I referred to BBB obv.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 October 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link
Restraining order!
"Daryl Hall Gets Restraining Order Against John Oates in Hall & Oates Legal Battle"
https://variety.com/2023/music/news/hall-and-oates-lawsuit-restraining-order-1235805425/
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link
That is . . . very odd.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
mods rename thread toHall and Oates
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
awww shucks
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:36 (six months ago) link
Say it isn't so!
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:36 (six months ago) link
Hall and Oates
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:37 (six months ago) link
This is absolute twaddle.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
Sounds like they've fallen out of touch
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
just a case of possession oatessession
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:41 (six months ago) link
It appears that they may have lost that lovin' feelin'.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:43 (six months ago) link
Oates may literally be hiring private eyes
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:43 (six months ago) link
neither has the other on their kiss list?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:45 (six months ago) link
or... hmm
anyway obviously the headline should read Daryl Hall Gets Restraining Order Against John Oates in Daryl Hall & John Oates Legal Battle
― maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:46 (six months ago) link
We will soon find out which one of them is defending the indefensible.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:55 (six months ago) link
he can't go for that
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:58 (six months ago) link
John Oates: "Daryl left me feeling like an Abandoned Luncheonette"
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 16:58 (six months ago) link
They’re now War Babies …sorry
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:06 (six months ago) link
i guess everybody isn't high on consolation
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:15 (six months ago) link
sorry, charlie, for the deposition
You can kind of follow the dynamic through song titles:
"They Needed Each Other""Can't Stop the Music (He Played It Much Too Long)""Better Watch Your Back""You Know It Doesn't Matter Anymore""Grounds For Separation""Back Together Again""Bigger Than Both Of Us""Room to Breathe""You'll Never Learn""You Must Be Good For Something""I Don't Wanna Lose You""Wait For Me""Who Said the World Was Fair""The Farther Away I Am""Don't Leave Me Alone With Her""How Does It Feel To Be Back?""Every Time You Go Away""Tell Me What You Want""I Can't Go For That""Mano a Mano""Go Solo""You're Out of Touch""Going Through the Motions""I Wasn't Born Yesterday""What's Going to Happen to Us?""Starting All Over Again""Sometimes a Mind Changes""I Ain't Gonna Take it This Time""War of Words"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 17:19 (six months ago) link
Personally I think this lawsuit has gone too far, cause you know it don't matter anyway.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 18:50 (six months ago) link
On a serious note: Hall is on record explaining who did what on their biggest singles (i.e. the "Out of Touch" chorus), dunno when Oates let the toothpaste out of Hall's tube.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:33 (six months ago) link
I fear I manifested this into being by thinking the phrase "Hall versus Oates" too many times. I'm sorry, everyone.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:38 (six months ago) link
Oates once called himself the world's most overpaid backup singer. I don't think that's fair; I know he contributed a lot.
But come on, man. He's had so much success that even his facial hair is famous (there's a comic book about it). He'll be fine.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 19:53 (six months ago) link
My introduction to Hall & Oates was a Late Night with Conan O'Brien sketch (jump to 1:53 for the relevant part) and the "I'm Oates" SNL sketch that I caught later on as a re-run. I didn't listen to Hall & Oates at all until years later, but I still innocently assumed that the idea of Oates contributing little was a blatant distortion for the purposes of a joke. So I was surprised in 2007 (probably the peak year of their revival and re-evaulation) when I saw Hall's blunt assessment in this Pitchfork interview:
We are not an equal duo, and never have been. I'm 90% and he's 10%, and that's the way it is. And he'd say the same thing.
To be fair, he frames it in more flattering terms, praising Oates for what he actually does do, but there's no getting around the fact that "my partner is 10%" sounds pretty shitty.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:12 (six months ago) link
You have to wonder how Hall's career would have gone if he'd been solo from the start. Probably not as successfully!
― sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:15 (six months ago) link
At minimum he needs a harmony singer, and Oates's guitar parts are pretty good. Maybe he would've joined up with Fripp for a longer stint, even singing for the '80s King Crimson?
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:25 (six months ago) link
The duet with Elvis Costello in Goodbye Cruel World - Costello's worst album by his own admission was not a bright spot for Hall.
Generally I think he chose the right partner. Their success was global and massive.
Some of the Darryl's house collaborations were cute and fun, but that was just a victory lap.
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link
He's blessed with a voice like Todd Rundgren, only purer, and he has to act like a colossal dick. What a world.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:38 (six months ago) link
a better voice than Rundgren imo, and he can't project warmth or empathy. He's at his best when writing or singing about being a colossal dick.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:56 (six months ago) link
As a persona, that's great (in moderation), but why carry that over into real life? Especially when you've enjoyed such massive success.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:00 (six months ago) link
Deep insecurity, maybe.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:01 (six months ago) link
A deadbeat dad too apparently.
― stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:12 (six months ago) link
From Philly too
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:13 (six months ago) link
Colossal dick? I dunno, he seems pretty small in the "Out of Touch" video
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAVA_uZOf0ndzwJf8XXI9lNg7tawa4HGHIoQ&usqp=CAU
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:24 (six months ago) link
maybe hanging out with Fripp is what gave him the balls to be so ornery to his former collaborator
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 23:09 (six months ago) link
https://thehardtimes.net/music/hall-and-oates-partner-with-smokeless-fire-pit-company-that-brings-friends-together/
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 23:21 (six months ago) link
even his facial hair is famous (there's a comic book about it). is there?
― vashti funyuns (sic), Thursday, 23 November 2023 05:36 (six months ago) link
It was actually an online cartoon.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 23 November 2023 06:33 (six months ago) link
More info:
Daryl Hall has sued his longtime music partner John Oates, arguing that his plan to sell off his share of a joint venture would violate the terms of a business agreement the Hall & Oates duo had forged.
The move quickly prompted a judge to temporarily block the sale while legal proceedings and a previously initiated arbitration continue.
A Nashville chancery court judge issued the temporary restraining order on Nov. 16, writing that Oates and others involved in his trust can't move to close the sale of their share of Whole Oats Enterprises LLP to Primary Wave IP Investment Management LLC until an arbitrator in a separately filed case weighs in on the deal, or until the judge's order expires — typically within 15 days, unless a judge extends the deadline.
― birdistheword, Friday, 24 November 2023 20:40 (six months ago) link
Ah, so it's a temporary injunction, not a protective order.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 24 November 2023 20:43 (six months ago) link
Oates: I'm selling my 50% of our partnershipHall: Don't you mean 10%
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 24 November 2023 20:55 (six months ago) link
It's a method of modern law
― Oh I believe in Yetis' Day (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 24 November 2023 21:06 (six months ago) link
It didn't work for Morrissey and Marr!
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 24 November 2023 21:13 (six months ago) link
xxp LMAO
― birdistheword, Friday, 24 November 2023 21:44 (six months ago) link
Oates will just have to rely on his old fans' money
― sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Friday, 24 November 2023 21:52 (six months ago) link
It's somehow fitting that a Hall & Oates thread would become a gathering point for dad jokes.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 24 November 2023 22:07 (six months ago) link
We’re a Family Man
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 24 November 2023 22:22 (six months ago) link