES AT THE FOOT OF THE BED

i appreciate the ambitions of that record but sometimes i think roger waters makes records so he can force me to hear the sounds of passing traffic

“not now john” is my vote for worst pink floyd song tho

Mine is "Dogs of War", sorry Anthony Moore.

amused to death is imo much better than pros and cons and i'm genuinely shocked at how similar the production value is to the division bell (from the cover i always assumed this was waters' industrial album)

roger waters makes records so he can force me to hear the sounds of passing traffic

No cars in the 18th century, but the best parts of Ça Ira were the sound effects.

yeah was never that into Moore's contributions to Floyd, despite my thinking that Slapp Happy RULES. And his solo records. I have a feeling Peter Blegved is probably responsible for most of the great Slapp Happy lyrics, but Moore's solo albums are fantastic as well.

sometimes i think roger waters makes records so he can force me to hear the sounds of passing traffic

Tho, my favourite Pink Floyd song has the sound of passing traffic passim (!)

Can I also say I find The Dogs of War far too entertaining, probably for reasons other than intended. David's lumbering One of These Days/Welcome to the Machine piss-up with all his studio friends, panache Fairlight-y powerbolts turning into a dodo-dead slow-mo Quo boogie. Raises a smile from me anyway.

if anybody read my post about being repulsed by pros and cons of hitch hiking and assumed i’d be totally obsessed with the album within days, you were right

classic brad

Dogs of War as written and recorded by Alannah Myles

^ As if that wouldn’t rule.

gave the Final Cut a listen for the first time in a few years yesterday; I've always liked it more than most people do and I still kind of liked it, but I really hate how they've wedged When the Tigers Broke Free in there (that is a terrible song) and I really got tired of Waters' crazy-man laughs in the background this time.

also Not Now John musically is not that terrible though it's basically just Young Lust again. But the lyrics are beyond awful. WTF is this:

Hold on John, I think there's something good on
I used to read books but (but fucking what????)
Could be the news or some other abuse
Could be reusable shows (huh?)

Tho, my favourite Pink Floyd song has the sound of passing traffic passim (!)

― you can see me from westbury white horse

"crumbling land" is my favorite pink floyd song too

my latest floyd jaunt has taken me to the depths of jam-band hell and a band called "Dead Floyd". that's right, they play grateful dead songs _and_ pink floyd songs! ever wanted to hear what "dogs" would sound like if it were sung by bobby ace and sounded kind of sort of like "eyes of the world" but not really? yeah, me either. but! then in the middle they play "the other one" as if it were "sheep", complete with synth solo. and it sort of almost works? here, check it.

https://archive.org/details/dfloyd2018-06-16.flac.16

i'm starting to get really interested in jam-band dregs. like there's got to be some stuff that, even if it's not _good_, is at least fucked up to be interesting. you could do a really good "jam band hell" compilation... only problem is the amount of mediocrity you'd have to _listen_ to...

the final cut wikipedia entry has some interesting things in it

Tensions soon emerged, and while Waters and Gilmour initially worked together, playing the video game Donkey Kong (1981) in their spare time, they eventually chose to work separately. Engineer Andy Jackson worked with Waters on vocals; Guthrie with Gilmour on guitars. They would occasionally meet to discuss the work that had been completed; while this method was not in itself unusual, Gilmour began to feel strained, sometimes barely maintaining his composure. Kamen too felt pressured; Waters had never been a confident vocalist and, on one occasion, after repeated studio takes, Waters noticed him writing on a notepad. Losing his temper, he demanded to know what Kamen was doing, only to find that Kamen had been writing, "I Must Not Fuck Sheep" repeatedly.[2][18]

i love pros and cons of hitchhiking and radio k.a.o.s., solely based on the premise that they're supposed to be high concept / "annoying"(?) albums. going back to the "dated" discussion; those albums sound very dated by now but that's a case where i think it helps me enjoy them even more. they are also able to establish and envelope the listener in their own universe pretty quickly and convincingly. standard stuff for pf/rw, but i feel more connected to the worlds in those albums. granted, i'm not going to be like "THEY'RE CLASSICS!" but i've listened to (and really enjoyed) them a lot more than the wall or the final cut in my life. maybe i just like bad music?

amused to death is okay while it's on, but it's too long. i often forget it exists. i haven't listened to it since it was recent, but i remember thinking is this the life we really want? was at least his second best solo album and that the last 10 or 15 minutes of the record was probably his best run of songs since the wall.

it is, but I also haven't returned to it much after the month it was released. it came out and I thought "this is great!" and then never really wanted to to revisit it.

I used to own Pros and Cons — I think I listened to it once in high school, but it sounded like a really bad, boring radio play (maybe Waters should have collaborated with Joe Frank!) and I can't remember what any of the songs sounded like — but I had actually forgotten Radio K.A.O.S. (ugh, that title) and Amused to Death existed at all.

i appreciate that is this the life we really want? is not afraid to sound like classic floyd. “picture that” being a “sheep” rip-off felt downright refreshing

Waters and Gilmour initially worked together, playing the video game Donkey Kong (1981) in their spare time

Now I desperately want to know how the album would have turned out if, instead, they'd been playing Galaga or, for that matter, Space Invaders.

"See Mario Play"

"Wish You Were Tron"

"Ms. Pac-Man at the Gates of Dawn"

"Atom Heart Frogger"

"Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pong"

Hedgehogs (Three Different Ones)

I passingly looked at some listicles of all Floyd songs ranked last night and Two Suns in the Sunset was at the back end of all of them. Boo to this :-(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9SKH5rF_c0

gotta say rick wright's '90s solo effort broken china is kinda dope!!! pino on bass! sinéad o'connor sings lead on two songs including this one!

i appreciate that is this the life we really want? is not afraid to sound like classic floyd. “picture that” being a “sheep” rip-off felt downright refreshing

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, March 5, 2023 9:26 AM

this makes me want to start a new thread— when artists plagiarize themselves: victimless crime or no?

this makes me want to start a new thread— when artists plagiarize themselves: victimless crime or no?

― .austinuos, plug forth. (Austin)

saul zaentz to thread

I'm still not recovered from the claim made in this thread that The Final Cut is the best Pink Floyd album. will definitely come up in therapy this week.

https://www.slashfilm.com/img/gallery/the-14-best-tony-soprano-moments-on-the-sopranos/l-intro-1660678021.jpg

when artists plagiarize themselves

Isn't that basically the John Fogerty story?

this is going to make no sense but: if the wall is the soundtrack to being grounded, the Final Cut is the soundtrack to reform school

gotta say rick wright's '90s solo effort broken china is kinda dope!!!

An acquaintance is in a Floyd tribute group and plays one of the songs from Broken China, I guess for the real fans.

I had a dream about Pink Floyd last night.

I was invited(?) to join Roger Waters, Rick Wright and Nick Mason (no Gilmour) in rehearsing some Syd Barrett tunes. For some reason the rehearsals were being held in my mother's bedroom in Paisley.

Waters had brought tapes and videos of two Syd songs he wanted to play - neither of which had ever existed outside of this dream - and had a list of some other songs he wanted to work on, none of which I recognized but I remember thinking included some Bob Dylan songs. Waters promptly disappeared downstairs leaving me to try to work out the songs on my own. Mason started setting up his drumkit and Wright, who didn't appear to have brought any equipment, stood at the window with his hands his pockets looking out at the car park outside my mother's house.

The verse of the first song had a D shape which slid up to an E - though I was unsure if the E was major and minor. The chorus went from A to G with maybe an E minor thrown in. There was also a one string descending part that I was having trouble working out. I said to Mason, "Where's Roger?", because he'd been away a long time, and he replied, "Oh he'll be back". At this stage I should point out Waters had a beard but looked very like he looks now, Mason was kind of 90s Nick Mason, Wright was pure 70s.

Mason had started taking about the King's Tower in the British Library and how he had been allowed in it in the 60s - which is impossible as it wasn't built till 1997. I remember wondering if he'd ever played drums inside it when he said that more recently he'd been recorded playing drums there for "that soundtrack". By this time, Waters was back and was sprawled on an armchair: shirt open, hairy chest. "You couldn't play there now", he said to Mason. "Why not", said Mason. "Because trade unions have objected to the tower", said Waters.

I was concentrating on learning the song when I became aware Waters and Wright were having a heated argument about something or other, standing up and shouting at each other. Next thing Waters has grabbed Wright by his jacket - Wright was wearing a kind of yellow satin tour jacket - and ripped it right across the chest. He then made some kind of sarcastic comment like, "Now it's about ripped tour jackets". We then all, as one it seemed, turned round to see that Mason had vanished and taken his drumkit with him....

... and that's as much as I remember.

Sounds pretty plausible to me. Pink Floyd: The Lost British Library Tapes

Tom D i regret to inform… you were Gilmour

It does look that way.

The more I think about it the more the dream seems to be a reflection of the final years of the Waters era Floyd. Waters has presented the band with a lot of material he wants to work on. Gilmour (that's me, folks) sits down and diligently works on the music and tries to ignore or simply fails to notice what is going on around him. Wright is pretty much completely detached, he even fails to bring his equipment (i.e. his talent and ideas) to the proceedings, so much so that Waters eventually forces him out. Mason is around but footling around, almost delaying actually playing the drums, and kind of living on past memories/glories until he absents himself before he too comes under fire from Waters.

... also Waters is kind of strutting around being very alpha male - the open shirt, the hairy chest.

... why it all happens in my mother's bedroom though I don't know and not sure I want to know