Meet Me In The Bathroom - Please Kill Me but if Iggy was Julian Casablancas

Was it written by an ILX0r?

Anyway, I’m starting to feel a bit like Johnny Mercer hating on The Beatles or something so maybe I should should just unbookmark this thread.

I know it sounds like a horrible premise for meeting in the bathroom, but it is killing me that I can't remember the title (the cost of age or reading carelessly) especially because I think you might consider it worthy of passing interest.

xps i think the moldy peaches were really more of the "anti-folk" thing which was basically the artists who hung around the sidewalk cafe all day and watched each others' sets. they may have had a social connection to the strokes but they didn't play the same kinds of gigs afaik.

i think the influence of this stuff on local nyc artists was immediate and centralizing, i mean there were certain enclaves like the sidewalk and the tonic in the late 90's but mainly it was disparate, lots of individual artists pursuing their own thing. and then after the strokes in particular became huge, all these people started playing shows on ludlow street and many of them oriented their sound more in that direction. i remember several bands and artists who were unsigned/unrecorded and doing really exciting stuff turning more revisionist and eventually putting out kinda boring, disappointing records.

I always thought of Tonic as much more avant and experimental.

yeah it was the enclave for that "scene" iow.

they may have had a social connection to the strokes but they didn't play the same kinds of gigs afaik.

Notwithstanding that the Moldy Peaches later opened for them on tour, right? (i.e., I assume you're talking about the early daze)

The only notable thing about the strokes imo is that they named an album after the best Stevie nicks song

Adam Green opened for the Strokes at the Mercury Lounge in 2000. I WAS THERE

^You rock!

xp i know they opened for the strokes, but i mean, i think they were still hanging out at the sidewalk cafe a good amount post-fame. that was almost like a songwriters' workshop feel, mostly solo acoustic artists who knew each others' material really well testing new songs in varying stages of completion and sticking around for hours afterward.

there was this one folk singer from the sidewalk cafe whose email list i was on, i think he played with adam green a lot- and around this time he formed a full band and sent out a joke email blast saying they were opening for the strokes at madison square garden.

The groups I enjoyed most from that time aren’t covered in the book. Such acts as Moisturizer; Electro Putas; Crème Blush. Perhaps these groups were oriented more toward the Tonic scene, but they played various places.

Isn't that almost always the way with scenes?

Yeah. But it also points out the kaleidoscopic nature of scenes. Scenes are defined a certain way based on the perspective you’re coming to them from. My scene was much different from Lizzie Goodman’s scene.

Feel like I myself was already scened out, already scene-burned by this time. But à chacun son goût, I guess. Think maybe there’s a way to say it in English, can’t recall.

Though there was definitely overlap

Morbs and I were pretty much the same age. I appreciated his take at the beginning of the thread.

Also you don’t necessarily feel like you’re in a scene when it’s happening. It’s a pretty abstract concept. The passage of time makes people feel more wistful and that’s when they try to make sense of their own past, categorizing it or whatever.

Does anyone remember a recent novel about a WASP family and a babysitter and someone who used to hang out in Grand Central and Tompkins Square Park and had a loft apartment and there was some kind of heist involving a van

This isn't Nell Zink's Doxology, is it?

you know i think i was at that "parking lot" event, though i don't recall it being a parking lot. it was, like, a vacant lot on the corner of a block in williamsburg. there were lots of big rocks. really big, like you could climb on them. i was there with my wife and remember thinking how adorable it is that young people have bands that yelp and flail around. i would not have predicted they'd build a movie around it 20 years later. i sort of can't believe it *is* 20 years later. but maybe it wasn't the same event? it was the same bands, though.

yeah "vacant lot" is how i'd characterize it. ilxor tracer hand was apparently also there and characterized it the same way:

The Liars - classic or dud

Is that the one where Shoplifting played or was that a different one?

Actually I think that one was like two-three years later

i don't remember them but that's not saying much. these are the bands that played the year after:

‘OUTDOOR PARKING LOT’ Last summer, when the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and the Liars played a show in this same vacant lot, it was a total scenester media circus, yet still ended up being the coolest show I saw all year. This time the bands are way less hyped, which means it will probably be even more fun. The Numbers and Measles, Mumps, Rubella play damaged, herky-jerky new wave, Dan Melchior’s Broke Revue are neo-garage royalty, and the Rogers Sisters throw a punky girl-group party. SATURDAY AT 2 P.M., corner of Wythe Avenue and Broadway, Brooklyn. (Phillips)

Dammit, my partner and I have been brainstorming a band called Measles Mumps Rubella for over a decade now

I remember seeing Liars play Brownies and then the closing night of some weird punk club run by Portuguese dudes in Connecticut in January 2002 - they were **amazing**. At Brownies, both Bob Bert and Jim Sclavunos were at the bar - half of Sonic Youth's drumming alumni.

you know i think i was at that "parking lot" event, though i don't recall it being a parking lot. it was, like, a vacant lot on the corner of a block in williamsburg. there were lots of big rocks. really big, like you could climb on them.

i was there and i think it could've been both. the classic vacant lot being used as an outdoor parking lot until some developer figures out what to with it. i remember it being fenced in, as an outdoor parking lot generally would be. i remember seeing gideon yago there, because these are the stupid things you remember 20 years later. that glorious moment right before *every* developer in williamsburg figured out what to do with their lots. across the street was the gretsch building, which had just gone on the market or was about to, which was the beginning of the end of everyhing.

Watched this the other day - tldr: it's not v good - but was intrigued by a clip of the moldy peaches doing karaoke at what looks to be olde London ilx hangout the King of Corsica. I know that Beth Ditto came along once, did the MPs too, and I have repressed the memory?

City on Fire by Garth Risk Hallberg (xpost to myself on a memory that required patience - may not be worth anyone else's time!)

Whenever the strokes come on at the bar it’s such a drag

Now on Showtime streaming

Ugh

Opposite reaction to interpol. Love dem

Is Carlos in costume?

As someone who never watches many videos and stuff, nor lived in NYC... fun throwback. Not sure it needed 9/11 footage. Good work getting the Courtney Love flashing/napping with half the Strokes footage though. That's relevant.

Sounds like you’re just as qualified to comment as everyone else here so uh go ahead

i may not have been posting here so much at the time but i think you'll find my GAPDY credentials are all in order

Carry on then

There’s 9/11 footage? Is it, like, the graphic kind?

Gross

No not really. Probably it was only there because they had footage of Interpol walking around in the dust. No one really talked about it.

Oh ok cool, thx

There is some 9/11 stuff in the Other Music doc, but it’s pretty relevant for various reasons.

I saw that. Yeah it made more sense.

Does Meet Me In The Bathroom work better as a book?

No not really. Probably it was only there because they had footage of Interpol walking around in the dust. No one really talked about it.

I’m so NYC myself that I…well…um…references provided upon request.

+1

More like Carlostars, amirite?

Lol.

Does Carlos still love Interpol though?