Bring On the POLL - ILM Artist Poll #116 - THE POLICE - (Results Thread)

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This song used to piss my dad off so much when it came on, maybe this was the most punk thing they ever did? Also funny that Andy goes full-freudian on sting's jung-themed album

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:31 (three years ago)

Didn't vote for it though - as much as I admire it, it really is terrible

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:32 (three years ago)

"You think you can misread Freud, boy-o? Watch MEEEEEE!"

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:33 (three years ago)

xps 1978-1983 is a kind of a transitional time. The last gasps of the New Hollywood ("Days of Heaven," "Apocalypse Now," "Raging Bull," "King of Comedy," "Heaven's Gate," etc.) The "creative executives" were taking over and you can see more studio meddling with the mutilation of films like "Blade Runner."

But a lot of great stuff happening in the margins. Great burgeoning talent (Albert Brooks with "Real Life" and "Modern Romance," David Lynch with "The Elephant Man," Jonathan Demme with "Melvin and Howard," David Cronenberg with "Videodrome," Sara Driver with "You Are Not I," George Miller and Joe Dante getting established in Hollywood with their "Twilight Zone" segments), long-time mavericks making a comeback or still plugging away (John Cassavetes with "Gloria," Sam Fuller with "The Big Red One" and "White Dog," Ivan Passer with "Cutter's Way," Dennis Hopper with "Out of the Blue," John Huston with "Wise Blood") and the underground scene was just starting to flourish (Charles Burnett's "My Brother's Wedding" among many others).

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:37 (three years ago)

This song is amazing and hilarious. And it's in 7/4.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:39 (three years ago)

solo is awesome tho

And lifted from Fripp’s solo on Eno’s “Golden Hours”!

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:43 (three years ago)

Great post birdistheword and I agree that there are some great movies during this era. Looking at a list of movies tho, there was a lot of crap too. I hope I got some good posters out of this exercise.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:50 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/gQ7QXsZ.jpg

39. Rehumanize Yourself
From: Ghost in the Machine
Released: October 2, 1981
119 Points, 4 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:51 (three years ago)

I mean:

https://i.imgur.com/EEAgjra.jpg

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

I'm very busy at work today and won't be able to do 20 like I had originally planned. This will be a slow reveal today but maybe that's OK?

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

That movie looks like a remake of Bedazzled which was actually a fun movie.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:56 (three years ago)

it's okay -- rehumanize yourself!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:56 (three years ago)

love this song, maybe my favorite of Copeland's Police tunes

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:58 (three years ago)

It’s actually a collab with Sting? I’d forgotten that.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:02 (three years ago)

I think Sting wrote the lyrics, Copeland did the music. well, Sting is probably responsible for the uh "sax arrangements" as well

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:10 (three years ago)

sting wrote the lyrics, Stewart wrote the music iirc. Never been a fan of this one tbh, lyrics are way too on-the-nose and delivered with sting's most snide-sounding vocal, listening to it actually makes me want to turn into a robot and tase the guy till his socks catch fire.

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:12 (three years ago)

shocked by the c word in this as a kid, first time I heard it on record

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:12 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/gKfLJkw.jpg

38. Too Much Information
From: Ghost in the Machine
Released: October 2, 1981
143 Points, 5 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:22 (three years ago)

the weird filler tracks on ghost are better than the weird filler tracks on the other albums. i voted for a couple, not this one tho

xp or this one

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:24 (three years ago)

love this one, what a groove

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:30 (three years ago)

otm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

See the whole world six times over

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:41 (three years ago)

Voted for both of those Ghost tracks, they're jams.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:45 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/QyBPbIo.jpg

37. Shadows in the Rain
From: Zenyattà Mondatta
Released: October 3. 1980
148 Points, 5 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:52 (three years ago)

RIP

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

have realised that I now very much prefer the police when they're exploring atmospheres, textures and grooves - I guess in retrospect you could say their proto post-rock tendencies - rather then when they're more bent on rocking out, as potent as they often were in that mode. But it's the spaces I'm into, and how they arrange things around that, and this ghostly one is one of their best for that I think

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:39 (three years ago)

anyone want to say anything about the differences between the police and the clash in how they approached dubby sounds? clash always seem to use dub for political songs, police use it for creating haunted spaces

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:43 (three years ago)

I mean I could develop that thesis further myself but I know fuck all about the clash tbf

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:45 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/QlqmmEK.jpg

36. Murder by Numbers
From: Synchronicity
Released: June 17, 1983
Bonus track on cassette and CD editions
149 Points, 5 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:53 (three years ago)

lol, i did not relate images with songs but in this case it works.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:53 (three years ago)

I think the Police incorporated dub more organically than the Clash did — as a core part of their Sonic foundation rather than an adventurous add-on. Though some things on Combat Rock got close, like “Ghetto Defendant.”

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:54 (three years ago)

lol

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:55 (three years ago)

"police use it for creating haunted spaces": in this, they mostly resemble Remain in Light Heads to me…

is it at all clear that the Police knew about and listened to dub? The Clash surely did, whereas I almost think Sting was like, "I like Bob Marley and reggae is the element that differentiates us from many acts," but did he go further than that? I don't see Andy being particularly interested, and Stewart liked it again as a way to distinguish his drumming, but I don't see them being all into King Tubby or Heart of the Congos…

veronica moser, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:03 (three years ago)

I dunno -- I could imagine Stew blasting HOTC.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:08 (three years ago)

In the movie Copycat there's a part where Sigourney Weaver is reading a letter written by a serial killer and I'm pretty sure it's verbatim from "Murder By Numbers."

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

Murder by Numbers made my ballot. I had the cassette version of the album. Was surprised that it only got five votes.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:24 (three years ago)

eh, i'm pretty sure that most bands hanging around in london at that time would've been exposed to some dub. don't see why he wouldn't have heard HOTC either - he loved the beat and the beat released it on their label. check the tees!

https://s3.amazonaws.com/images.imvdb.com/video/250306704722-police-the-dont-stand-so-close-to-me_music_video_ov.jpg http://quietus_production.s3.amazonaws.com/images/articles/9007/Congo_Main_1339269341_crop_550x500.jpg

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:26 (three years ago)

was just listening to this actually, it is a pretty terrible recording but they are literally playing dub reggae - with a guest appearance by ranking roger!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XqvfyRkGCI

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:42 (three years ago)

I find the lyrical conceit and sing-songy chorus of “Murder By Numbers” to be a little insufferable.

“Too Much Information” OTOH is a pretty fun afropop jam. Didn’t make my ballot but it’s def. a good time.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:47 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/9hsuinW.jpg

35. Contact
From: Reggatta de Blanc
Released: October 2, 1979
165 Points, 6 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:52 (three years ago)

lol winner

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:54 (three years ago)

"Shadows in the Rain" the only one from my list so far.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:56 (three years ago)

lovely picture that i hadn't seen before of the police hanging out with uk reggae legends steel pulse:

https://www.urbanimage.tv/img-get2/I0000xCneKoF51f8/fit=1000x750/Steel-Pulse-U16822.jpg

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:17 (three years ago)

andy not in that shot as i'm assuming he took the picture?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:18 (three years ago)

xxxp dammit

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:19 (three years ago)

Forgot about this - Zenyatta Mondatta actually makes a memorable appearance in Jacques Rivette's Le Pont du Nord. Couldn't find a good clip, but here's two screencaps:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/106eeb397cc442b7d8e6153863188c7a/82e8c559c574302a-a4/s540x810/c53cc5708913a3b8f0ab1b89c04f1fd2f706c76d.png

https://64.media.tumblr.com/6f1c932d13604964e0d7cc36d94b4880/82e8c559c574302a-b6/s540x810/98cb4d81da8184b4b53e185c4851fdc4c9655ece.png

birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:40 (three years ago)

alright now here's a photo

https://i.redd.it/y8j84eep98541.jpg

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:43 (three years ago)

oh wow! O_O

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:46 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/8ArviBS.jpg

34. Does Everyone Stare
From: Reggatta de Blanc
Released: October 2, 1979
170 Points, 6 Votes

Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:54 (three years ago)

its so catchy, that last chorus could go on forever

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:55 (three years ago)


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