They're both guilty of sticking the high-margin items in your face
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link
I hate the podcasts and desperately wish I could block them, but somehow have never even seen an audiobook on there.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:53 (one year ago) link
Ah, it's US only, so this new bit of crap is still in my future.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
I hate all the stupid “THRIFTED”, “THRASHERS”, “FRESH EXPERIMENTAL” whatever “curated”playlists they shove in my face on every artist page, it’s like who cares
― brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link
Glen, there are some pretty big mistakes on Golden Palominos tracks in the Spotify catalogue I thought I'd mention to you:
1) Cookout on both versions of the self-titled album and on The Celluloid Collection is actually Darklands from the record, A Dead Horse:
https://open.spotify.com/track/2o1SH4ILklYkxEkpvK8Nnk?si=74033515ec7f4f96
2) On A Dead Horse (the 2001 issue, not the one from 1989) -- Angel of Death and Lucky are listed in the right order but the music is swapped (Lucky is supposed to be the bluesy one, AoD the ethereal tune).
https://open.spotify.com/track/0OSxKSy4OsHsJmQfcjIRpE?si=ecf3b0c808304bce https://open.spotify.com/track/1V58ggzs5vDXNXADuVrPkm?si=205e172cf1ec4bdc
It sounds like Tidal has had some issues with their catalogue as well, so it's not just Spotify. But another ILM user said you might make these changes faster than the official channels -- and since the head of the band passed away last month, you may be getting more traffic than usual to them.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
Passed along to the right team...
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link
Even without podcasts/audiobooks cluttering the place the library is pretty much useless if you're an album person and you have a large collection. I don't get why it's so hard to have an album library similar to the ones music players on computers have. Hell I can create albums folders on Desktop/web Spotify so why not on the app?
― Dinsdale, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
Thanks, glenN.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link
Thanks so much for that BA fix Glenn - really appreciate these
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link
Did Spotify get rid of the ability to add albums to a playlist? On the app the option no longer shows up for me. I see some people on Twitter reporting the same.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
still works for me
― Brad C., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
Hey there! We'll let the team know you'd like to see that feature return in the future. Let us know if there's anything else.— SpotifyCares (@SpotifyCares) October 12, 2022
Seemed like it was actually removed in the new update. Terrible decision.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link
Seems
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link
Yikes, I use that feature all the time. Every year I create a playlist for newly-released albums, adding them as they come out and listening whenever I have time. Dipping into that playlist probably accounts for 30-50% of my Spotify use.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 12 October 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
on what version of the app are you seeing this? doesn't really make sense that this would be disabled altogether. so far I'm not seeing it on the android version, the windows version, or the browser version.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
iPhone app
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
The twitter and support threads don't ever know moment to moment what the product managers are testing in the app. So you can report a change to twitter or support and they will not have any idea if what you are seeing is a bug, or an A/B test, or a new feature change for all users. They will just say "try reinstalling the app, and we'll let the team know about your experience, thank you for your feedback." There are too many product teams testing changes on the 3 major platforms (web, iOS, android) and sundry minor platforms (alexa/echo, car integrations, etc).
Adding albums to playlists still works for me so it's probably an A/B test or a bug.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link
Aimee Mann currently singing her way through a song called 'Nothing is good enough - Instrumental'.
― ledge, Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:11 (one year ago) link
This is a pretty old one but for the remix release of The Juan Maclean's 'Feel Like Movin' the Leon Vynehall remix (6:30) and the radio edit (4:09) remain the wrong way around
― nashwan, Thursday, 13 October 2022 11:25 (one year ago) link
I did an epic 10-hour Spotify clean-up yesterday and can confirm the 'add album to playlist' feature still exists. I have the most recent updates of the iOS and Windows apps, and it's avail on both.
I just discovered the playlist folders feature. It's an organisational godsend. Really handy for sorting different types of playlists (albums by genre, new stuff, mixes by you, mixes by others etc.)
With folders, I feel like I'm on top of my Spotify for the first time in years.
Also discovered that almost everything I liked in 2014 is terrible.
― The Ghost Club, Thursday, 13 October 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
hmm, well I'm glad this isn't an official feature. I wish they would bring back the ability to add albums to playlists for me though.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link
I just discovered the playlist folders feature
WHAT
― death generator (lukas), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
I've been happily using folders for years but I can report that I can no longer add albums to playlists on the iOS app - it's "Add to your Library" or nothing.
― Alba, Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
And yes, I have the latest version, v8.7.68
― Alba, Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
This is from the help forum:
Hey everyone,
Thank you for your inputs so far.
Our tech folks have confirmed that this is part of an ongoing test we're currently running for some users. Feel free to check out this thread where you can share your feedback on the change and let us know how you think the feature can be improved.
uh, wtf?
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
folders are great, but I'm still salty that you can't play an entire folder in the mobile app. there is a workaround for this which is to start playback in the desktop app and then shift playback to your mobile device, but that's a pain in the butt.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
just to be clear, folder playback was a feature that was originally in the mobile app and then taken away
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link
Shuffling giant playlists always seems like a good idea for about the first 10 minutes and then feels increasingly like a black hole.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link
I enjoy it, the bigger the better
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link
If you want to jazz up your listening of giant playlists, I recommend http://sortyourmusic.playlistmachinery.com/. It lets you sort playlists by various criteria then save the new order as fresh playlist. My favourite one is 'energy', so you start with the quiet stuff and end on a party. Tip: with really long playlists, make sure the whole thing has loaded first before clicking on one of the column titles - otherwise it won't let you save the new playlist.
― Alba, Thursday, 13 October 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link
I just discovered the playlist folders featureWHAT
Not sure why it's surprising that someone would primarily use the mobile app?
― The Ghost Club, Thursday, 13 October 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link
Playlists full of albums have always felt a little unwieldy for me, so on playlists that I'm using to keep track of albums, I just put in a single song from each album as its representative. I figure I can always click over to the full album when I want to listen to it.
― jaymc, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link
I don't know why I never thought of that. Genius!
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 14 October 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link
I don't know if it's a bug or if that's just the way Spotify handles multi-artists releases but I was looking for an album made by Colin Stetson, Elliott Sharp, Billy Martin and Payton MacDonald called "Void Patrol", and I couldn't see it anywhere on Colin Stetson's discography page so I figured it just wasn't there. But then I looked for "Void Patrol" and I found it. All four artits are listed on the release and you can click on them, but it doesn't show up on any of the artists' pages.
― Dinsdale, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
Looks like that Void Patrol album is credited to "Void Patrol" at the album level. The individual artists only appear in the track credits, which means it shows up in their "Appears On" sections, rather than in their main discographies.
― glenn mcdonald, Friday, 14 October 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
My bad, that's correct. I did look at the "Appears On" section but only the first few releaese that appear on the artist's page, assuming it would be listed with the most recent first.
― Dinsdale, Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
They're sorted by popularity. (They used to be sorted by date, but some labels started spamming tons of pointless re-compilations of existing songs to take advantage of that, so we had to change it.)
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 16 October 2022 00:44 (one year ago) link
the search bar on desktop version is baccccck!
― Spottie, Friday, September 23, 2022 12:50 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
but the search being embedded back in the top bar is good
― Spottie, Friday, September 23, 2022 1:11 PM (three weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
and just like that.. its been removed again. idgi
― Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 06:40 (one year ago) link
Unless it’s different to last time it’s just an aesthetic change that makes no difference to the number of clicks though. As soon as you click on search it gets the focus and you can start typing your search term, just like when the bar was always visible. I suppose it’s a smaller target but there’s always the keyboard shortcut.
― Alba, Monday, 17 October 2022 06:48 (one year ago) link
Always an interesting UX psyche study - does the search field being always visible mean people use it more?
― nashwan, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:28 (one year ago) link
I’m sure it does. Which in turn creates an interesting philosophical question: if you’re being nudged into not using a feature but still the retain the ability to use it with no significant difference in ease, do you still have a legitimate grievance?
― Alba, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:41 (one year ago) link
I was wondering - is it correct to say that streaming payouts are a zero sum game? If, hypothetically, all current users doubled their listening so all artists doubled their streams - this would not yield higher payouts?
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
Right, the current standard royalty model for music streaming services is based on percentages of revenue, so doubling all listening on a given platform would not change the payment results.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 17 October 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
Although if the total listener numbers doubled, presumably the ads would cost more to buy, so there would be more revenue to split.
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 17 October 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
― Alba, Monday, October 17, 2022 3:41 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
its a smaller target with other clickable things around it. much easier when its just up there by itself. why add it back after two years then delete again so soon?
― Spottie, Monday, 17 October 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
They should have stopped "improving" the app years ago - the best thing ever on Spotify was the Blue Note app.
― sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 17 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I miss that
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 October 2022 00:08 (one year ago) link
xp thanks, makes sense
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 18 October 2022 06:14 (one year ago) link
i hate it when mummy and daddy fighthttps://www.timetoplayfair.com/audiobooks/
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 13:12 (one year ago) link
Glen, there are some pretty big mistakes on Golden Palominos tracks in the Spotify catalogue I thought I'd mention to you:1) Cookout on both versions of the self-titled album and on The Celluloid Collection is actually Darklands from the record, A Dead Horse: https://open.spotify.com/track/2o1SH4ILklYkxEkpvK8Nnk?si=74033515ec7f4f96🕸2) On A Dead Horse (the 2001 issue, not the one from 1989) -- Angel of Death and Lucky are listed in the right order but the music is swapped (Lucky is supposed to be the bluesy one, AoD the ethereal tune). https://open.spotify.com/track/0OSxKSy4OsHsJmQfcjIRpE?si=ecf3b0c808304bce🕸 https://open.spotify.com/track/1V58ggzs5vDXNXADuVrPkm?si=205e172cf1ec4bdc🕸 It sounds like Tidal has had some issues with their catalogue as well, so it's not just Spotify. But another ILM user said you might make these changes faster than the official channels -- and since the head of the band passed away last month, you may be getting more traffic than usual to them.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link