pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

they had a pretty cool mix of grunge/metal moves with that good ol' choppy angular post fugazi/jawbox etc u.s. post hardcore stuff

the main dude is Walter Schreifels (Gorilla Biscuits from NY X HC daze and after Quicksand the excellent Rival Schools)

quicksand is one of the dopest rock bands to ever exist. their album from last year rules

oh shit i didn't know they were still around!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EoL5am4PLI

hey I missed it but where did Girls Against Boys - House of GVSB finish on this list?

higher or lower than Hissing Prigs in Static Couture by Brainiac?

idaho is feeling very sinister

That's Montana.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, October 25, 2022 11:46 AM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

darn gotta brush up on my united states of dots

Also Mariah Carey is not nearly as popular with Pitchfork's readership base as it with its staff.

Idaho is Sinister, being WA's eastern neighbor. Montana is the Pearl Jam - Vs (?) album cover. Surprised WA wasn't Nevermind or Ten over OK Computer.

Props to NY!

Or maybe not, apologies. Had to check a map. Seems like the top bit is WA, MT, ND, MN, WI, and second row is OR, ID, WY, SD, IA. So ... never mind.

the point, i think, is: doing the map of the U.S. that way is beyond ridiculous, and no visual professional should've OK'd that. in this writer-not-visual-professional's opinion.

i haven't clicked through ... i assume that was really on the P4k site and the post up there wasn't a joke, right?

Yeah, though on the site you can hover over each hexagon to see which state it is.

I just thought it was funny how... non-diverse their data set obv is, and how little is revealed by slicing it up geographically.

lol i was just crossposting this

striking thing to me is that messing with all the age ranges/gender/etc the changes aren't really that big, obv some things change but overall most drawn from a small handful of albums

loveless is officially nonbinary canon

only one boringhead album in the top 10 is also an achievement

there's two unless you meant Portis not Radio

it's gotta be portis because radiohead is so exciting!

actually now I realize Left meant in the non-binary list, nm

Thread has made me dig out Slip and Venus Luxure No.1 Baby. Thanks thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3brYxY5Gdps

loveless is officially nonbinary canon

Cocteau Twins as well.

sure i'll take it

Did not expect readers of over the age of 65 to be really into Trip Hop.

They would have been 34+ in 1991... I wouldn't expect it off the top of my head but given that context I get it. Going to a 10-years out of date fern bar and trying to pick up a fellow divorced person while the stereo plays Massive Attack... that's just nature taking its course.

Sour Times, indeed

I used to know an old bloke who was hugely into massive attack. he turned out to be a creep around women 1/3 his age so hopefully not representative

pitchfork should should do a focus group where they ask their readers to rate their ratings.

how does a 6.5 rating make you feel?
...about a...seven. a 7.2
ok, how about a 7.4 rating
5 point.....five.
8.2?
8.4.
8.4?
8.2.
how about a 10?
9.2.

did cosmic baby make the list?

table i was here! i was probably saying really dumb things though, so please don't look them up. i would have been z s during those classic pitchfork days

the readers' list is a bit more varied than i would have expected so congratulations to pitchfork in successfully improving the taste of its readers?

in general the readers' lists are pretty good

It’s November 2… I think I complain about this every year, but feels like this must be earlier than ever(?)

https://pitchfork.com/news/vote-now-for-your-favorite-albums-and-songs-of-2022/

Vote closes November 15? Gonna vote Weyes Blood and Richard Dawson 1 and 2 and leave the rest blank obv

To say nothing of anyone releasing in December

dum. There's a * after 2022 that doesn't seem to be defined. It oughta be "or November-December 2021."

oh it just means required field. It's the only field. And you have to pick stuff they reviewed. you can type a space and see all the options.. lol. They gave Arca's Dec 2021 albums BNM and they're not eligible for what that's worth.

you are not allowed to have read Pitchfork for more than 25 years. wuh oh

cake was not a good band

did they Sunday Review Cake?

i fuckin' hate Cake

Wasn't going to mention it before but

Fashion Nugget is like an oversized diner menu. There is something for most people: mariachi, jazz, tango, funk, country—none of which were cool at the time. Nor was stewing disparate genres in the same pot.

I'd say alt-rock acts making a point of "stewing disparate genres in the same pot" is very mid-90s

it's the same year Odelay came out

My thoughts exactly

Cake the absolute worst band, could understand wanting to reassess but there’s not much there except whitened dog turd

Ween stewed genres better.

Cake were a very good band. Ween are one of the worst things to ever happen to music.

Motorcade of Generosity >>> Fashion Nugget, but Cake are underrated in either case.

Okay, I'll take it back— Cake were great musically. The vocals and lyrics were and remain cringe.

Black artists—like dubwise hardcore pioneers Bad Brains or ska-punk eccentrics Fishbone—the walls were closing in from both sides, as they were shut out from both the white world of rock radio and the Black mainstream star-making apparatus that favored slick R&B balladeers, synth-funk loverboys, and fashionable rappers.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/living-colour-vivid

This para seems… off to me

Specifically the snide part from “slick” onwards