The Cure: Classic or Dud?

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Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 October 2022 02:19 (three years ago)

roger probably didn't know it was happening until perry walked onstage

akm, Monday, 10 October 2022 01:53 (three years ago)

Dan Perry joined the Cure?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:05 (three years ago)

LOL

No, he's not back yet!

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 October 2022 02:39 (three years ago)

Another new song debut - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yLPtVXXGTQ

Really into these new ones, have listened to Endsong a number of times now inc a better recording where the dynamics were more apparent- and there’s a cool drone note at the very beginning that sits inside the first chords in a really nice way

really into the “Disintegration but old and tired” vibe - like I don’t think this album is gonna be Blackstar but maybe it will be a really worthy final Cure LP with some poignant reflections on love & loss - and I think these might feel more resonant coming from a 63-yo Robert Smith than did Bloodflowers’ grumbles about turning 40

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:26 (three years ago)

songs of a lost world can't be their final album when they've got a second one on the way, remember (lol).

but since the new material is actually showing up it doesn't seem that impossible that we actually get both albums next year. or the second one will be delayed until after 4:14 scream

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 04:54 (three years ago)

OMG, this is also great. Maybe waiting until they were really ready was the right move.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:09 (three years ago)

three new songs does seem promising - and the merch calls the tour “shows of a lost world” which reads nearly almost like commitment that something might perhaps happen

ha i guess i’m assuming it is a last LP is partly because I am reflexively preempting Robert’s regular “i wanted this to be our definitive statement and after this I don’t care if the band breaks up” rhetoric - and honestly, it would be miraculous enough if this came out, let alone another one - but there’s definitely a Last Songs thing going on lyrically

Really hoping that it is better recorded than their last few LPs

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:14 (three years ago)

he said in early march that songs of a lost world was almost finished (& that the second album was already complete) - he was just putting the final touches on it & he was hoping to release it in september/october before the tour but he was frustrated about that delay being necessary due to vinyl lead times. i'd guess that if it is indeed finished then the vinyl times have blown out well beyond what he thought & it'll be out next year.

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:43 (three years ago)

I still maintain my 'I'll believe it when I see it' with regards to a new Cure record but this is the most promising it's looked in some time yea

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 05:49 (three years ago)

Don't these new songs sound like Disintegration retreads to anyone else? Oh, well.

I watched most of the Riga set last night and was happy to hear them do favorite old chestnuts like "The Walk". At times Smith's voice is uncanny. It hasn't changed and he can hit that high "I kissed you in the water..." and still sound like 1983. Good thing he quit smoking all those years ago!
"From The edge Of The deep Green Sea" is never not breathtaking.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 07:52 (three years ago)

Don't these new songs sound like Disintegration retreads to anyone else? Oh, well.

tbf

really into the “Disintegration but old and tired” vibe

disagree though

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:05 (three years ago)

.......they sound like Bloodflowers retreads.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:05 (three years ago)

on first acquaintance they seem more successful than Bloodflowers IMO - more majesty and less plodding - and as mentioned above, i somehow find the lyrical bent a little more affecting this time around, when it really does seem to be informed by genuine emotion around loss and grief

but i am also clearly willing the Puported New Cure LP to be worthy - and i am okay with that

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 09:54 (three years ago)

they sound more like disintegration retreads than bloodflowers retreads, which is a very good thing

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:17 (three years ago)

like decent disintegration retreads are pretty much the best possible thing they could be doing at this point

ufo, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:19 (three years ago)

yeah total agree!

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 10:29 (three years ago)

top retreads u cowards

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 11:07 (three years ago)

^^ this!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 12:35 (three years ago)

I still maintain my 'I'll believe it when I see it' with regards to

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 14:52 (three years ago)

you'll all be sorry when they release the three-disc "69 Lovesongs" in December

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:25 (three years ago)

Whenever I 69 with you
You make me feel like I am etc

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:55 (three years ago)

This is all you need from that sentence: c/p it, turn it into a macro, and then use it liberally regarding any exact Cure future plans or activities or news and you'll never be disappointed.

I'm a Wish deluxe edition denier me. Won't believe it until I get it home and play it.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 16:50 (three years ago)

69ing an Arab

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

I think you mean 69ing Another

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:10 (three years ago)

Suddenly I stop
And I know it's too late
69ing in a forest
All alone

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:48 (three years ago)

I have questions

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:49 (three years ago)

Also:

Fall fall fall fall
Into the wall
Jump, jump out of time
Fall fall fall fall
Out of the sky
Cover my face
While the animals 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:50 (three years ago)

The album title's a METAPHOR, god

imago, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:54 (three years ago)

Xp

Sometimes we would spend the night
Just 69ing on the floor
And even though it felt soft at the time
I always used to wake up sore

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:07 (three years ago)

Show me show me show me
Show me how you 69 that trick

(If you will.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:08 (three years ago)

You remember that day in Paris
When we wandered through the rain
And promised to each other
That we'd always sixty-nine
And dreamed that dream
To be two souls as one

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:21 (three years ago)

I would say I’m sorry
If I thought that you would 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:51 (three years ago)

This is stranger than I thought
Six different ways inside my heart
And every one I’ll keep tonight
Six different ways to 69

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

Wait, just occurred to me that we haven't done the joke in the opposite (Magnetic Fields) direction.

The book of lovecats is long and boring

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

I really want a cover of Lost that undoes all the ugly production/screaming and really knows what to do with that bassline - the latter swoops in and out a la Swastika Eyes in the version in my head

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:05 (three years ago)

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:05 (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Such a pity this wasn't seventeen seconds ago.

giraffe, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:24 (three years ago)

<ding>

Another new song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_Eumowa5Q

Musically sounds like they calculated the exact median between Homesick and Untitled, then went from there. Lyrically it is (unusually) openly about the death of his brother, there was a bit of a preamble about it too. Followed up with the most committed version of Disintegration I've seen in years and years.

Really hope this new album is well-recorded. The new songs sound Disintegration-y but with (even) less variation - reminds me a bit of that last Pink Floyd album The Endless River, where every song sounds a bit like another song and the resulting effect creates a kind of ambient rock feel.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Friday, 21 October 2022 00:47 (three years ago)

Stunning, I want this album NOW.

Bee OK, Friday, 21 October 2022 01:10 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

Another new song, Fargile Thing;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmxUSFj8p1o

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:00 (three years ago)

Sorry, song is actually called "A Fragile Thing.'

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:08 (three years ago)

i preferred the original title

dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:42 (three years ago)

Yeah, "Fargile Thing" would be a great title.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 November 2022 22:47 (three years ago)

probably my least favourite of the new songs? the closest musically to that Bloodflowersy MOR plod - underwhelming drum patterns have killed a lot of latter-day Cure songs for me and this feels like another casualty

musing on what an Actually Good Cure LP might sound like in 2022, I thought that it could be great if they took Laughing Stock as a jumping-off point - really leaning into sparseness and silence, taking that lovely facility for constructing interlocking melody parts and deconstructing it- minimal goth pastoral, if you will

(admittedly it is a weird pastime daydreaming about how beloved legacy band might make interesting creative choices, but I suppose ILM is a relatively safe space for this kind of thing)

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:18 (three years ago)

Step 1: Sack Jason
Step 2: *literally anything*
Step 3: Brilliant album

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 5 November 2022 23:34 (three years ago)

I just want the new album to drop already, obviously it's done. I only listen to these previews once or twice so they will be still sort of unknown when that finally happens.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:10 (three years ago)

xp tbh i am still pretty skeptical of Reeves Gabrels as a Cure member - recently someone on twitter posted video of his solo from From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea - and it sounds dumb but it struck me in a way it hadn’t before that a member of Tin Machine was in The Cure - and at that point I had to have a little lie down

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:14 (three years ago)

Bee OK there was some talk on twitter that something would be released digitally before the end of the year (but vinyl wouldn’t be til 2023)

multiple pinches of salt required obviously

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:16 (three years ago)

I don't see it happening this year because of Wish but it should happen in the first of 2023.

Bee OK, Sunday, 6 November 2022 00:19 (three years ago)


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