The soundtrack version of "Pretty in Pink" was, like most of the other tracks on that album, lamentable.― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
Say what? That soundtrack is the platonic ideal of the form.
― enochroot, Thursday, 23 February 2023 03:18 (one year ago) link
Half of it (Smiths, Echo, Vega) was solid. But in addition to the aforementioned bowdlerized version of the title track, I felt sick when I heard "Shellshock."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link
I didn't because I had never heard "Shellshock" before in my life. I loved that soundtrack wholeheartedly.
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link
What about "Shellshock" makes you sick unless you mean 'Oh my god I'm lovesick!"?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link
It was such a departure from their previous work, and so lightweight and mainstream sounding that I thought it was some kind of joke. One of my friends described it as their "We hate you, Jellybean" track. I remember thinking at the time that it didn't pay to have heroes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:20 (one year ago) link
I dunno, it fits without a slip into Miami freestyle.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link
I wasn't ready for New Order to do Miami freestyle. They were Mancunian gloom masters.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link
But in the two years before "Shellshock" came "Love Vigilantes," "Sub-culture," "Confusion...."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link
All I can say is, it sounded like a very unwelcome departure to my ears. I blame John Robie, who also managed to fuck up "Sub-culture."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
and...you haven't changed your mind? What did you think of New Order after 1986?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link
Well, after the soundtrack came Brotherhood, which was to me a welcome return to form. I do like the later albums, but not as fiercely as the older ones. I dunno, it probably has to do with my age--I was 19 the first time I saw them live, on the Low-Life tour, and that was the high water mark for me.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:39 (one year ago) link
for me I think the latest one in this category is the Dead's "Skull And Roses" a.k.a. S/T 2LP a.k.a. "Skullfuck", I knew it had the best "Wharf Rat" but the rest is great too
and U-Roy's Dread In A Babylon, holy shit
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link
Yes, that U-Roy album is so good.
― Unfairport Convention (PBKR), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
xp Re: "Skull and Roses": I remember putting my dad's copy of that album on back in the mid 70s and being baffled by what I perceived as a mismatch between the cover art and the music.
It still holds up, for sure.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
many a young person over the decades was let down by what must surely be the incredibly vicious punk/metal death rock group the grateful dead
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
LOL
I was expecting something spooky, at least. A bait and switch almost on the level of Sea Monkeys.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link
Skull & Roses is the album that finally got me into the Dead (after several false starts).
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
(It's probably still my favorite, TBH)
The band photo on the inside is classic. Immensely powerful "filthy hippies" vibes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link
As I'm sure I've said elsewhere, Hawkwind is what I thought the Grateful Dead would sound like, and the Grateful Dead is what I thought Hawkwind would sound like.
― bendy, Thursday, 23 February 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
I think I had back burnered Skull & Roses for years cos '71 is the Dead when they're not being extremely improvisatory for the most part. Not like their peak for me like August 68 or May 70. Then I picked up an extended copy cheaply when a new record shop opened last year or the year before and I got to hear it actually was pretty good.Maybe the most rocky the band got. I've heard it referred to as them bein the ideal bar band at the time.Think I do still prefer them in free fall improvisatory mode overall. But they do still do an 18 minute The Other One I guess.
― Stevo, Friday, 24 February 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link
― bendy, Thursday, February 23, 2023 12:30 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
totally
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
i mean i didn't but i wasn't knowledgeable enough to know that a band like hawkwind could exist
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link
I had mentally filed away "Watershed" as the beginning of Opeth's turn into proggy territory and my gradual loss of interest in following them, but I somewhat randomly decided to listen to it again today and was blown away by how much I like it now.
― o. nate, Friday, 24 February 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link
has taken me perhaps a couple of years to realise eno's Tiger Mountain is full of tunes i enjoy every time they shuffle to the top of the playlist. i must check out the others of that vintage.
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 08:38 (one year ago) link
The other material from the era differs quite heavily, The other solo rock lp is Here Come The Warm Jets which might be seen to be even more protopunk and features several different line ups of backing musicians. Has some good stuff on.If you can get hold of his live stuff with The Winkies it is also somewhat protopunk. They were more fo a blues band so not quite so avant garage. Somebody turned up with a copy of teh Derbyu tape that was supposed to be better than the previously circulated one on Dimeadozen recently but its still distant and whatever which is a shame cos it does sound like the gig as pretty good.
Otherwise there are 2 collaboration lps with Robert Fripp which are both good and there has been an officially released live set too. Atmospheric textured instrumental stuff. I thought I was hearing echoes of Evening Star in early Sonic Youth among other influences. Very worth hearing anyway.
There are also a pair of studio lps collaborating with Cluster that are pretty interesting. They are a little bit later though.
PLus this mid 70s period was also when he started developing the idea of ambient music, apparently triggered by him lying ill and not having the strength to get up and change the record when a copy of Miles Davis tribute to Duke Ellintgon "He Loved Him Madly" was playing on the other side of the room a bit too quietly. I thought that was teh story I heard but may be him recoveirng from a car accident and the record one of 18th century harp music which was drowned out by the sound of rain. Anyway it lead to him investigating music best heard in teh background and putting out lps starting with Another Green World and leading through an entire ambient series of music for locations.
Before And After Science is song based and a few years later than the great just post Roxy Stuff, first 2 Roxy are pretty essential if you don't already have them. I think I somehow haven't picked up a copy of Before and After Science which I may need to remedy.
― Stevo, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 09:08 (one year ago) link
oh yeah, I knew I had enjoyed the Bauhaus version of Third Uncle when I was first coming across solo Eno. But that might be a bit misleading as a signpost os I think his music has a different shape and feeL.Obviously different perspective on relevance of that cover if one wasn't encountering it as it was current I guess. Not sure how well remembered taht early Eno stuff was at teh time and I was just about to be a teen when it came out and probably experienced it most as part of the singles mini lp.
― Stevo, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:17 (one year ago) link
yeah, i knew the ambient stuff but not really this vocal stuff (apart from the bauhaus cover)
and i know and like the harmonia stuff but hadn't bothered with the cluster collab
it's just, y'know, getting around to it.
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:36 (one year ago) link
The other solo rock lp is Here Come The Warm Jets which might be seen to be even more protopunk and features several different line ups of backing musicians. Has some good stuff on.
Something of an understatement.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 11:07 (one year ago) link
a great Eno song from about Tiger Mountain is his track Big Day on Phil Manzanera's solo album, later covered by Feelies side project Yung Wu (which is where I first heard it, a pretty great album too!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03-EJBnzW1A
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link
always blows my mind that Tiger Mountain is from '74 and not like, '77
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 16:08 (one year ago) link
looking for the others and, at the risk of sounding like tracer hand, i'm not sure where to buy cds from anymore (that isn't amazon). not vaguely mainstream back-catalogue cds. boomkat doesn't have it, bandcamp doesn't have it, hmv.com isn't loading...
(whsmiths online do, and i can get it delivered to a branch which saves me some postage, am now looking for other things from my list to make it slightly more worthwhile)
― koogs, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
In the UK, maybe Action Records? Looks like they've got plenty of Eno.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link
I'm into discovering 60s boomer records, like I really like the first Procul Harum album, as boring as Whiter Shade of Pale seems, it works in the context of the album.
― Fuck You Know About a Tralee (I M Losted), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link
I would like one late pass to De La Soul Is Dead, please
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link
The last "Classic" album I was etc, was probably "Blood on the Tracks". A few years ago, when the "test pressing" came out, but
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:28 (one year ago) link
mccoy tyner, “expansions”
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
(a whole host of classic jazz records really.)
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link
all those Tyner records are great including the ones on Milestone
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
xps Rarewaves are also decent in the UK. They have TTMBS for £5.64: https://www.rarewaves.com/products/5099968453626-taking-tiger-mountain-by-strategy
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link
Expansions is really great. I got it and listened to it a bunch before realizing how good it is. Second side especially.
― and my soul would smack me if I didn’t listen (PBKR), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
wowwww
https://i.discogs.com/h0rFNKCrAlVdWI_I_kr8KW0L4dkNYUfACLGisvtvezw/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:594/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE3ODEz/MC0xNTYwNzI1OTkw/LTQ4NDQuanBlZw.jpeg
https://www.discogs.com/release/178130-Roger-The-Many-Facets-Of-Roger
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 4 March 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link
― Fuck You Know About a Tralee (I M Losted)
it's not on the album!
i guess probably _in the dark_ by toots and the maytals is my most recent.
― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 4 March 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
It's on the US version, not the UK.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 4 March 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link
_in the dark_ by toots and the maytals
yeah I finally heard this in its original form a few years back, so good
― obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 4 March 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
well i got the maria toledo album. it's so good. nothing unexpected or surprising, just very beautiful music. i put it on youtube since it's not on spotify.― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:12 PM
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, July 17, 2021 2:12 PM
my yt upload of this earned me a copyright strike, but the assholes finally got their shit together and it's on spotify now. highly recommended.
― my beard exists more than i do. (Austin), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link
not an album but spotify's This is the Gap Band playlist has really been doing it for me recently as the weather turns warmer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link
Charlie Christian The Daddy of Them All.great cheap 2cd of work by jazz guitar pioneer with various bands.I might like thsi even more if there was room for him to stretch out instead of it all being 2 1/2 or 3 minute tracks. What is here is pretty atmospheric, melodic, groove bound but would be good to hear him truly jam. I assume this is partially down to recording ability at the time. He's surrounded by other instruments including a vibraphone or whatever specific variation taht is. Also looking forward to hearing this play clearly throughout.
Youssou N'dour Egyptpossibly even better discovery since this was a Euro from a charity shop and I had to go back to get it. Stupid should have grabbed it immediately since i love his earlier work with Etoile De Dakar.Here he is trying to tell his audience about his relationship with his brand of islam.Beautiful set with very rhythmic usage of strings. & his voice being great as per usual.
― Stevo, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 17:47 (one year ago) link
Re: eno according to his discreet music sleeve notes it was an album of 18th c. harp music that was playing too quietly, not miles, although I am pretty sure he called “he loved him madly” “proto-ambient” or something
― brimstead, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 18:02 (one year ago) link
When I was a kid, I went from 3 Feet High and Rising as a 5th-grade kid to Buhloone Mindstate as a stoned teenager. Totally missed De La Soul is Dead and I've been remedying that problem. I think it's my favorite.
― peace, man, Friday, 12 May 2023 15:57 (one year ago) link