https://gallery.98bowery.com/2022/william-eggleston-how-you-look-at-it-folded-card-sprengel-museum-hannover-germany-2000/
― Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link
https://dangerousminds.net/comments/william_egglestons_photos_of_big_star
― Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link
No doubt already linked upthread
― Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link
My wallet doesn't thank you.
Meanwhile:
Amy: There’s a funny story I have about Alex and Lesa from early on, way before the Klitz formed. I was fifteen years old and my mother, who had just gotten divorced, was taking a trip to England. She had Lesa, who was eighteen or nineteen, babysit me and my younger sister Gretchen. My mom loved Lesa and figured she’d make a great babysitter since she had so many siblings (laughs). It was one nonstop party. Alex was over the whole time. I remember scrubbing wine stains out of the furniture before mother got home....Elise: We named the band on one drunken evening. Marcia thought of it. We were drinking at Zinnie’s, going over band names for forty-five minutes. Finally, Marcia said, “Let’s just name ourselves 'The Clits.’” Alex got that grin—"Klits with a 'K.’“ And I said, "Yeah. And let’s end it with a 'Z.’” That was it: “The Klitz.” Later on, I told my Granny Gail the name of our band. She replied, “Oh, yes, Klitz: German for 'pistol.’” She was German. Bless her heart.
...Elise: We named the band on one drunken evening. Marcia thought of it. We were drinking at Zinnie’s, going over band names for forty-five minutes. Finally, Marcia said, “Let’s just name ourselves 'The Clits.’” Alex got that grin—"Klits with a 'K.’“ And I said, "Yeah. And let’s end it with a 'Z.’” That was it: “The Klitz.” Later on, I told my Granny Gail the name of our band. She replied, “Oh, yes, Klitz: German for 'pistol.’” She was German. Bless her heart.
― dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link
Many years back I was working at a museum that put on an Eggleston show and I did a short interview with Jim Adkins from Jimmy Eat World about using an Eggleston artwork. https://unframed.lacma.org/2010/12/01/jim-adkins-of-jimmy-eat-world-on-william-eggleston-and-album-art
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:32 (two years ago) link
Nice! I like that comment about the trophies.
― Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link
Yeah! Meanwhile,At one point, Old Man Chilton described his later Big Star work as "the songs of a maudlin young man." Certainly not close to mostly true, but I'm reminded of it while listening again to his voice mushing all over "Holocaust," otherwise a good song and track. Listening again in comparison and high contrast to Pauline Murray and The Storm's take:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmOE6HuSnpk
― dow, Saturday, 8 October 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link
Oops, sorry so late seeing this, Jody!
⭐ Please join us in wishing Jody Stephens a very Happy Birthday! ⭐ pic.twitter.com/hR8fGFqqXC— Big Star (@BigStarBand) October 4, 2022
― dow, Thursday, 13 October 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link
Yet another Omnivore sale, Less Than Perfect (applies to packaging only; we're assured that vinyl and discs "are fine"). 50 % off, ltd. quantities, Dec. 5-7 (sorry, I just now saw it). Incl. Big Star's Live At Lafayettes 2-LP, and the monster Chris Bell box:http://omnivorerecordings.com/less-than-perfect/
― dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link
Just now got around to reading Stanley Booth's Salon profile of Eggleston; thanks for the link!
― dow, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:29 (one year ago) link
:)
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link
kinda amazing yoko ono doesn’t have credit on “holocaust” at this point.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 11 December 2022 05:18 (one year ago) link
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/320244251_3435985983391562_4810279882859262212_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=vetoUPyzJvgAX-eVReu&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&oh=00_AfA7Ui_pM4wt3Y2a2JkHBvub9KKPArOq6SZXU0U2BqEULw&oe=63A0462E
― nickn, Friday, 16 December 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link
Wonderful! - is it your Christmas tree??
― willem, Friday, 16 December 2022 06:46 (one year ago) link
No, found it on facebook.
― nickn, Friday, 16 December 2022 07:39 (one year ago) link
A+
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 December 2022 09:53 (one year ago) link
There’s a fine line between stupid and clever and that falls squarely in the clever camp
― calstars, Friday, 16 December 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
Beauty! Even Chilton might approve (well maybe). Wonder if that's a real fireplace? If portable replica, I'd buy it.
― dow, Saturday, 17 December 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link
2-Day 50%-off CD Sale over at Omnivore, including many Big Star and Big Star-adjacent titles
https://omnivorerecordings.com/welcome/
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 January 2023 17:49 (one year ago) link
This tyme: Adjacent Central---
For three days only, Tuesday, July 11 through Thursday, July 13, take 50% off select titles from co-founders Alex Chilton and Chris Bell. (We’re even throwing Chilton’s sessions with dB’s co-founder Peter Holsapple into the mix!)
― dow, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link
What does this lyric mean to you?
Won't you tell your dad, 'Get off my back'Tell him what we said about 'Paint It, Black
Read two interpretations today that claim 'we' = narrator and the girl's dad (as if their mutual appreciation for a vintage Stones tune should cool tensions). That's a fucked take, right? To me this does two things: (a) dates the action of the song to the mid-'60s, which is closer to when Chilton would've been 13, and (b) implies that narrator and his girlfriend have some kind of ill-fated love pact involving this creepy nihilistic Stones tune, which to me adds a kind of strangeness and darkness to this otherwise cute and innocent tween love tale. You know?
Thoughts?
― budo jeru, Friday, 28 July 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
The latter.
― Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
I always read it as "you and I bonded over this song and yr dad will never understand"
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 28 July 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link
I never even thought of the line as ambivalent, interesting how subjective this stuff is
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 28 July 2023 21:51 (one year ago) link
I never even considered that “rock in roll is here to say” was what they said about “paint it black”, that’s some serious Ralph Viking shit on my part, thought it was just an unrelated aside
― brimstead, Friday, 28 July 2023 21:54 (one year ago) link
^Why would the narrator be hanging out with the girl’s dad?
― calstars, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
xxp
― calstars, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link
I imagine Alex as an obnoxious rebellious teen listening to the Stones back in the day, and dad just doesn't get it and doesn't want this creepy kid and his rock n roll around his daughter.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link
Girl’s dad drove narrator home from chess tourney and PIB came on the radio and they had a deep conversation about it
― calstars, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:07 (one year ago) link
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, July 28, 2023 4:50 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
right, this is basically my interpretation too
― budo jeru, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
A lot of your songs with Big Star were romantic songs, and some of them were even spiritual, but just what is “Thirteen” about? I don't know.
I don't know.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link
"Thirteen" is prob in my top ten "songs-qua-songs" of all time, it is perfect in every way
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link
top ten top five
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, July 28, 2023 5:07 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This too. I was kind of overselling it with the love pact thing, but the fact that they bond over "Paint It, Black" and not "Love Me Do" definitely adds a menacing quality to the song / narrator
― budo jeru, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:25 (one year ago) link
Tell ‘em what we said ‘bout 4’33”
― calstars, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link
Some guy was on cookandandbombd recently bending over backwards to use 13 and others as hard evidence that AC was a wrongun
― PaulTMA, Friday, 28 July 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
Won’t you tell your dad to leave me aloneTell him what we said about Coltrane’s Om
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
I think it is a near certainty that he was exactly the type of kid that southern dads wouldn't want any where near their daughters.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 28 July 2023 22:48 (one year ago) link
Sheets of sound are here to stayCome inside where it's OKAnd I'll annihilate you
― budo jeru, Friday, 28 July 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link
The Big Star Bandsplain was great and talked a lot about this song. Alex didn’t like it (wtf). They talked a bit about how Alex missed out on being a regular teen. 16 and on was touring with the Box Tops, but before that his family life had gotten weird. His brother died and afterwards his parents spun out into being party people and didn’t really parent him much. He was drinking, doing drugs and grieving when he was 13. The song can be read as him fantasizing about the teen life he missed out on.
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link
> He was drinking, doing drugs and grieving when he was 13.
Damn. Never thought of Chilton as a proto-Mark Kozelek.
― Melomane, Saturday, 29 July 2023 01:46 (one year ago) link
Alex didn’t like it (wtf).
FWIW, he was dismissive of pretty much all of the classic Big Star stuff.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2023 02:18 (one year ago) link
Hey 13, that's Alex Chilton
― pplains, Saturday, 29 July 2023 04:14 (one year ago) link
otm
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 29 July 2023 04:55 (one year ago) link
always interpreted that paint it black lyric to mean the same thing as
Your sister says that I'm no goodI'd reassure her if I could
from Bell's "You and Your Sister" which seems like a continuation or almost a sequel to 13, just learned Chilton sang backup on that
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 29 July 2023 05:13 (one year ago) link
It literally drove Chris Bell crazy that the press gave Chilton ALL the credit (per the Big Star doc) and to have Chilton dismiss that work altogether is like the biggest f*** you to his memory.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 29 July 2023 05:33 (one year ago) link
ouch, did not know that
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 29 July 2023 05:33 (one year ago) link
To be fair, he did the songs, and he reformed the band. I know he could've used the income, but deep down I doubt he was really dismissive and just being his usual cantankerous, difficult self.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 29 July 2023 05:34 (one year ago) link
that scans, yeah
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 29 July 2023 05:35 (one year ago) link
Alex? Cantankerous?
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 07:34 (one year ago) link