"the bug" -- what else?

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well exactly, and it's rupture's side of that conversation i have qualms about. it is relevant so it does matter. it wasnt v useful of me to bring k-mart into it on reflection, there are similarities but i find the bug harmless really. he's like mike from spaced

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

he's like mike from spaced

haha! i don't agree, but that's a great summation him all the same.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

and answering the question about realness etc, there is as you know a hella big crossover between hip-hop/r&b/dancehall in london, the major us cities and jamaica, too. i don't really see salt shaker as a mash-up at all when you bear in mind rhythms like snake, bollywood etc, plus the crossover w/ ele tok etc working w lil jon and so forth. it's real in the sense that it works in both scenes it draws from whereas the just bug wouldn't. imagine putting him on a proper bashment bill w/ renaissance or something, live. he'd get chsed off the stage, i should think. it bears no relevance to dancehall.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

i know that's not what he's necessarily trying to do and some people will say what does that matter (and i guess it doesn't in some ways), but it's a fact nonetheless.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

yip i agree. doesnt affect yr point at all but out of curiousity the salt shaker 7s are bootlegs tho arent they? i only picked up the capleton but it's his same chat as on rain drops riddim, and on the same label. yellow and red volcanoes, prettiest 7s of 04

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

yeah they're kinda nice - i only got the tanya stephens one which is a vocal i've not heard, but i sort of presumed so. was really only a matter of time.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

The Bug might not work on a Bashment line-up any more than Prefuse 73 would go down too well in front of a Fiddy crowd, but to deny that he has any relationship to dancehall is pushing it a bit, wouldn't you say?

noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

not really... depends where your lines are drawn and mine are a bit before that. i'm no purist, but i don't think he has.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

Dave OTM re TOK and "anarchic pop" - great distillation there. BTW Dave I finally found Tanya's "Soft Inside" - great track! Up there with or even slightly better than the Chico version on that riddim (my favourite until now).

Maybe I'm just dense but you guys *are* talking about "saltshaker" as in the Ying Yang Twinz, right? Or something else?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

yeah it's a kind of boot. i'd not heard the tanya voicing of it (the only one i own) over any other rhythm, but had a feeling it might be, then mr fassy kindly clarified. sounds good all the same.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago) link

o there u go, voom voom's german isn't it?

prima fassy (mwah), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:14 (twenty years ago) link

you wrong, fassy, but will probably come close to pissing yrself laughing when i tell you they're swedish!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:25 (twenty years ago) link

voom voom is way better than anything i've heard out of germany... i'll just see if i can dig up a website for them or something

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:26 (twenty years ago) link

yeah they're based in stockholm. http://www.topazrecords.com/

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:29 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
Hi here is VolkanikMan from the interweb remix of Brandy's Turn it up :D !

Just wanted to say hello, coz I found that discussion here in Google ;)!

Bless

VolkanikMan, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 07:54 (eighteen years ago) link

aww!

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

The new album is really, really fucking good, the tracks with FlowDan on especially. It's kind of the perfect environment for his vocals - nice to see his verse on Bounce make a reappearance here.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Just noticed this thread is for everything that isn't the Bug. Ah well.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

london zoo is very good, but i have yet been able to handle it all in one sitting.

mark e, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

it's dark and heavy but i don't think as forbidding or hard work as it's been made out to be. loving the flowdan and warrior queen tracks as expected but i think it's hard to beat tippa irie's performance on 'angry'

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

talking of warrior queen, check her cut on the heatwave's piano riddim, 'things change' <3

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"prima fassy"

am0n, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

One of the all-time great usernames that.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

'Skeng' comes up on my WMP list as 'Skene' which is sort of off-putting.

NickB, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps my problem is that Angry is just so good, the rest of the album falls off afterwards.
admitedly i do need to dedicate more time to this album

mark e, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The new record is good, but it's not aggressive enough for me; I prefer the Killing Sound singles comp, billed to Razor X Productions (Kevin Martin w/the Rootsman).

unperson, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

One of the all-time great usernames that.

^^^this

I need to hear this but for me, over time, The Bug seems to have turned into something that's best experienced live - I've always had a total blast whenever him and Warrior Queen have played out

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

so weird, the first time i saw them live was at a house party for NYE 04/05, i think i drunkenly told warrior queen how amazing she was for about half an hour

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

what else should someone who likes king midas sound seek out of kevin martins? any of his 90s stuff? or any other ambient dub/reggae from other artists? KMS is really lovely.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 20 November 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

There's some similar-ish stuff on Pressure (the Roger Robinson, Paul St Hilaire tunes obv.) Obviously Rhythm & Sound. The Pulshar is really good IMO.

KMS on some influences:
http://kingmidassound.blogspot.com/2009/11/texture-tone-and-grain.html

We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 November 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

ta. would have thought massive attacks work with horace myself too but i guess thats obvious.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 20 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

We published an interview with King Midas Sound (Kevin Martin, Roger Robinson and Hitomi) today and he plays down the Massive Attack comparison saying they were probably listening to the same albums as the Wild Bunch used to listen to when they were recording. Full interview here.

I know this probably constitutes spam but we've got a micromix of the album done by Kode 9 as well, which I thought may be of interest to hyperdub fans.

Doran, Saturday, 21 November 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

hes prob right, but it doesnt stop them sounding a bit similar (in a v good way).

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 21 November 2009 09:06 (fourteen years ago) link

"the difference between us and Tricky is that for one, Roger sings"

i think its more that hitomi has a presence like martina that create the tricky comparisons

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 21 November 2009 09:10 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Anyone happen to have the King Midas Sound FACT mix archived...?

Sensational Howard (admrl), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 01:44 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

anyone like the new ep, infected? i dig the reworkings of the two songs from london zoo.

interesting interview of him (by dj/rupture) in some journal called bomb magazine.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 17 January 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm more interested in the adrian sherwood collaborations that are due out sometime.

mark e, Monday, 17 January 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Acid Ragga is pretty great yes?

Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWZqka5tqY

Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWZqka5tqY

Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAaFUoiOM-Y

r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

eight years pass...

Is anyone at all repping for In Blue by The Bug ft. Dis Fig? It's been on my radar since the announcement (released last month), but I didn't listen/wasn't in the mood until I came across it again on Friday, while combing my Bandcamp wishlist for monochromatic album covers. Only listened to it once so far, but first impression was positive, if not exactly earthshattering. Gonna throw it on in a minute while I make lunch on a cold rainy Sunday, and try to form some more coherent impressions.

I also really vibed with his Dylan Carlson collab from 2017, Concrete Jungle, which seems to have gone unnoticed on ILM.

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I reviewed it a couple of weeks ago. I also wrote about the Dylan Carlson one.

I did a podcast interview with Martin this year. He's a great guy to talk to.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

Good write-ups; I'll check out the podcast too.

I'm glad I'm not the only one hearing Basic Channel on In Blue!

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

no chat on the new one? It's big.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 28 August 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

this release has proved to me i am no longer on the NT promo list.
though to be fair, i am not surprised.
just a strange feeling given that they were one of first labels to ever send me promos.

back on topic re album : yeah, what i have heard is indeed massive.
a definite step up from the middling 'angels and devils' album.

mark e, Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

also, alongside the bug stuff, kevin has released a LOT in the last year.
the hardest working man in bass music ?

my eldest went to a thing a couple of years back cos Kevin was on the listings.
he managed to get a photo taken with him, and sent it to me just to piss me off.

mark e, Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

i'm more interested in the adrian sherwood collaborations that are due out sometime.

― mark e

still nothing on this.
even within the on-u scene, there is nothing.
such a shame

mark e, Saturday, 28 August 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

The new album's great. Hearing him on various Bug projects has made me into a big fan of Flowdan. I've heard two of his own albums now and they're really good, especially 2019's Full Metal Jacket.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 28 August 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link


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