Every time I read this thread title Neil Young sings in my head: “Dragon new warm mountain I believe in youOh—ohOh—whoa, I believe in you-oo-ooh”
― war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 12 August 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link
I don't feel like starting a new thread for this, but anyone who digs this album might also like the new one by Florist. Some similarities in vibe, even if Florist is overall quieter.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
Posted this in the indie thread but fans of the Big Thief should also check out the new Florist s/t. More intimate and so maybe reminds me more of The Glow, Pt II but will appeal to the same crowd, I think.
― Indexed, Wednesday, August 10, 2022 5:56 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
From the AOTY 2022 thread
― Evan, Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link
Ha, missed that! But yes.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link
Is this the album that starts with a track called "June 9th Nighttime"? (There seem to be a bunch of different Florists grouped together, and even more than one 2022 S/T by different acts...)
― Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
Ok, this is clearly it...
― Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link
Yep, that's the one. It alternates between short instrumental/environmental tracks and proper songs.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link
(Lot of Elliott Smith in its DNA too.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 August 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
as long as we're talking Florist, their previous two albums - If Blue Could Be Happiness and Emily Alone - are among my favorites of the past several years. same vibes as the new one, but largely without the instrumental interludes.
i don't know what it is about Emily Sprague's writing style that connects with me so deeply, but boy does it. i pay more attention to their lyrics than most.
― alpine static, Thursday, 18 August 2022 18:35 (one year ago) link
Thanks alpine static - need to go back through her whole catalog. Surprised they/she don't have a thread.
― Indexed, Thursday, 18 August 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link
thread of Florist
here you go
― ufo, Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link
Change is really a perfect song, great recording too
― corrs unplugged, Saturday, 26 November 2022 11:29 (one year ago) link
just saw them and what an incredible band and show, only problem was they didn't play an hour longer
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link
adrianne was in a somewhat weird mood and ended "red moon" with an extended jam that turned into an improvised song about thanking the opening act, watching your favourite film in a theatre with popcorn, chocolate, tea and flapjacks, and then ended with a lot of bird noise imitations
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link
"not" was jammed out for 9 minutes, full band "not a lot just forever" was gorgeous, they played two new songs - "free treasure" and "vampire empire". "vampire empire" they started over halfway through so adrianne could play it solo at the very front of the stage without the p.a.
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link
"flower of blood" was just massive live and "spud infinity" was played quite fast
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
oh i wish i'd recorded "free treasure" because it doesn't seem like it's on youtube.
it was a finger-picked one, vaguely similar vein to "from", "terminal paradise" etc., i don't think buck played on it at all and just did backing vocals. first line was "do you wanna go to the river" and chorus included "love without measure, free treasure"
― ufo, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcAeR_PeClg
another new one live
― ufo, Friday, 3 February 2023 23:54 (one year ago) link
overrated group with top pr agents i guess
― CerebralCaustic, Saturday, 4 February 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link
xp Sounds great! I love how the crowd suddenly starts going nuts in the final stretch.
― listened to "Mississippi" one take too long (morrisp), Saturday, 4 February 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwhb6eVuRD4
here's a recording of "free treasure" at last
― ufo, Monday, 13 February 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link
Very nice song. Buck somehow looks younger than ever (as for Max – not sure the color or cut of that garment is particularly flattering on him, but that's his call).
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Monday, 13 February 2023 05:48 (one year ago) link
i hope that second album of material from the dnwmibiy sessions does eventuate this year
― ufo, Monday, 13 February 2023 05:51 (one year ago) link
I was just thinking that – I hope they haven't "moved on"...
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Monday, 13 February 2023 05:57 (one year ago) link
Really like that song. Man they're such a good bunch of weirdos.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 13 February 2023 06:12 (one year ago) link
I've decided this is my least favourite of their albums :( it feels like it's an album of moods rather than songs - ok every track is a song but fully half of them have no chorus, or just a thin sliver of one. Also there's less of a focus on narrative lyrics. And y'know moods are fine, some of my best friends are moods, i just prefer their more traditionally structured stuff, songs with a bit more variety.
― ledge, Thursday, 16 February 2023 10:18 (one year ago) link
Much as I like Adrienne's autobiographical songs, even the deepest wells run shallow after a while. I also find that too much of this sort of thing stops me being able to relate to it after a while. I always liked, on previous albums, when she would go into wider, more fanciful topics like on the title track of UFOF; and that's what's great about songs like Spud Infinity or Sparrow - they might not be "based on a true story" but they are about "things" - philosophy, folk-fantasy - and not just a rhyming word salad, so in many ways this is arguably a more diverse and stronger set of songs on the whole.
I'll agree that about 30% of the material is very much incoherent "moods" though
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2023 13:10 (one year ago) link
how do we know they're autobiographical?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2023 13:25 (one year ago) link
some of my best friends are moods
I will steal this line.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link
:)
STEREOGUM: I know “Mythological Beauty” was inspired by a story from when you were a kid. Are the rest of the songs [on "Capacity] biographical?
LENKER: None of the songs are fictional. I haven’t really figured out how to write a fictional piece yet. Not that fiction doesn’t contain truth, but if there are any fictional elements that surface in the songs, they can still be true. There’s symbolism and metaphor on Capacity meant to describe very real [feelings and events]. It’s maybe a more tangible way of saying what I want to say than it would be to say it literally.
https://www.stereogum.com/1942568/qa-big-thiefs-adrianne-lenker-on-inha
true =/= autobiographical of course.
― ledge, Thursday, 16 February 2023 13:46 (one year ago) link
ugh I hate those questions
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2023 14:02 (one year ago) link
Which songs on here do you consider to be word salad?
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Thursday, 16 February 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
None of them really, I wouldn't say
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link
Oh sorry, I misunderstood then
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Thursday, 16 February 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
Yeah sorry, I meant there don't seem to be any songs that are just 'cool sounding phrases strung together' as far as I can tell. The previous albums featured songs that, if they weren't autobiographical, seemed to tell stories about people and experiences that could well have been about Lenker's lived corporeal world, whereas the scope seems wider on 'Dragon'
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2023 15:10 (one year ago) link
i just prefer their more traditionally structured stuff, songs with a bit more variety.― ledge, Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:18 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― ledge, Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:18 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Stewing over this post. Aren't these sentiments at odds?
― Indexed, Thursday, 16 February 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link
I warmed to Dragon... because it had more sonic variety.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 February 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link
yeah it does have a lot of variety between songs, it's the in-song variety i think is lacking - verse verse verse verse verse just grates a bit for me. in this instance.
― ledge, Thursday, 16 February 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
and some of the verses are scarcely two lines long - sparrow is the one that really kills me, doesn't help that it's followed by little things, which I might quite like in isolation but in the middle of the album it's just more evidence for the prosecution.
― ledge, Thursday, 16 February 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
"sparrow" is pretty easily one of the weakest tracks because it just plods along with that verse over and over but nothing else is really like that
― ufo, Thursday, 16 February 2023 20:46 (one year ago) link
sparrow is still the only one i skip over - i often start with "little things", just because i love that 4 song stretch it kicks off which is unlike the rest of the album, and because i've listened to that first handful of tracks a million times
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
unbelievable
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 16 February 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
i am very sure that someday i'll come back and sparrow will be my favorite :)
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 21:16 (one year ago) link
it would appear that the title of world's undisputed #1 fan of Spud Infinity might potentially be in dispute
― maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 16 February 2023 22:26 (one year ago) link
unfortunately, earlier last summer i was forced to sell the title on ebay to make rent :(
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link
what's it gonna taaake?
― la vie wokisme (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 February 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link
*tears of regret*
― President of Destiny Encounters International (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 February 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link
I love Sparrow. Little Things does nothing for me
― the forces of darkness making making us laugh ourselves into DEATH?? (dog latin), Thursday, 16 February 2023 23:55 (one year ago) link
Co-sign. Was listening in the car the other day, absolutely crumbling to sparrow, then just taken totally out of it by little things. Half this album I find incredible, the other half is by no means bad, but just not for me.
Give me sparrow, no reason, changes, certainty, spud infinite, time escaping forever. Probably just need to invest more time into the other tracks, but they definitely don’t hit at immediately as those listed
― hrep (H.P), Friday, 17 February 2023 00:33 (one year ago) link
Sparrow is totally devastating, hits the same place as “not” does for me. Its lyrical subject matter is our limitedness, and the melody reflects. It’s a song where all the parts are working with each other. It feels very carefully and intentionally constructed for the effect it makes
― hrep (H.P), Friday, 17 February 2023 00:39 (one year ago) link