yeah, probably not his best album. in fact, upon revisting, i am currently thinking of everything else he's ever done with a much better opinion than frestonia. it's very mor. no thank you.
― Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 16 December 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
but i recommend everything else he's ever done in varying degrees of essential-ness.
― Oh, Stevie, you are my number one gypsy goddess. (Austin), Friday, 16 December 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
wow this thread has blown up in the last couple but after soto's refresh i rechecked Love it's still nope, but also based on recs here i listened to Surf 4 times and it is indeed greeeeeaaaaat.
― normal AI yankovic (Hunt3r), Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link
ever since hearing 'Birth of the True' at the end of his follow up, I've longed for an entirely acoustic album - one guitar, one voice, no harmonies. And here it finally is: 'Surf'; and it's quite beautiful
Ugh god same can't believe I've been sleeping on this record for 20 years thank you Alfred for the revive and everyone else involved in this beautiful old timey internet forum, what a gift
― Florin Cuchares, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
jammin' the north star this afternoon for the first time in a long while. big sigh. so good. absolutely nothing even resembling a surprise happens.
and yet.
ps- is faux boy band north star-era roddy your favorite? https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000087094007-tmec67-t500x500.jpgbecause it's mine.
― judging the world through jaundiced eyes (Austin), Sunday, 25 December 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link
Dave Mustaine, recently:
... there’s a guy named Roddy Frame who is the singer for a band called Aztec Camera, and most metal people would call me a pussy if they heard Aztec Camera, but it’s a great band with beautiful songwriting. That’s where I turn to when I want to learn something. I’ll go to people who are exceptional in their field. And Roddy Frame writes for a lot of people. When somebody has unlocked the secret of songwriting, for me, I want to maybe not pick their brain, but at least observe.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:31 (eleven months ago) link
and then there's me who actively got called a pussy for liking aztec camera.
but yeah, spot on dave. roddy's clearly great, sure. lol @ "exceptional in their field." ya think ol'davo thinks of himself accordingly?
― the adventures of Yari and ixa. (Austin), Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:15 (eleven months ago) link
lol
I'm not a pussy ok! I'm just observing exceptional people in their field! I'll kick your ass! MEGADETH
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 1 October 2023 23:24 (eleven months ago) link
was looking for youtube covers to help me figure out how to play some of the tunes from Surf, found the video below which is not exactly helpful because it's all arranged for piano but is great none the less, pandemic-era living room set of Roddy songs, very interesting to hear on a piano
I guess in the end I have to agree with Dave Mustaine, I don't know that Dave has unlocked the secret of songwriting but if anyone has it's probably Roddy Frame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0MuJIKBTGQ
― Florin Cuchares, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 06:45 (eleven months ago) link
Some things bear repeating: how does a 17yr old write a song like 'We Could Send Letters'?
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 February 2024 19:40 (seven months ago) link
dreamland thoughts...
suspend disbelief, close your eyes, and press play on "vertigo" with the thought that it's roddy, sakamoto, jam+lewis.
i mean... "vertigo" up to classic camera status for me anyway. it's roddy doing city pop!
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:01 (five months ago) link
OMG Roddy Frame turned 60 this year, how is that even possible?
― Hunky Tory (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:27 (five months ago) link
that's clark kent for you, man. idk how he does it either. (winkwink)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:29 (five months ago) link
so my daughter, for some reason, has become really into Aztec Camera...trying to think of other bands/artists in that vein to recommend - maybe Orange Juice?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2024 17:20 (two months ago) link
Prefab Sprout
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 11 July 2024 17:40 (two months ago) link
especially Steve McQueen aka Two Wheels Good
― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Thursday, 11 July 2024 17:41 (two months ago) link
trash can sinatras second album
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:13 (two months ago) link
yep I second Steve McQueen
xp it’s called “I’ve seen everything”
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:15 (two months ago) link
awesome thanks!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 July 2024 18:33 (two months ago) link
Crowded house, temple of low menLloyd Cole, rattlesnakes
Robyn Hitchcock, woodentops, go-betweens, and c86 bands
Trash can Sinatras is a great shout but maybe not aor enough... the singer's sister's first record with fairground attraction might be closer to the young idealistic yuppie vibe i get from aztec camera
I feel like orange juice are a bit weird compared to aztec camera.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Thursday, 11 July 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link
The Pale Fountains
― fetter, Thursday, 11 July 2024 20:10 (two months ago) link
The Woodentops
― Mark G, Thursday, 11 July 2024 22:53 (two months ago) link
so my daughter, for some reason, has become really into Aztec Camera...
oh come on, we all know the reason: aztec camera fucking smashes!
maybe some of that early sophistipop stuff for riyl? style council, ebtg, etc. kinda feel like anything else more immediately adjacent has already been mentioned.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Friday, 12 July 2024 05:43 (two months ago) link
maybe she’d like men at work?
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 12 July 2024 11:55 (two months ago) link
The Bluebells? Scritti Politti?
― ailsa, Friday, 12 July 2024 13:45 (two months ago) link
Martin Stephenson & The Daintees
The Bible/Boo Hewardine solo
Kevin McDermott Orchestra
Perhaps some of the Scottish bands that were around at roughly the same time, The Big Dish, His Latest Flame, Del Amitri, The Silencers, Deacon Blue (their first record particularly), Love & Money
― Maresn3st, Friday, 12 July 2024 14:18 (two months ago) link
... Danny Wilson, there were dozens of them.
― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Friday, 12 July 2024 14:37 (two months ago) link
If looking for something more recent in the tuneful Scottish singer-songwriter vein, can recommend both Hamish Hawk and Withered Hand
― ailsa, Friday, 12 July 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link
And Ballboy.
― ailsa, Friday, 12 July 2024 15:01 (two months ago) link
really appreciate the thoughtful suggestions, been listening to a few - Steve McQueen is a great one should have thought of that
very interesting to me as a yank w/no knowledge of Del Amitri besides that soggy "Roll to Me" song that was an alt rock hit here in the 90s, the first DA album is really great!
Trashcan Sinatras is another name I've seen for years and this second album is indeed amazing
Pale Fountains I'd never even heard of but are great, looks like two went on to Shack another band I've never heard
cheers everyone
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 July 2024 19:31 (two months ago) link
If you go for Shack, do check the Magical World of the Strands, which is the Head brothers again. Thread just reminded me of it so put it on for the first time in 15 or so years & still sounds gorgeous.
AC question: Are there any releases of mattress of wire & just like gold outside the original singles? Don't see them on streaming.
― woof, Thursday, 18 July 2024 11:15 (two months ago) link
Don't sleep on Trashcan Sinatras' Cake, my favorite of theirs. I also like a lot of Weightlifting, but that gets a bit further from the sound of AC.
― Indexed, Thursday, 18 July 2024 14:29 (two months ago) link
Haircut 100 is Aztec adjacent I think and may be a good listen.
Seems like there must be American 80s bands that would fit, but I'm not coming up with anything.
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 18 July 2024 15:49 (two months ago) link
The postcard singles never made it to any cd issue or compilation, a real shame.
Was looking through my 80s jangle pop playlist and a few that might suit, with enough tasty chords and properly thrilling bridges or big chorus buildups:
Marshall crenshawClose lobstersLong rydersBilly bragg's workers playtimeMax eider, best kisser in the worldNot sure which nick lowe record would appeal most to an aztec camerade, maybe impossible bird
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Thursday, 18 July 2024 18:29 (two months ago) link
Early Byrds (the Gene Clark years)? Maybe The Left Banke, if you can find their collection There's Gonna Be Storm Haven't heard a lot of the Beau Brummels, but vocals esp v nice, Moby Grape in the right mood, ditto Small Faces, Humble Pie, Ronnie Lane's albums (he's the Face etc. I'm mostly thinking of AzCam-vibewise). Incl. the one q Pete Townsend, for that matter some of PT's early solo stuff (and Who, on occasion)
later on: The Records, 20/20, Big Star, esp early and mellower live tracks. More cherrypicking: some by The Individuals (esp. "Walk By Your House," studio version, but live is good too) maybe The dB's and related solo-duo etc., The Bongos?
― dow, Thursday, 18 July 2024 20:13 (two months ago) link
Oh seems like after High Land Hard Rain Came out, Frame mentioned early Jackson Browne as a favorite.
― dow, Thursday, 18 July 2024 20:19 (two months ago) link
some good roots+influences there―love left banke!
also good point re:original singles. def seek them out, easily located on youtube. firm agree: big shame that's the only way to hear them these days. i've said this elsewhere, even tho summa those are definitive versions, i have to admire roddy's decision to leave them in the past. think about it like this- not sure if i'd want such stuff recorded when i was 16 to just be 'out there'
also for stuff contempo to aztec camera, what about friends again? they're fun!
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Thursday, 18 July 2024 20:38 (two months ago) link
never heard aztec camera, have always been curious
all i can say is this revive has made me SO confused about what they might sound like, lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 18 July 2024 21:17 (two months ago) link
Loved it when Roddy moussed his hair, squeezed into a leather jacket, and played the vulgar riffs he once eschewed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w1Q8ZkXZ1Q
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 July 2024 21:19 (two months ago) link
From the big banging era, Good Morning Britain still always breaks my heart, optimism in the shithole kingdom
― woof, Thursday, 18 July 2024 22:49 (two months ago) link
D'oh! AzCam appeal in ancient kingdom-wise, how could I have missed opp for obvious mention of Beatlese: "In My Life," "The Two of Us," "Blackbird," "Julia," "Every Little Thing," even "Dear Prudence," George's folk-rock guitar, no doubt other.
― dow, Friday, 19 July 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link
lol yeah anybody ever heard of the Beatles?
― brimstead, Friday, 19 July 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link
they were on Postcard Records iirc
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 July 2024 18:22 (two months ago) link
John Lennon tried to tell Edwyn Collins what to do (fing geezer)
― dow, Friday, 19 July 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link
At the record store where JL had "seniority"
― dow, Friday, 19 July 2024 19:05 (two months ago) link
Where Roddy was a juvenile lurker "I bet even that kid could sing as well as you, Collins!"
― dow, Friday, 19 July 2024 19:07 (two months ago) link
That early to mid 80s jangly sophisticated pop sound (think Aztec Camera, Postcard Records, The Lotus Eaters, etc)
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Monday, 22 July 2024 03:19 (one month ago) link