ILM's 2022 End of Year Tracks & Albums Poll / VOTING THREAD

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Same as table, I want to sit with albums for awhile but also like the idea of including a couple new discoveries. I did a mixed ballot and included some of those as 'honorable mentions'.

I posted this on the dedicated thread but I randomly thought of that Sam Prekop & John McEntire album, surprised no one nominated that as I thought it would was a minor ILM hit.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

n/m I see it now, don't know why ctrl+F didn't find it for me before

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

There should be fewer nominations

saer, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link

And more votes (for tracks at least)

groovypanda, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

as a shape expert

I was conflicted about this record, the vocal/lyric didn't sit quite right with me. It felt close to being done a lot better

saer, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link

And more votes (for tracks at least)

two ballots each - one for just your nominations, the other for everyone else's

nashwan, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

lol that would be a great alternate universe poll

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

re: Saer, I always nominate ~10 tracks that I know have 0 chance of ranking but that (in my head) may reach a couple new people via this process/perusal of the nominations. Often I don't even end up having room for them on my final ballot because there are more noms than votes, but I still feel like it's worth it. Maybe that's bad form?

Indexed, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

Gahhh I'm away on holiday for the roll-out. Hopefully I can check in all the same

Lol I could perhaps maybe possibly start albums rollout today… but then you’d have to wait for the tracks rollout for another two weeks when forks publishes it. If you’re fine with it I can roll them… a bit hasty but doable.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:57 (one year ago) link

re: Saer, I always nominate ~10 tracks that I know have 0 chance of ranking but that (in my head) may reach a couple new people via this process/perusal of the nominations. Often I don't even end up having room for them on my final ballot because there are more noms than votes, but I still feel like it's worth it. Maybe that's bad form?

same here. I like to get as much of the things I like on the record. bad form? no way! a service to ilmkind, if anything.

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

as *many…

the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Monday, 23 January 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

Moka, it's fine, really. We were given warning that it'd start later, so let's keep to that schedule. Plus I think it'd lose a bit of steam with a big gap between the two rollouts.

emil.y, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

Glad you said that because I'm excited to share results too but one week does give all of us time to recalibrate behind scenes properly. Also I tend to fuck up names and numbers a lot more when I'm hasty about it lol - this is not a guarantee I wont do it this time btw.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

take your time moka.

Let's continue to use this thread for recommendations though! "Making the poll" is (or should be) notably less crucial than having this specific thread to share good music to actively curious listeners.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 January 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

yeah, I'm cool with waiting.

Becoming a tradition that these threads only become visible to me after the vote submission due date

Evan, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:59 (one year ago) link

man i totally missed that there was a new Battle Trance album this year. listening now and it's sick. would've voted for it.

na (NA), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link

(might be of interest to the Horse Lords fans, though it's all sax - no drums/guitars/bass)

na (NA), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:11 (one year ago) link

somewhere in between Horse Lords and Colin Stetson i guess

na (NA), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link

really enjoying this Helena Hauff EP that was released this year that I somehow missed when it was released and also missed in the nominations, it would have been on my ballot for sure.

silverfish, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link

I feel like I am this boards primary Battle Trance /LaPlante nerd and I couldn’t parse the new album. I need to try again.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 January 2023 19:23 (one year ago) link

Saer has a point when he calls for fewer nominations. Forty of your own is a lot when you're voting for fifty and the goal is to build a common list. It could be a little artificial if your ballot can be max 50-60% of your own nominates though.
I'd like to add "More conversation !" to his suggestion. One cool thing that we had in 2022 was the midyear thread, for a bit of shameless preview and sharing. Or people sharing their top in their specialty genre at the end of the year. Otherwise maybe the conversations tend to be a bit siloed, or long lists of YT links, and our limited attention spans keep being our worst enemy.

Nabozo, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 08:20 (one year ago) link

don't have much to say and just wish i managed to be active here more of the year (maybe this time!), but...

maybe a rolling 2023 creme de la creme thread?

lol i dunno

mostly think it's working fine.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link

that would be a very contentious thread

imago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

there will be conversations about the 77 i am sure

imago, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link

yes it'd be silly and largely besides the point until year end nonsense time

maybe if we add avatars we could attract more zoomers

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link

Do we still do a "Summer Jams" thread? That always worked nicely as a mid-year tracks touchpoint

We do, but it's been basically DOA the last few years imo.

Last year we had this thread: 2022 AOTY So Far. And for a few years prior we had a "rolling favorite tracks & albums YEAR" thread.

rob, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:13 (one year ago) link

I discovered one of my noms via the Summer Jams thread. We also have rolling genre threads, and obv. threads for artists/albums that folks are especially passionate about. This is how I discover music throughout the year; no way could/would I "cram" via the massive nomination list.

I try to listen to every track that places on the EOY poll, and it's very rare there's one that makes me think – "I would have voted for this if I had known about it..." So I guess the system works for me.

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:06 (one year ago) link

don't have much to say and just wish i managed to be active here more of the year (maybe this time!), but...

maybe a rolling 2023 creme de la creme thread?

lol i dunno

mostly think it's working fine.

― maf you one two (maffew12)

So… I was thinking: I really enjoyed listening to songs others ilxors queued on turntable/plug/outloud but it was live so you had to be there to queue songs and there was no easy way to archive and listen later. Would there be interest in a “ilm listening club” in the form of a private, collaborative spotify playlist? Only rules would be to not delete other people’s songs and only post one track before another ilxor adds another, so if there’s at least two people sharing back and forth the playlist keeps rolling…

There could even be two playlists: one exclusively of 2023 recommendations and another without year constrictions…

Idk I’ve discovered some amazing tracks via this year’s noms playlist and get lost in the individual rolling threads so if several ilxors are interested in participating it could turn out into something great.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:16 (one year ago) link

Come up with some guidelines to ensure one person doesn't add 1000 similar songs, and I'd absolutely be interested/participate

Indexed, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

I like the "only post one track before another ilxor adds another" but feels like something like one track per poster per week/day would be helpful to keep it manageable. If it gets really big, it'll cease to be useful.

Indexed, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

Yeah I mean I was saying wait your turn for at least one person to post assuming there’s not much participation so the playlist doesn’t die a boring death but if there’s idk at least 8 people sharing tracks then yeah, oversharing could be a problem… the rule should then be maybe limit yourself to one song per week or something so the rest and the more inactive members have time to do a “weekly catch-up”…

It also helps having these sort of restrictions to pick carefully what you want to queue… quality over quantity

Idk just an idea and it should be more polished but if there’s enough interest we can all chime in on how to make it work.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

There were rolling collaborative 'anything goes' playlists back in the day and tho prone to chaos they mostly worked well. Collab. playlists on Spotify now seem to be invite-only so it should be easy enough to manage and worth a go.

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

would participate! good idea. ultimately I'm not looking to change any board stuff around for shameless last minute crammers like me

hope to poke my head into the usual Rolling threads more this year

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

I like the idea of a current year listening club starting after the polls with a thread where people comment on latest additions (offhand or Tim F style). I would aim for 3-7 songs per week, either on first-come first-served basis, or people mention when they have a song they want to post and Moka adds it.

I wouldn't do all-time anything goes, but it could be very interesting for a specific era / location / broad genre. Say, pre-1950s music, or a travelogue through lesser-known countries / subcultures.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 08:01 (one year ago) link

They've not crossed my path before, but really enjoying the De Lux album so thanks to whoever nominated that. Scratching that itch I didn't know I had for more 80s influenced synth-pop a la Cut Copy

groovypanda, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 08:30 (one year ago) link

Was me. De Lux have put a bunch of good tracks out over the years and the singer's quite a Byrne-soundalike at times.

nashwan, Wednesday, 25 January 2023 10:01 (one year ago) link

Sooo impatient.

emil.y, Thursday, 26 January 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link

hey emil.y, huge congrats on slum of legs making christgau's year end list!!! coupla years late but...

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link

almost fell off my chair when i saw that :)))

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

Haha yes, we just saw that ourselves. Honestly I feel like if it keeps getting reviews over the years that's no bad thing: screw release-date push, just review us whenever. Half of the band didn't know who Christgau was, while I was like w(°o°)w !

emil.y, Thursday, 26 January 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

Pretty high up in his list too, so cool

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

Maybe in ten years there'll be enough interest to finance a luxurious reunion tour (we'd all be hella old so got to have hotels and maybe a foot-spa on the rider).

emil.y, Thursday, 26 January 2023 14:33 (one year ago) link

I like the idea of a current year listening club starting after the polls with a thread where people comment on latest additions (offhand or Tim F style). I would aim for 3-7 songs per week, either on first-come first-served basis, or people mention when they have a song they want to post and Moka adds it.

― Nabozo, Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:01 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Cosigned. Start it, Moka!

Indexed, Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:10 (one year ago) link

Look forward to that even if i don't totally grasp how it's much different from youtube embeds on a Rolling page

Mostly it'll be nice because it will work on my phone.... i see now in the Flagging app thread that it's not just me who can't see YouTube embeds on that. Will have to try using browser more.

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 26 January 2023 16:40 (one year ago) link

ILM 2023 Listening Club

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 January 2023 17:02 (one year ago) link

I feel so bad about not voting for Asake's album "Mr Money With the Vibe" that I'm going to tell my friends to start calling me by its name. In its honour.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 27 January 2023 03:28 (one year ago) link

I saw that Slum Legs listing, super cool. Christgau's list overall I liked just for its Christgau-ness, he has no compunction about sticking by his old faves — Buck 65, Todd Snider and Tommy Womack all in the top 20. But also still an open ear to catch things here and there.


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