A proper “epics” comp sets you up for walking outside into the ultimate “long song”, which is life. This one puts your life, the long song, in the past, and then begins counting down to the shorter segments. We all know where that ends. Shame on ccr management for approving that one
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link
I'd seen the "Lookin' Out My Back Door" clip/video that ends the film before, but in this context, it felt like I was watching artists rise to a moment of complete mastery that very few reach--Dylan all over Blonde on Blonde and Rod Stewart on "You Wear It Well" are two that come to mind for me. "Lookin' Out My Back Door" isn't Creedence's greatest song, probably not even one of their ten greatest. But it has a kind of small-scale perfection, and the band looks like they're having the time of their life. I don't know if it's based on an actual acid trip--probably--or if Fogerty's poking gentle fun at that kind of writing. The film frames that moment, just after the Beatles breaking up, as Creedence's ascension to the biggest rock band in the world. If biggest translates as commercial clout, I'm not sure if that's true: Led Zeppelin's out there, and--not sure of the timeline--Grand Funk are filling, or are about to fill--80,000-seat stadiums. But watching that clip, it's like Creedence knows they're now the best band in the world, better even than the (pre-Exile) Rolling Stones.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
You are talking about this video, clemenza?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPlXU65NTI
― Misirlou Sunset (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link
ccr is such an amazing band that "lookin' out my back door" is not automatically a top 10 song for them.
(it is, for me. but it's debatable and there are way more than 9 other contenders)
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link
If biggest translates as commercial clout, I'm not sure if that's true: Led Zeppelin's out there, and--not sure of the timeline--Grand Funk are filling, or are about to fill--80,000-seat stadiums.
Grand Funk didn't fill Shea Stadium until 1971, and while Zep were touring arenas and large halls in 1970, Creedence had already done that circuit in 1969. Cosmo's was Creedence's second #1 album in the US and their fourth top 10; by that time, Zep had two top 10 albums in the US, one of which hit #1. So yeah, I'd say Creedence was definitely bigger than Grand Funk in 1970, and while Zep were getting there, they still weren't quite as big as Creedence. I'd argue that Creedence's ubiquity on AM radio (which Zep avoided) is what put them over the top in terms of popularity.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
That's the video, yes...If anyone hasn't seen it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aae_RHRptRg
I think it's in colour in the doc, no? Largely because of that clip, I'd put it in my Top 10 now. I had it 11th (on a list of 11) when we did the poll a few years back. Which reminds me--how could they leave off "Ramble Tamble" (my #1 for the poll) on that epics compilation?
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
well you could play side 2 first....
xxxxxxp
― Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
(xposts) I guess they did have their moment at the top of the heap then.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
unfortunately, thus sang, freud, playing side 2 first would just take a glaring problem and make it even less comprehensible. you'd just be starting with a somewhat epic Suzie Q, at 8:34, and then, just as you're preparing to ramp up toward the neverending song which is life, you go back down to a mere 6 minute Pagan Baby, followed by the 5 minutes of Born on the Bayou which flies by, at that point. then you flip and finally remember what life is, which is 11 minutes of I Heard it Through the Grapevine. but before you can even find your socks, Keep on Chooglin' is over before it hits 8 minutes. it's just fucking over.
no. make a playlist and start it with the shortest songs, then build up toward life
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link
when you have heard the longest song of your entire life and finally understood it, then you can go outside
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link
If you’re doing a CCR epics comp and not closing with “Keep on Chooglin” you’re doing it wrong.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:46 (one year ago) link
make it a live 12+ minute one though imo
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
this has probably been done before but what are the best CCR covers?
you'd think there'd be a ton of covers because most CCR songs are relatively easy to play. but it's the intensity of the band's playing and fogerty's singing that really makes the songs, so maybe not? i'm scanning for 30+ minute epic versions of keep on chooglin' by other bands and no one has even topped 10 minutes. it's like they're not even listening to the message of the song
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
hold up, CD bonus tracks? can somebody run those down for me?
― sleeve, Sunday, 2 October 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link
The best Creedence covers are by the Minutemen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07x3W3F9e44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwtC3jouxjk
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 2 October 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
Ike & Tina showed that the best (only?) way to successfully cover a Creedence song is to completely rearrange it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzQnPz6TpGc
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 October 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
I was actually wondering this morning, has any movie or TV show or whatever done a slow moody cover of a CCR song? is it even possible?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 October 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxchDzwuOE
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
Like some kind of Al Green cover of something maybe? Oh, forgot about that one! ^
― Misirlou Sunset (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link
Don't know if it actually means anything but I was struck by a comment in the doc about how driven Fogerty was after getting discharged for Creedence to make it big fast; and how fast and intensely they tore through their hits when performing live. It's also unheard of these days for a band to have such a burst of brilliance in basically a 3-year period. They were emblematic of how fast music itself was evolving at that time. And all in the relatively brief window where you could be a guy from California singing about the bayou and the south and not have too many people raise an eyebrow.
― Chris L, Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
*discharged from the army; not sure what happened to that sentence.
Someone (probably not me) needs to make a Keep On Chooglin' megamix a la John Oswald's "Grayfolded", where he patchworked together multiple versions of "Dark Star" into a 2-hour Dead album even the Wire would review.
― *wonders what he's got himself into* (Matt #2), Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link
an 8-hour mega-choogle could be fun to play at a workplace, every single day. "it's one of those things that only makes sense on the third or fourth listen"
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
unrelated: when my sister was in Grade 1 her teacher was a well-known local guitarist who later quit teaching to run a music shop. For the school concert he got his class of 6-year olds to sing “Lookin Out My Back Door” while he backed them on guitar & it was the cutest, funniest, greatest (and weirdest) thing i’ve ever seen. It wasnt until many years later that my sister & i realizrd they’d performed a song about dropping acid (allegedly) <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 October 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
Not exactly groundbreaking, but I've always liked this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQRuTJzEMsI
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 October 2022 19:58 (one year ago) link
I like Pavemwnt's "Lodi."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 October 2022 20:07 (one year ago) link
Ah the Welsh tribute group (in before correction)
― Mark G, Sunday, 2 October 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
Lyrics heavily changed and there are several live versions of this by different line upshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Heo6DcbG3wY
― Stevolende, Sunday, 2 October 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link
What I like about their "middle" albums is that even when playing roots-based music, there was usually a psychedelic vibe underneath the surface that gave everything a very effective tension. Sometimes it would erupt when the song called for it (like the beginning of "Run Through the Jungle") but elsewhere it could give their music a menace or foreboding that was pretty unique to them. The instrumental "Side O' the Road" and "Effigy" (both of which close out Willy and the Poor Boys) come to mind.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 2 October 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
Dunno if Hanoi Rocks' CCR cover is truly that great, but they certainly get The Man rockin' in the promo. Also they wear more eyeliner than Creedence ever did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZQjRfQ5BPw
― *wonders what he's got himself into* (Matt #2), Sunday, 2 October 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
Sleater-Kinney's "Fortunate Son" is nice n punky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgIhnVJeKck
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 2 October 2022 22:38 (one year ago) link
Crowded House, of all bands, sometimes did a great "Born on the Bayou" (with the guitarist at the time singing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUCpCOx3zBk
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 October 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link
Where can I listen to Pavement’s cover ?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 3 October 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
Bob Seger is full-on stadium rock in this righteous live cover of "Fortunate Son" that was a b-side in 1983.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mog7Kts3kVQ
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 October 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link
I heart Dave Alvin's version of "Don't Look Now"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1ETLNRXEs
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 October 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link
xxp I don’t know about “Lodi,” but the final track of the expanded Terror Twilight reissue is a live cover of “Sinister Purpose” (looks like YouTube has some live takes, as well).
― certified platinum by the British Pornographic Industry (morrisp), Monday, 3 October 2022 01:50 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvbyGSFX3c8
Dig how at the climax all of her guitar players go up to the lip of the stage, BÖC-style.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 October 2022 02:32 (one year ago) link
I downloaded that Pavement cover of "Lodi" off of Napster, and haven't ever seen it anywhere else.
― pplains, Monday, 3 October 2022 02:55 (one year ago) link
From an Indian battle of the bands competition Simla Beat in 1970 (which Shadoks reissued in the 2000s), this garagey version of “Sinister Purpose” by Dinosaurs is a fave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts3E2Y4VSdk
― city worker, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link
“Sinister Purpose” is such a great title in itself
― calstars, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
I think my favorite performance in the concert is “night time is the right time” just so joyous and fun
― calstars, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:22 (one year ago) link
So few ccr songs are about “Romance” so that one stands out a bit as well
― calstars, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:24 (one year ago) link
True, better than the original title: "Deadly Dolphin".
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 3 October 2022 03:47 (one year ago) link
Let us now praise Thea Gilmore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J4mPbSBtHQ
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 October 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link
Note, that is specifically for Josh in Chicago.
Thea Gilmore's cover was used in I think a zombie heist movie not so long ago?
There is a Rasputina version out there but personally I think it inferior to Gilmore's.
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 October 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link
i'm imagining the ukulele cover of lodi set to a volkswagen commercial
♪♪just about a year ago, i set out on the road ♪♪
― Karl Malone, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link
"dad, i have to tell you something""what is it, honey? you can tell me anything""i flunked all my college classes. and you're paying for it all""it's ok -- i love you no matter what, and i love this vehicle"
♪♪Things got bad and things got worse I guess you will know the tune♪♪
― Karl Malone, Monday, 3 October 2022 04:30 (one year ago) link
(Army of Thieves was the movie I was thinking of, btw. Anyways it is an exquisitely sparse and tender cover; I urge you to listen to it thoughtfully. If you do not find it moving, you are made of an inert substance and I pity you.)
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 October 2022 04:35 (one year ago) link
that crowded house cover is excruciating -- wow
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
kinda… inverse-meta(?) for pavement to cover “Lodi” (it’s adjacent to the city of Stockton)
― brimstead, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link