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― im a beacon of light (Spottie), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:35 (one year ago) link
It’s a no major label release allowed list with infinity knives & Brian Ennals at #1
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:36 (one year ago) link
stereogum albums: https://www.stereogum.com/2206970/best-albums-2022/lists/year-in-review/2022-in-review/
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
There was a time when I could get hype about anEarl Sweatshirt release
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
have you heard this one yet? it’s my fav thing he’s done
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
Maybe I’ll try it again but upon release I couldn’t get into it.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
it has the Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn collab and Makaya McCraven. other than that, whatever, not for me (#1 and 2 very good tho)
― I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link
really liked the Earl Sweatshirt too
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link
Treblezine
https://www.treblezine.com/the-50-best-albums-of-2022/
https://www.treblezine.com/the-100-best-songs-of-2022/
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link
yeah i'm definitely surprised that the big thief album has ended up somewhat underrated by all these lists
― ufo, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
Maybe it is partly that it came out early in the year (although you'd hope ppl would have memories) – and a bunch of the tracks were released last year, with some of them making "Best of 2021" lists ("Spud Infinity," the track that appears on the Pfork Songs list, was actually a 2021 release as well... but I guess it came out late in December, so it missed their 2021 cutoff. Whatever)
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link
I revisited the album recently, and I'm casually convinced it's one of the better albums to be released in my lifetime, by anyone (no joke)... I understand this may not be a universal sentiment, but I certainly didn't expect to see it plopped down at #7 or #8 on these lists, several slots below Alex G or whatever.
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
Yeah I relistened the other night for the first time in a little while and I still liked every song as well as the shifting shape of the thing.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link
Meanwhile, I have a strong weakness for and bias toward jangly indie-rock, but I really don't get why Alvvays is near the top of so many lists. It's fine but unexceptional, I like the Beths album better for something sort of in the same mode. How did this get designated as an AOTY contender in 2022?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link
yeah the alvvays album is just extremely... fine, don't get the hype here at all
― ufo, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
Some might recall from the "AOTY So Far" thread that the Big Thief was the only album that appeared on every mid-year list I aggregated. To what extent do individual pubs and journalists react to that and attempt to hype others, consciously or not?
― Indexed, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link
To what extent do individual pubs and journalists react to that and attempt to hype others, consciously or not?
― Indexed, Tuesday, December 6, 2022 5:02 PM (fifty-one seconds ago)
not at all. those mid year lists are just things everyone does to feed the content mill... prob not very much thought put into them and i highly doubt any writer or editor thinks about those lists for even a second after the publish button is hit or is referring back to those lists when it comes to year end
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
Question for any journalists who submit lists to different publications. In an end of year best of, do you submit the same ballot or tweak it depending on the genres they cover? I.e. does The Wire get the same list as Pitchfork or RA etc?
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
Same ballot.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link
I'm doing 3 lists: a top 10 for The Wire, a 20-album jazz list for Stereogum, and a 50-album list for my own newsletter/site (which picks up where the 50-album list I published at the end of June leaves off). There were 2 or 3 things on my Wire ballot that will be on the Stereogum list, and some crossover with the Burning Ambulance list(s) as well.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link
apart from beyonce the critical consensus feels more fragmented than ever this year
― ufo, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link
idk, top 11 or so seem pretty omnipresent
https://www.albumoftheyear.org/list/summary/2022/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:03 (one year ago) link
Yeah this Steve Lacy song is repulsively bland. Yeah cool vibes yeah. Vibes! Cool vibes. Fuck off
― imago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
Oh god the HUMMING
― imago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
I resisted that song the first few times I heard it but gave in.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:12 (one year ago) link
I just listened to it for the first time, haha, umm
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link
¬_¬
― imago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
this year i thought steve lacy had passed away for a few months and realised i had dreamt it
― nxd, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link
sorry steve lacy
― nxd, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
Bad Habit: Of all the lo-fi, vibe-y indie r&b that could have bubbled to the top of the charts in the past decade this is the song that made it huh? At least is more of a song than that Glass Animals one that was pretty much just *vibe*…
It makes me a bit sad to see that video of Steve Lacy himself frustrated at the success of the song, or rather the success of the snippet on tik-tok. The idea of people paying to see an artist only for a 10 second hook so they can record it for an instastory or tiktok or whatever and not even knowing the rest of that damn song makes me feel “get off my lawn” old.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 01:46 (one year ago) link
possible reasons why music you liked or expected to get high rankings on these lists didn’t do as well as you thought OR music you dislike did better than you expected
1. other people genuinely have different musical tastes than you2. these lists are often decided by committee, inevitably sanding down any eccentric personal favorites in favor of boring consensus choices (see also the annual ILM polls)3. an enemy of yours paid every music publication to knock your favorite album down 20 places4. you have terrible taste in music5. the universe is a random and cold place
feel free to refer back to these as needed
― na (NA), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link
Loophole: I don’t have any favorite albums anymore!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 06:46 (one year ago) link
you forgot a crucial one:6. inherent biases during the selection process
― I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 08:15 (one year ago) link
Does The Wire still do individual genre lists? I’m always curious to see those. I hadn’t gotten around to the Lucrecia Dalt album yet (their overall number one), so I’ll be checking that one out first. Ephemeron Loop and Dewa Alit look intriguing too.
― Skrot Montague, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link
I listened to the Lucrecia Dalt album twice last night and really liked it. Highly cinematic.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link
here's my annual spaghetti against the wall:
https://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2022.php
honestly bewildered that anyone with an ear for pop has placed anything else at #1, seems obvious
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link
weird to feel like the only person who liked/remembered the new paramore song lol
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
it's got a good chorus but has to slog through some pretty janky bars to get there
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link
@_@
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
Brilliant list as usual sean!
Finally someone acknowledges the greatness of Provenza!
That Passionfruit yt views number feels off though, could’ve sworn it was a massive hit.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link
― Skrot Montague, Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:16 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
It does!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
Sean: first time hearing that Shabason + Krgovich song and it’s a perfect fit for my mood this morning. Thank you so much for that one.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link
― Chris L, Wednesday, December 7, 2022 6:40 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yes! Reminded me of the last Weyes Blood album, in a weird way.
― Indexed, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link
I think the issue with Dragon New Warm Mountain is that glorious as it is, after a break people went back to it and remembered how fundamentally annoying 'Sparrow' was.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
incorrect
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:03 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
was the shabason + krgovich album not on the gorilla vs bear list? feels like catnip for that site
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
NPR is rolling out genre-specific lists: https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1138407917/best-music-of-2022
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
wonderful list, sean, as is your wont. it gives me plenty to explore.love that we have the same Rema favourite and wow at the swift Kwesta x Kabza pick. the Dunnie is a very pleasant afropop surprise.
― I did see Xhaka crotchgrab (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, December 7, 2022 8:09 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Good choice and a fantastic blurb
― Indexed, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link
https://consequence.net/2022/12/top-50-songs-2022-list/
― ufo, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link