Ah, apart from various tapezine type things, two only
One "Rough Trade Shops" has "Reality Asylum" and "Revenge of the she-punks" out just now has a track from "Penis Envy"
― Mark G, Friday, 30 September 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
There was something in the liner notes about how they couldn't licence the Clash, Elvis Costello, and (in the NYC set) Talking Heads.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 September 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link
IIRC, a similar thing happened with the Just Can't Get Enough New Wave series. Several bands were unavailable to them at the time.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 September 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
I recently got a UK punk scene box set called "No Thanks" which was apparently what the Sex Pistols replied when approached to license a track for it.
― Mark G, Friday, 30 September 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
That's a good set but the UK set "1 2 3 4 Punk & New Wave" is even better.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 1 October 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link
Bought on 7" at the time: Wild Youth (there's an extraordinary dub B-side)
Wild Dub: Dread Meets Punk Rocker Downtown1) The Ruts - Jah War2) The Clash - Bankrobber [Dub Version]3) Generation X - Wild Dub4) Basement 5 - Immigrant Dub5) Pil - Death Disco6) 3 Be 2 - One Of The Lads [Dub]7) Stiff Little Fingers - Bloody Dub8) The Pop Group - Where There Is A Will9) Red Beat - Red Beat10) Killing Joke - Turn To Red11) Grace Jones - Private Life (Dub Version)12) The Slits - Typical Girls [Brink Style Dub]13) Vivien Goldman - Private Armies [Dub Version]
Follow up by other hands/headz:https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/va-modern-wild-dub-dread-meets-disco-punk-rocker-downtown-cd/EB.045CD.html
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link
That is, the first comp, though of tracks recorded much earlier, came out in '03, the second, in response, recorded about then and released 2004.
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link
1. "The Day the World Turned Day-Glo"2. "Alternative Ulster"3. "Hong Kong Garden"
― clemenza, Saturday, 1 October 2022 04:46 (one year ago) link
if we're talking other mid 90s CD comps, this one was way ahead of it's time:
https://www.discogs.com/release/925941-Various-Totally-Wired
― dan selzer, Saturday, 1 October 2022 05:21 (one year ago) link
dan, that's a killer tracklist!
― The Ghost Club, Saturday, 1 October 2022 05:57 (one year ago) link
Xposts yeah I got that "wild dub" cd last year.
My copy of "Wild Youth" had "No no no" on the b-side. Quite rare, but.
― Mark G, Saturday, 1 October 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link
Was gonna mention Totally Wired after my previous post! Is Razor & Tie still around? Got some other good stuff issued by them.(Anthologies, sometimes like Complete Works, of some heavy hitter individual UK bands from this era could still be found on Kill Rock Stars' Bandcamp last time I checked.)
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 13:20 (one year ago) link
I don’t think razor & tie are still around but our own veronica moser wrote some liner notes for them back in the day
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 1 October 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link
I've compiled my own third volume:
D.I.Y.: It's The New Thing - UK Punk III (1977-78) https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3Lf7wqYn4ezUwh0sYRREwX
(THE RULES: no act appears more than twice on Vols I-III combined, no duplicates with the Rhino UK Pop comps, all on 7" except for two Peel Session tracks, total playing time fits on a CD, approximately chronological, strict cut-off in December 1978)
1. White Riot - The Clash2. Sick Of You - The Users3. Young Savage - Ultravox!4. Johnny Won't Get To Heaven - The Killjoys5. Can't Stand My Baby - The Rezillos6. Ain't Been To No Music School - The Nosebleeds7. Shadow - The Lurkers8. Newtown (Peel Session) - The Slits9. Complete Control - The Clash10. Science Friction - XTC11. Wading Through A Ventilator - The Soft Boys12. Love Lies Limp - Alternative TV13. New Religion - Some Chicken14. Mirage (Peel Session) - Siouxsie & The Banshees15. Suspended Sentence - John Cooper Clarke16. Don't Ring Me Up - Protex17. Gordon - The Cravats18. C.I.D. - UK Subs19. Read About Seymour - Swell Maps20. Nobody's Scared - Subway Sect21. Sweet Suburbia - Skids22. Public Image - Public Image Ltd23. Damaged Goods - Gang Of Four24. Where Were You - The Mekons25. Part Time Punks - Television Personalities26. It's The New Thing - The Fall27. 10:15 Saturday Night - The Cure
― mike t-diva, Saturday, 1 October 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link
The Stranglers is one of the bands I always think about where I ignored later material at my own peril...another is Undertones, where some true punks only like the first two, when the third is the real masterpiece, and even I avoided the fourth for years only to finally put it on and go hey, this is also really good.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 1 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
It's a shame some fans were always so tight-assed about what was and wasn't punk, even before "hardcore" (not that some bands weren't just as bad about it) To me, it was always most of all the attitude, pushing yourself and your audience, even or especially if it meant to crash and burn (or just look a fule) and keep going. Not, "oh this bit is from that music crowd over there, not acceptable."
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link
(of course that's not just a punk thing)(omg jazz controversies)
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
Mike, that's a fabulous comp, gonna spin that today! Some great obscure picks. That's a killer Subway Sect track, too.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link
The Cravats! Good call
― brimstead, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
Don't know them or Protex or Some Chicken (best name) atall---will dive in, thanks!
― dow, Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link
I <3 The Cravats
― sleeve, Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link
me too. that's a great comp Mike.
Some Chicken is a v underrated record imo! love the guitar on that, both sides
for the comp in the poll - the first 2 tracks are my least favourite, then it's basically all good
Borstal Breakout is a banger and a half.
― Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Friday, 30 September 2022 15:17 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
^ 1000%
am emotionally attached to The Day The World Turned Day-Glo for reasons so probably that one
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 2 October 2022 01:00 (one year ago) link
that's not my favourite Cravats song, I do like it a lot but I would pick Who's In Here With Me?
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 2 October 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
"Precinct" for me but yeah
hi bovarism <3
― sleeve, Sunday, 2 October 2022 01:03 (one year ago) link
oh yeah Precinct is great! that's the A side. it's about a shopping centre in Redditch which I should know about because I grew up near there but I've never been to Redditch
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Sunday, 2 October 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
Alternative Ulster, narrowly beating I Am The Fly
― paolo, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
Protex is great irish power-pop from the label Good Vibrations. What I really regret is not yet watching the movie Good Vibrations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Vibrations_(film) which is all about the founding of that record label and the belfast punk scene and looks like a lot of fun.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 2 October 2022 15:30 (one year ago) link
Is VG+
― Mark G, Sunday, 2 October 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link
I was limited in my Cravats choices by the December 1978 cutoff, which left only one single. Protex particularly needed to be in there repping for Ulster, as The Undertones were also ineligible (according to The Rules). “Alternative Ulster” came within a whisker of getting my vote, but having the lyrics written for them by a journalist, and having “IG-nore the bores and their laws” in said lyrics, stopped it just short of perfection.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 2 October 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link
Is the titular Gordon the same one that Jilted John referred to as a moran?
― Misirlou Sunset (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 October 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link
No relation.
― Mark G, Sunday, 2 October 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
Deep cut the youtube pushed my way that I can't believe isn't anthologized more on 77 punk comps: The Wasps "Teenage Treats"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6svx8Qtcam0
― bendy, Monday, 3 October 2022 16:57 (one year ago) link
The Fall
― CerebralCaustic, Tuesday, 4 October 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
aww poor "Borstal Breakout"
― sleeve, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link
Hooray for Subway Sect.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link
I voted Subway Sect in the end.
i always knew they were a big infuence on all the Fast Product / Postcard Scottish bands but didn't realise just how much until i read Hungry Beat.
https://www.whiterabbitbooks.co.uk/titles/douglas-macintyre/hungry-beat/9781399600248/
Great read!
― stirmonster, Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:34 (one year ago) link
sad i missed this til now. alternative ulster/hong kong garden, even though closer to that era i woulda picked uhhh let's see what did i really want back in the day. probably buzzcocks and the jam, really.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 October 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link
fwiw if that X-Ray Spex song wasn't here I would've voted for Borstal Breakout
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Thursday, 6 October 2022 10:13 (one year ago) link
Been waiting for my copy of Hungry Beat for ages, can't wait to read it, and can't wait to see if it effects my decision to try to move ahead with a publishing project.
but regarding Subway Sect, being who I am, I think a LOT, i mean A LOT, about post-punk. What it is. What it means. Where it came from. Where it went etc.
disregarding america, where what we now call post-punk if often just as likely pre-punk or Television or Talking Heads or weird art-damaged proggy DIY releases from 1975 cleveland, I do look at the UK narrative separately, despite obvious influences and overlaps with america...
point is from what I've read Subway Sect is sort of where it started. The early days of UK punk here's this band that's wearing sweaters and sports coats and singing this literate stuff. Maybe it's just one version of punk, but important seeds are sown with them. Simultaneously add Siouxsie and the Slits. Then, and timelines get confused as it's all happening really quick, The Prefects and The Fall.
Follow this by Magazine and PiL and the gates are wide open.
A lot of these bands though, such as Subway Sect, the Fall, Prefects etc, existed for a year or two before getting their records out.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 12:42 (one year ago) link
Dan, are you still in the business of releasing compilations or obscure artists? I imagine you could do justice to many unsung heroes.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link
I am very much not in that business. I wrote this in 2017: http://acuterecords.com/blog/?p=1114
I may be entering the business of publishing instead, for various reasons, though that would be on top of a few other businesses like a day job and a side-gig so who knows.
There are a lot of great labels doing great reissues these days, so I feel like it's covered pretty well.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
america, where what we now call post-punk if often just as likely pre-punk or Television or Talking Heads or weird art-damaged proggy DIY releases from 1975 cleveland
ha yeah, i totally get this and have "felt" that but never thought enough to draw the line more cleanly.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 October 2022 15:05 (one year ago) link
despite being a new yorker I was always a bit UK-centric and like, didn't really get into the Talking Heads until well after I was a decent UK DIY type collector and it's pretty shocking to realize how much great post-punk is a reflection of that. Like uk post-punk is the influence or dub, reggae, jazz, funk, disco, krautrock etc into and w/ punk energy, but also the influence of Talking Heads, Television, No Wave, Pere Ubu etc.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link
so much of my historical perspective/ignorance/listening is right on this line and like i know maybe enough to see all the 76-78 divergence/coalition going on in uk music and i am AMAZED by all the cross pollination going on in there. so i end up getting super fascinated by like, what is monochrome set really doing in here at all? how would blitz kids even get spun off it? how is an outlier like bill nelson out there? (last two is just bowie lol)? why was american band friends of this uk band and went over, but not aware of usa band who did stuff more like themselves?
and looking at uk stuff i am always amazed how all them ppl knew/interacted with each other, so much more intensity
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 6 October 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link
well UK is much smaller than US, and a lot of that US stuff came out on big labels like Sire and was promoted well. Then it's a question of what Rough Trade would have imports of?
― dan selzer, Thursday, 6 October 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link
D.I.Y.: Teenage Kicks - UK Pop I (1976-79)
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link