CS + Kreme - Snoopy

I love this on first listen. Does feel even more claustrophobic, perhaps, but I was listening whilst cleaning my extremely messy office, so yknow.

This is really growing on me

this feels like the fraught escape from the mirrored nightmare chamber you were trapped in in snoopy

some fairly disturbing shit tbh especially “shred”

https://www.ursss.com/2022/06/cs-kreme/

Hadn't seen this before (concert from earlier this year, has some tracks from Orange).

at this point i think this can only be called a massive disappointment. unfair i know, but still. only thing that comes close to snoopy is the vocal track near the end with the acoustic guitar. will relisten soon, but realized that i have not thought about this album at all after listening to it every day when it came out, waiting for it to reveal itself, but now i think there's no there there, sadly.

Gonna have to disagree with you here. I'm enjoying it more with every listen.

I'm with paolo. I was initially a tad underwhelmed, but I've come around to thinking it's almost as good as Snoopy

same!

FYI don't know if anyone in the states is waiting for vinyl but I just got an email notification that mine shipped

I've also found it pretty hard to grasp. I've listened to it a few times from front to back, but cannot recall anything in particular other than a vaguely grim oppressive atmosphere and the striking cover.

Not even "Would You Like A Vampire?"

I wouldn't say that the release is a massive disappointment to be clear. Vagueness can be a worthy aesthetic in its own right, especially their version, which is disconcreting, mundane, horrific, occasionally revelatory. They're definitely channeling a structure of feeling. I think someone upthread mentioned Snoopy as a pandemic soundtrack. I can think of any number of other dystopian, yet ungraspable conditions we're living through.

"Would You Like A Vampire?" does feel an like exception on Orange. There's a sense of release when it finally arrives. Maybe it's comparable to the final minutes of "Mount Warning" in that respect. But somehow I don't recall it as strongly as the atmosphere that they build up before, then there's that image of the seaweed looking fetid and dead, maybe still swarming with some kind of bacterial life. Both hyper-realistic and allegoric.

I was maybe thinking of picking up it up on vinyl, even just for the cover image, which I bet looks pretty impressive on the sleeve.

Good post! And good points. I'll concede that, though I've probably listened to Orange close to ten times, which is a lot for me, I rarely have the patience for "Storm Rips Banana Tree." I just don't think it totally justifies its sidelong status, and I think perhaps this is where the vagueness you speak of falls short for me. I'm sure there are situations for which this track is perfect, but I haven't found them yet.

i mean it is still well made, and i know it is unfair to compare to snoopy which is singular both in its content and the context it found itself in

but still, there is not a lot going on underneath the well-done sound design. one stays on the surface with this record, maybe intentionally. it's like walking around a city with mild drug withdrawals or something. just does not have the enveloping quality of snoopy at all. but being twitchily outside was what '22 was all about so maybe they captured the zeitgeist again

it's like walking around a city with mild drug withdrawals or something

sold!

I cant tell if its not as good or not, I find it really discomfiting to listen to. not in a way where I think there's something wrong w it, but in a way where I dont find myself pulling it out much because its too effective at unsettling me haha. idk I like it a lot but also have a kind of fear of it

yall are just writing very tantalizing ad copy at this point

Orange is way too unsettling for me to have listened to during lockdown. Snoopy was just unsettling enough

I forgot I ordered this lol. Unsettling mysteries incoming.....

Deej OTM. I decided not to listen to this album any more because it just vaguely upset me.

there is a real queasiness to it. i’m drawn back to it though

"this album makes me feel bad and i don't want to listen to it ... maybe this is good" never change yall

i kid i kid, but still, it's not like snoopy made me feel good or anything. it's not about feeling good, it's about the quality of feeling bad, and on that measure snoopy succeeds via a sort of dream logic, this is a bit surface level to my ears, but will give it some more spins.

if you like 'orange' i feel like rabit's recent oeuvre is hitting the same zones

I think of this band as being mainly good bc of artfully juxtaposed surfaces so when ppl say 'this one feels surface level' im like well yea

playing in London on March 31st (sadly I'll miss them yet again): https://ra.co/events/1661923

i like orange more than snoopy!

danker, scrapier. you can’t imagine anyone calling it “illbient”.

i obviously apologise unreservedly for using that word.

orange is my new workout music btw not joking

despite knowing the artist I have always misread this thread title as “CS plus Kreme minus Snoopy”, thank you for listening

illbient is good, tho?

snoopy is cool because it is pretty traditional in terms of instrumentation, but super otherworldly in its effects. more badalamenti than anything else, really. or like certain moments in harold budd's catalog - like you can sing "where did blueberries go" over this track pretty easily!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo0ng_0NYnA

relistening to orange, it's unfair to compare it to snoopy. it has its own thing going on. and that thing is really bad, to me. i will say it's rare for me to actively loathe music, usually it's just boring, so they have accomplished something real in that sense.

I'm actually surprised by how polarizing this record seems to be. It isn't exactly leagues apart from the previous album

i think it is at least a league apart. to me it does feel like a very different thing from Snoopy.

as someone who has had trouble totally processing orange I definitely don't think its 'boring'

i feel like walking around Glasgow in early March would probably be a good way to "get" it

i'll try that tomorrow Tracer.

d-40, me neither; wasn't as clear as i could have been.

anyways. still one of the best acts out rn i think. and 'vampire' is truly excellent

feels like everyone is sleeping on this one and that makes me mad so i'm gonna spam this thread. i think i've listened to it more times than it has total youtube views. not cs + kreme but it lives in the same sort of dubby edge-of-dream echospace...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obGXbRYnCc0
Deep Heavy Fear - Doorway

bit of an insides vibe too i think

anyhow feel free to enjoy!

https://deepheavyfear.bandcamp.com/

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Love it

This sounds great.

Can you call yourself Deep Heavy Fear making this kind of music? I like it, but it's a bit like calling a death metal band, uh, Death.

https://thetrilogytapes.bandcamp.com/album/the-butterfly-drinks-the-tears-of-the-tortoise

hell yeah

Psyched for this one

ooh

always excited to hear new music from these guys, and I thought Orange was great (I know it divided ILM somewhat). I just wish it didn't cost $60+ to ship the LP to the states

Yeah I was very surprised to learn how much international shipping costs these days (particularly from the UK?).

Love that they're sticking with TTT for this (labelmates!).

this sounds excellent.

Now That's What I Call Neo-Folk!

yeah, sounds great.

new album out now

It's growing on me on a third listen; I still miss the more song-based approach of Snoopy, but this sounds awesome.

Also loved this mix: https://nr.world/cs-kreme/

great mix, incredibly boring interview

new album is just ok imo, and I rated Orange higher than most